theguyinallblue Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 i do not trust chinnese govt at all... they are one of the most cunning poeple around this world... saale Yeda ban ke Peda khate hain... i think we must resolve our boundary problems before china becomes super power economically as well as militarily... else we will have to give our land..to them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Its not in China's interest to escalate the problems they have with us. As long as we mind our business , they will mind theirs. They have enough issues to deal with already and simply cant afford a troublesome and huge southern neighnour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rajiv Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Don't worry about their military, unlike their cheap electronics; their hardware won't work when it comes to real battle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predator_05 Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 They are communists by name only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THX_1138 Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 lets not be idiots. let the united states do our dirty work. as long as they are at odds, we have nothing to fear. they are more interested in their taiwan dispute than they are in arunachal pradesh. and lets keep in mind, aint no one ever gonna be able to challenge the united states. war is one thing the united states is absolute, unquestionable, unchallengeable supreme at. one squadron of B-2 bombers and beijing will be experience a mass case of projective diarrhea coupled with cold sweats and the occasional urination in the pants. and i know the haters will bring up iraq, but that different. iraq is a law enforcement problem, where the united states has to be mindful of the civilian casualties. if china was at war, united states would not have to practice any such discretion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dada_rocks Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 lets not be idiots. let the united states do our dirty work. as long as they are at odds, we have nothing to fear. they are more interested in their taiwan dispute than they are in arunachal pradesh. and lets keep in mind, aint no one ever gonna be able to challenge the united states. war is one thing the united states is absolute, unquestionable, unchallengeable supreme at. one squadron of B-2 bombers and beijing will be experience a mass case of projective diarrhea coupled with cold sweats and the occasional urination in the pants. and i know the haters will bring up iraq, but that different. iraq is a law enforcement problem, where the united states has to be mindful of the civilian casualties. if china was at war, united states would not have to practice any such discretion. i say keep minium deterrant which i believe we have and go about your business.... so on the money with that iraq observation.. same holds for israel/hizbollha conflict... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 It is important to keep a minimum deterrent level. We don't have a superpower watching our backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THX_1138 Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 i say keep minium deterrant which i believe we have and go about your business.... so on the money with that iraq observation.. same holds for israel/hizbollha conflict... yep, we need to spend on airforce, missile systems and a develop an H bomb. all three which in the long run also sustain other economies such as space exploration and communication, alternate energy sources and avionics engineering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC1981 Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 lets not be idiots. let the united states do our dirty work. as long as they are at odds, we have nothing to fear. they are more interested in their taiwan dispute than they are in arunachal pradesh. and lets keep in mind, aint no one ever gonna be able to challenge the united states. war is one thing the united states is absolute, unquestionable, unchallengeable supreme at. one squadron of B-2 bombers and beijing will be experience a mass case of projective diarrhea coupled with cold sweats and the occasional urination in the pants. and i know the haters will bring up iraq, but that different. iraq is a law enforcement problem, where the united states has to be mindful of the civilian casualties. if china was at war, united states would not have to practice any such discretion. 1. China may be more interested in Taiwan but their interest in Arunachal Pradesh isn't just posturing. 2. US is unchallenged militarily- for now. it wasn't so 20 years ago and it wont remain 25-30 years from now. 3. A squadron of B-52s wont make it to Beijing, not unless America is willing to lose 10 squadrons of escort-aircrafts 4. The idea that US doesnt have to be mindful about civillian casualties in China if there came a confrontation over Taiwan is ludicrous. Don't see how US will ratioanlize killing Chinese civilians any better than killing Iraqi civilians. 5. If US so much as touches China, China will simply bomb the industrial complexes in South Korea & Japan and then sit back and watch US economy die a very fast death- they will lose a lot too but US will lose far more 6. US modus operandi of attacking overseas nation is fundamentally reliant on its super-carriers fleet. Something which will get blown up to bits within 500 miles of Chinese coastline, thanks to the Chinese acquisition of the SSN-22 'sunburn' anti-ship missile- to which the US has no credible counter. 7. India would be foolish to just sit back and maintain 'minimum credible deterrent' against China because the reality of Nepal and Bhutan joining the Indian union is not very far away- and an event like that is almost certain to trigger a large scale skirmish with China- even though nukes would be unlikely in such a confrontation, Indian army as it stands today will get its a$$ handed to it by the PLA and lose territorry to China. (with yet another newer and more disadvantageous cease-fire line) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 :haha:Don't worry about their military, unlike their cheap electronics; their hardware won't work when it comes to real battle[/quote yes...just keep minimum deterrent and stay away from the chini hindi bhai bullshit.They are as trustworthy as the pakistanis..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguyinallblue Posted July 10, 2007 Author Share Posted July 10, 2007 thats why i am more eager to settle the disputes with china NOW..as they are surrounded by many things.. once the international boundary is decided...to hell with them....then we can play business politics..and economics... can't we make a great wall of india..starting from pakistan border to china border.. saala..saara jhagda hi khatam kar do.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC1981 Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 saala..saara jhagda hi khatam kar do.. jhagda wont be 'khatam' until communism in China falls or the communist party abandons its 'all slant-eyed people are property of China and we will eventually rule over all slant-eyed people' MO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorah_pindu Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 ^^ Chinese nationalists are amongst the dumbest and most vile I have ever encountered. Here is one of the worst lines ever: "The Japanese women whored themselves to American soldiers so that they could breed taller people and defeat the Chinese." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC1981 Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 :haha::haha::haha: Do these Chini nationalists know that Japan was actually the first society in human history to adopt personal firearms (ie, GUNS) in their culture ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 saale Yeda ban ke Peda khate hain... Too much credence to the Chinese. They are not as cunning or extra smart or anything. India lags behind China(or any other country for that matter) because of our ineptness. The stature of China grows not because Chinese are smart or cunning or whatever. No. It grows because China DELIVERS. And therein lies the problem(for us). Ever given a thought as to how China have slowly emerged as a economic powerhouse? Even when it is a Communist country that is surrounded by enemies(USSR, Japan, Taiwan..not to mention USA meddling in the region). Still Chinese have delivered. How? Because they have ORDER even if not law. Companies that go to business in China know what to expect and who to deal with. Quite unlike India where regime changes every 2 years. Yes sometimes Communism can actually be beneficial. Or take the world of sports. China is one of the top 3 sporting power in the world. That itself generates a huge amount of goodwill. An average American who watches Olympics is generally respectful of China. As for India well the less said the better. My point is - Stop worrying about China. Get your own sh$t straight. If we get that right we do not need to worry about Chinese. And if we dont then well we have to worry about Bangladesh even! xxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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