Utalk Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Watching Ishant Bowl I Recall Mohd Sami. Now I am not saying he is as bad as Sami who was the worst bowler to play 25+ tests based on stats. But I cant help but recall Sami watching Ishant bow. He has all the tools to be a very good bowler. He is quick. He beats the bat on regular occasions but comes across some one very unlucky. Same use happen with Sami. Good pace and could swing it. He use to have catches dropped and did bowl some great spells. Ishant needs turn of fortune quickly or he could be history soon with good crop of pacers coming through. Link to comment
amiret Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 in Australia Strike Rate 113 , Avg 65.88 in England Strike Rate 94.6 , Avg 58 in SA Strike Rate 79.4 , Avg 48.1 in NZ Strike Rate 70.7 , Avg 42 Ishant has got better overall figures. But as you can see from these stats he is still crap. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 He is a tool with no tools. Link to comment
f.b.m Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 The angles that he bowls with will make sure that he'll never get too many wickets regardless of how 'well' he bowls. Its not luck. The best that we can hope from his is to keep the runs down when he's bowling well which he does every now and again. Link to comment
DhoniAdorer Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Ponting & Pythagoeran Theorem - Prediction Guys I spent hours and hours on statistics of Ponting from FirstClass to Test matches as a captain, batsman, and non-player. I also came with a binomial, normal, log normal to model runs scored and thus each distribution similar to Possion Distribution. On the distribution, I equated lognormal, produced the formula closer to James's Pythagorean's. There are some deviations but they are within 0.00014 of the sample range of RS and RA. Please be aware, James had it for modelled for baseball but I modified to suit cricketing needs. PontingScore = RS^c/(RS^c + RA^c) where... (google to get James theory what these represent.._ I don't want to post my formula and observation here but you can PM me for details. What does it mean to commoners? In the layman terms, my equation yields that Ponting may outscore Sachin in 5.8 years if he continues to play and Sachin for another 2.3 years. BTW, I sent my finding to Cricket Australia, and am awaiting their reply. Link to comment
Old guy Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Guys I spent hours and hours on statistics of Ponting from FirstClass to Test matches as a captain, batsman, and non-player. I also came with a binomial, normal, log normal to model runs scored and thus each distribution similar to Possion Distribution. On the distribution, I equated lognormal, produced the formula closer to James's Pythagorean's. There are some deviations but they are within 0.00014 of the sample range of RS and RA. Please be aware, James had it for modelled for baseball but I modified to suit cricketing needs. PontingScore = RS^c/(RS^c + RA^c) where... (google to get James theory what these represent.._ I don't want to post my formula and observation here but you can PM me for details. What does it mean to commoners? In the layman terms, my equation yields that Ponting may outscore Sachin in 5.8 years if he continues to play and Sachin for another 2.3 years. BTW, I sent my finding to Cricket Australia, and am awaiting their reply. send me pm but 5.8 years is a long time.. Link to comment
DhoniAdorer Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 @Sabby I agree 5.8 years is too long.. I had to get the schedules, venue, opo players, their records etc of CA and India for the next 2+ years, which itself took me a week., Then, i blindly assumed that Ponting and Sachin will play all the matches with their law of least average sampling that I calculated for their future innings. I'll post my findings here, and if there are any MS/PhD in Stats, please PM me Link to comment
kevinpp24 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 You need to beat the outside to take lot of wickets. If you beat the inside edge there are only a very few options like bowled n lbws but you add his length to that he wont get either and thats exactly what ishant is doing. Link to comment
Old guy Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 ok. im no expert man.. there are many people who are expert go to chit chat section too or maybe nerd section i think they will be able to understand it much better then me Link to comment
Old guy Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 dont care.. he should stop bowling WELL and start picking wickets for change people today again wil blame yadav he is the easy target..i guess we like consistently mediocre more then inconsistently good :P Link to comment
Dhonuts Dhoni Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 India's Fielding. Seriously it's shocking. We all know the stereotype "Indians can't field" etc etc, but that's traditionally been seen as a result of having an older team. Today though, the worst fielders by far have been younger guys like Yadav and Ashwin. Sharma is only 23 and he fields like an 80 year old! It's only compounded when VVS/Sehwag are forced out of the slips (good catchers but terrible ground fielders). Does Indian even have a fielding coach? If so, what the hell is he doing? Link to comment
prinzo Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Kallis better than Sachin, Dravid: Ganguly Adelaide: While commentating during the fourth Test match between Australia and India in Adelaide on Tuesday, former Indian skipper Sourav Ganguly said that he rates Jacques Kallis as the most effective player in Test cricket - even ahead of Sachin Tendulkar, Rahul Dravid and Ricky Ponting, who have scored more runs than Kallis. The discussion was initiated when Ponting became only the third player to score 13,000 Test runs behind India's duo of Tendulkar and Dravid. Ponting, batting in his 275th innings, achieved the landmark when he scored his 81st run with a single. The former Australian skipper then went on to complete his 41st hundred. "Definitely Kallis," replied Ganguly when asked who - among Tendulkar, Dravid, Ponting and Kallis - he thinks has been the most effective in Test cricket . Tendulkar the quickest batsman to reach 13,000 Test runs - currently leads the list of top run-getters in Test cricket with 15,432. Kallis is currently fourth in the list with 12,260 runs in 150 Tests at an average of 57.02. He has also taken 274 wickets, making him statistically the best allrounder ever. Tendulkar also holds the record of most Test centuries with 51. Kallis and Ponting are closest to him with 41 each. Top five Test run-getters: Sachin Tendulkar: 15,432 Rahul Dravid: 13,262 Ricky Ponting: 13,033* Jacques Kallis: 12,260 Brian Lara: 11,953 *Innings still underway Link to comment
amiret Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Team BCCI/India's new logo. :hysterical::hysterical: Link to comment
amiret Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 :hatsoff: to Ganguly for not being afraid to speak the truth. Link to comment
Lord Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 he was talking overall,obviously Kallis with his bowling abilities Link to comment
vamos_rafa Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 How on earth does it matter? It's a team sport and as long as your team is not winning, these comparisions mean nothing. Link to comment
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