CG Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Ditto. Dont think there is any issue with speed guns. All West Indian bowlers clocked faster than English bowlers. 93.4mph is around 150. There is a issue when sa bowlers are clocked lower,but broad surely has lost pace after injury.I do not but it seems they are measuring speed at the point it hits the pitch . Link to comment
SLICKR392 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 They won't choke this time. England would fail while chasing in the second innings Link to comment
rkt.india Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 There is a issue when sa bowlers are clocked lower' date='but broad surely has lost pace after injury.I do not but it seems they are measuring speed at the point it hits the pitch .[/quote'] Look at Anderson, he is bowling his normal pace, faster than Broad and Bresnan, Finn is bowling his usual pace, WI bowlers bowled his usual pace an I think even SA bowlers bowled their usual pace. Steyn does not bowl fast all the time and when he wanted he bowled fast watch his bowling in end overs of 2nd test last day. He did run in and bowled fast then. Link to comment
CG Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Look at Anderson' date=' he is bowling his normal pace, faster than Broad and Bresnan, Finn is bowling his usual pace, WI bowlers bowled his usual pace an I think even SA bowlers bowled their usual pace. Steyn does not bowl fast all the time and when he wanted he bowled fast watch his bowling in end overs of 2nd test last day. He did run in and bowled fast then.[/quote'] No South african bowlers are not low 130k ,Particulalry steyn and morkel .Morkel generally has spells where is 145+ and steyn too . Link to comment
rkt.india Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 No South African bowlers are not low 130k ' date='Particulalry steyn and morkel .Morkel generally has spells where is 145+ and steyn too .[/quote'] Not in tests consistently. Remember India's tour to SA where Steyn bowled in low 130s several times. Steyn does not bowl quick all the time. and then England, it is not easy to go all out all the time because of chilly conditions. Link to comment
CG Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Not in tests consistently. Remember India's tour to SA where Steyn bowled in low 130s several times. Steyn does not bowl quick all the time. and then England' date=' it is not easy to go all out all the time because of chilly conditions.[/quote'] Yes i remember but he had spells where he reached 150 and morkel was quick in every seriies i have seen even in dubai he was 135+ in those conditions Link to comment
ganeshran Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Was Kallis out today? How was the decision reversed? Isnt the benefit of doubt supposed to be given to the umpire? Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 In match scorecard yes, as per laws of the game no. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Yes i remember but he had spells where he reached 150 and morkel was quick in every seriies i have seen even in dubai he was 135+ in those conditions 84.6 Anderson to Steyn, no run, 135.4 kph, full, angled in towards off and then swinging away, thick-edged low towards point 84.5 Anderson to Steyn, no run, 139.7 kph, another bumper, Steyn flinches and jerks out of the way 84.4 Anderson to Steyn, no run, 135.7 kph, pitched up and beaten outside the off stump 84.3 Anderson to Steyn, no run, 140.4 kph, genuine bouncer this time, Steyn winds himself out of the way 83.6 Broad to Steyn, FOUR, 130.3 kph, strays down the leg side, touch short and gloved round the corner for four to fine leg 83.5 Broad to Steyn, no run, 129.6 kph, another snorter, pitching on a length around off and leaving Steyn as he pokes uncertainly at the ball 83.4 Broad to Steyn, 2 runs, 130.3 kph, pitched up outside off, leaving the batsman, who dangles his bat out and squirts another couple through backward point 83.3 Broad to Steyn, no run, 130.3 kph, full and sliding down the leg side, Steyn wears it on his pads trying to glance Look at Anderson clocking 140k here, Broad is still 130K. It means there is not much fault with speed guns. Bowlers get tired after playing so much cricket that is why this is not necessary that they will clock same pace every time they bowl. Link to comment
Crookbond Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 How was the decision reversed? Isnt the benefit of doubt supposed to be given to the umpire? Bring the D word out, are we? :wink2: Link to comment
Laaloo Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Was Kallis out today? JH Kallis c †Prior b Finn 3 9 0 0 33.33 Yes he was Link to comment
Pagalpanti Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I think the replay though not 100% certain was enough to give him out. Why should close decision always go in batsman's favour. And it wasn't 50-50. His thumb did seem to touch the bat while ball made contact. Link to comment
superstar Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 SA fighting? Is it possible SA dressing room has issues because of KP saga? If KP had sent it to Morne. Morne decides to share with AB and Steyn. Steyn outs the information. Morne and AB would naturally be pissed off at Steyn. Wonder if this is affecting their team performance. Seriously some south africans would be feeling guilty now since it looks like they have destroyed someones career. Link to comment
Crookbond Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I think the replay though not 100% certain was enough to give him out. Why should close decision always go in batsman's favour. And it wasn't 50-50. His thumb did seem to touch the bat while ball made contact. Saar, According to the holy book is DRS the decision can be overturned only if there is conclusive evidence. You yourself say that it wasn't 100% certain and hence, he was not out. Link to comment
Crookbond Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Is it possible SA dressing room has issues because of KP saga? If KP had sent it to Morne. Morne decides to share with AB and Steyn. Steyn outs the information. Morne and AB would naturally be pissed off at Steyn. Wonder if this is affecting their team performance. Seriously some south africans would be feeling guilty now since it looks like they have destroyed someones career. Sounds like an Ekta Kapoor serial to me. :giggle: Link to comment
King Khan Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Is it possible SA dressing room has issues because of KP saga? If KP had sent it to Morne. Morne decides to share with AB and Steyn. Steyn outs the information. Morne and AB would naturally be pissed off at Steyn. Wonder if this is affecting their team performance. Seriously some south africans would be feeling guilty now since it looks like they have destroyed someones career. Sounds fair to me anyway for fight over such high profile test on the way. No regration needed at the moment; maybe we will find some spicy truth of this drama later in biographies, but for now its fair & square.:cantstop: Link to comment
ShebbySB Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Broad has surely lost good 1-2 yards of pace & he's denying it.Speed guns are allright,no issues.Anderson is around 130-135ks & faster balls around 138-139ks which is usual.Morkel & Finn is consistently bowling around 140ks.Steyn is mostly around 135ks & faster when he wants to bowl fast.Roach,Best,Edwards,Gabriel were consistently 140+ on these speed guns. Even Rampaul(Slowest among WI seamers barring Sammy) was 135+.................so Broad has lost pace as simple as that.Bresnan is also around 128-132kph & is the slowest English bowler. Still most people assume that he bowls a HEAVY:hehe: ball,maybe he is one:giggle: Link to comment
CSK Fan Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I think the replay though not 100% certain was enough to give him out. Why should close decision always go in batsman's favour. And it wasn't 50-50. His thumb did seem to touch the bat while ball made contact. Err, its nothing to do with favoring batsman, the DRS rule says when in doubt the umpire's decision stays Link to comment
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