Asim Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 ESPNcricinfo can today provide the facts that prove the legality of Saeed Ajmal's bowling action. Ajmal was Man of the Series against England after taking 24 wickets in the three-Test series and playing a prominent role in Pakistan's first Test whitewash against England. Ajmal caused confusion when he gave a TV interview following the series and appeared to indicate he had been given dispensation by the ICC to bowl above the 15-degree tolerance limit. Countless fans have contacted ESPNcricinfo through social networking sites and by email asking us to clarify the situation regarding Ajmal. After a thorough investigation, including extensive discussion with the ICC, these are the facts. Ajmal's action is well within the ICC range of tolerance. While he does bowl with a bend in his arm, it does not straighten more, on average, than about eight degrees. His arm does come through at a bent angle but that is allowed so long as it doesn't straighten beyond the tolerance level. The figure of 23.5 degrees mentioned by Ajmal is the average angle of his arm at the beginning of delivery. The ICC put Ajmal, along with other bowlers, under constant scrutiny and evidence suggests that there has been no significant deterioration in Ajmal's action since he was tested in 2009. Contrary to widespread belief, Ajmal's off-break and quicker ball actually cause his arm to straighten more - though only a fraction more - than his much-debated doosra. The ICC is reluctant to discuss bowling actions in detail because officials fear the subject is too complicated to explain. http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan-v-england-2012/content/current/story/552579.html
Old guy Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 also dossra has less problem :haha: there u go...hope now no one starts another thread on this
Sid Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 cricindo . :winky: :haha: After rankings,Padosis turn to start believing in cricinfo as well
chota_prakash Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 Everything is Well explained in that article so this case should be put to rest. Ajmal deserves praise and recognition of his achievements, not mud slinging.
ganeshran Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 :haha: After rankings,Padosis turn to start believing in cricinfo as well :haha::haha: Till a month back, everything was a kanspiracy by an evil consortium of Mossad, RAW and BCCI. It would be interesting if other bowlers start bowling the doosra and clear the tests in the lab, and come back on chuck on the field. If the ICC doesnt have the balls to call anyone, might as well make use of the loophole.
Turning Point Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 Hi, Guys My first post here, Ajmal chucker or not obviously ICC is to decide but as Murali was called for chucking by on field umpire (Daryll Heir) on numerous occasions Ajmal got away with it.So its safe to assume that he is good in umpires view aswell, controversial but a great player to watch and ahumble person indeed.
Utalk Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 :haha::haha: Till a month back, everything was a kanspiracy by an evil consortium of Mossad, RAW and BCCI. It would be interesting if other bowlers start bowling the doosra and clear the tests in the lab, and come back on chuck on the field. If the ICC doesnt have the balls to call anyone, might as well make use of the loophole. Ganeshran that's a seriously poor post. No not all of us think everything is a RAW or Mosad concipricy. Vast majority of fans know and acknowledge that our players and management were responsible for the mess of last few years. There are plenty of idiots who come out with rubbish all the time but they are everywhere not just Pakistan. Now if I judge or make sweeping statements about ICF or Indians based on views of sarkar or manny then I will be doing a huge disservice to vast majority of ppl here.
chota_prakash Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 Guys listen to Geroge Dobell regarding the action from 16 mins onwards. After hearing this and the evidence this guy gathers regarding when Ajmal was called he is well within the limits and perfectly legal. If this does not convince people nothing will. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/current/video_audio/552578.html
Zero_Unit Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 The men was cleared by ICC so move on people. After all haters gonna hate always!
1983-2011 Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 The facts about Saeed Ajmal's action ESPNcricinfo can today provide the facts that prove the legality of Saeed Ajmal's bowling action. Ajmal was Man of the Series against England after taking 24 wickets in the three-Test series and playing a prominent role in Pakistan's first Test whitewash against England. Ajmal caused confusion when he gave a TV interview following the series and appeared to indicate he had been given dispensation by the ICC to bowl above the 15-degree tolerance limit. Countless fans have contacted ESPNcricinfo through social networking sites and by email asking us to clarify the situation regarding Ajmal. After a thorough investigation, including extensive discussion with the ICC, these are the facts. Ajmal's action is well within the ICC range of tolerance. While he does bowl with a bend in his arm, it does not straighten more, on average, than about eight degrees. His arm does come through at a bent angle but that is allowed so long as it doesn't straighten beyond the tolerance level. The figure of 23.5 degrees mentioned by Ajmal is the average angle of his arm at the beginning of delivery. The ICC put Ajmal, along with other bowlers, under constant scrutiny and evidence suggests that there has been no significant deterioration in Ajmal's action since he was tested in 2009. Contrary to widespread belief, Ajmal's off-break and quicker ball actually cause his arm to straighten more - though only a fraction more - than his much-debated doosra. The ICC is reluctant to discuss bowling actions in detail because officials fear the subject is too complicated to explain. http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan-v-england-2012/content/current/story/552579.html http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/story/552586.html
sumvell Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 enjoy his bowling......who knows when we'll see another quality spinner...
ganeshran Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Ganeshran that's a seriously poor post. No not all of us think everything is a RAW or Mosad concipricy. Vast majority of fans know and acknowledge that our players and management were responsible for the mess of last few years. There are plenty of idiots who come out with rubbish all the time but they are everywhere not just Pakistan. Now if I judge or make sweeping statements about ICF or Indians based on views of sarkar or manny then I will be doing a huge disservice to vast majority of ppl here. UTalk, I wasnt generalizing everyone in Pakistan. I just meant the ones who buy into the conspiracy theories and there are quite a few. Of course there are tons of idiots in India too.
rabinjackman Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 i have always maintained that Ajmal is the best spinner in the world. I just donot understand where he was all these years. He is already 34, not many years to enjoy his bowling
achilles Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 I hope our good friends in the English media report this story
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