gattaca Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 ^^ Can someone also please ask DM india's growth, Rupee tanking as well ? Yes this is related since we talking about growth.
dial_100 Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 Oh by the way. I did my entire research on the truth behind Gujarat's HDIs. The criticism is NOT unreasonable. Indeed Gujarat is behind some of the comparable states in these regards. Moreover, annoucing 42% of budget on Social sector Modi has himself accepted that it needs major major attention. As some of you have rightly said that by showing other states conditions does not change the fact that Gujarat needs special program to bring that change about. I think from my side, its a done deal. Others can continue arguing for and against. I rest my case at least on this part.
bulbul Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 Modi US visa row: Yechury in a spot, says he didn't sign any letter New Delhi: The controversy over Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi's US visa has got more twists and turns. CPI(M) leader Sitaram Yechury now seems to find himself in a spot over his signature in the letter written by 65 MPs to US President Barack Obama against granting visa to Modi. Yechury has been denying writing any letter to Obama while MPs say he must have forgotten that he signed it. Yechury, whose name figures at number 9 on the letter written in late 2012, on Tuesday had refuted claims that he was one of the MPs who has reached out to Obama to halt Modi's visit. He had said, "I would be the last person to write to the US Administration and to do something like this. We don't want anyone to interfere in the internal affairs of the country. Secondly, it is up to the US government to decide on giving visa." Communists not against Modi going to US :hmmm: The Congress, too, has washed its hands off the Modi visa controversy saying it does not make a difference to them whether or not Modi is granted a US Visa. Party General Secretary Digvijaya Singh said, "We have nothing to do with it. It is up to the US government to issue visa to Modi How many votes they may lose now :hmmmm: http://ibnlive.in.com/news/modi-us-visa-row-yechury-in-a-spot-says-he-didnt-sign-any-letter/409002-37-64.html
Crookbond Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 65/790 :giggle: Lol @ insecurity of Indian Muslim politicians.This is the funniest thing i have read in recent times :hysterical: Communists not against Modi going to US :hmmm: How many votes they may lose now :hmmmm: http://ibnlive.in.com/news/modi-us-visa-row-yechury-in-a-spot-says-he-didnt-sign-any-letter/409002-37-64.html Everyone against Modi - pehle Muslim politicians aur ab koi aur. Sirf ek Modi bechaara Also LOL at interpretation of Yechury statement.
bulbul Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 Everyone against Modi - pehle Muslim politicians aur ab koi aur. Sirf ek Modi bechaara Also LOL at interpretation of Yechury statement. lol @ your interpretation of my interpretation.
bulbul Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 Subject: Human rights violations in the Indian State of Gujarat and the US policy on Chief Minister Narendra Modi Dear Mr. President, We, the undersigned members of India's Parliament, are writing to express our concern about a possible change in US policy with respect to Mr. Narendra Modi, Chief Minister of the Indian State of Gujarat. As you may know, the United States has barred Mr. Modi from entering the country, under Section 212 (a) (2) (g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, that makes any foreign government official who "was responsible for or directly carried out, at any time, particularly severe violations of religious freedom" ineligible for a visa. As you may recall, in 2002, Mr. Modi presided over one of the worst sectarian massacres in the history of independent India, which led to the killing of over 2,000 people, the rape of hundreds of women and the displacement of over 150,000 people. In the wake of these colossal and horrendous crimes against humanity, several governments across the world decided to boycott Mr. Modi and his state administration. In March of 2005 and again in June of 2008, a number of Congresspersons in the United States wrote to then - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to express their profound concern over a possible visit to the US by Mr. Narendra Modi. Based on these concerns, and the recommendation of the United States Commission for International Religious Freedom (USCIRF), the State Department has rightly kept in place the ban on Mr. Modi's entry to the US. However, there are reports that the State Department could be considering a change in this longstanding policy with respect to Mr. Modi's US visa. These reports are all the more disconcerting, in the context of the statement made by US Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asia Robert Blake in which he is reported to have indicated that Mr. Modi was free to apply for another visa. We wish to respectfully urge you to maintain the current policy of denying Mr. Modi a visa to the United States. Given that legal cases against the culprits including many senior officials in Mr. Modi's administration are still pending in the court of law, any revoking of the ban at this juncture would be seen as a dismissal of the issues concerning Mr. Modi's role in the horrific massacres of 2002. It would legitimize Mr. Modi's human rights violations and seriously impact the nature of US-India relations by sending a message that the United States values economic interests over and above the universal values of human rights and justice. Mr. Modi's personal complicity in the pogrom has been documented by national NGOs including India's own National Human Rights Commission (NHRC), international human rights organizations as well as investigative journalists. The recent conviction of a sitting member of the Gujarat Legislative Assembly, Maya Kodnani of the BJP, is actually a damning indictment of the Modi administration, and proof that the pogrom was planned and executed at the highest levels of the state government. Mr. Modi has not only obstructed the course of justice, he has also failed to provide rehabilitation to the survivors of whom 16,000 continue to live in refugee colonies lacking basic amenities. Of the hundreds of women raped in 2002, there have been convictions in only two cases. His administration has even ignored a court order to restore the places of worship that were attacked and destroyed during the pogrom of 2002. Mr. Modi's administration has curtailed religious freedom by legislating a ban on religious conversion. Unfortunately, Mr. Modi's relentless efforts at rehabilitating his own image, including a campaign by his PR firm, APCO Worldwide have created an illusion of Gujarat as a prosperous, progressive state. The reality on the ground could not be further from the truth. Not much has changed in the last 10 years since those mass killings took place in Gujarat. Barring a handful of convictions, the hundreds of perpetrators who roamed the streets of Gujarat in February and March of 2002, killing, raping and destroying property continue to evade the law. Even these few convictions have been obtained through the sheer tenacity of NGOs and human rights activists in the face of harassment and obstruction of justice by Mr. Modi's administration. The viciousness and barbarism that marked the Gujarat pogrom of 2002 including the burning alive of hundreds of people, and brutal sexual violence against women, make the Gujarat riots among the worst human rights violations in recent history. In this regard, we, as human beings and as Members of India's Parliament, respectfully urge you to direct the State Department to maintain the ban on Mr. Narendra Modi's US visa. Such a ban would be consistent with US law and the shared values of the United States and India, and represent a formidable defense of the principles of human rights. Maintaining the longstanding US policy on Mr. Narendra Modi's visa is important for the ongoing struggle for justice in Gujarat. As India and the United States address the challenges facing our societies, the time to come together on issues of human rights and justice could not have been more opportune. We sincerely urge you to fulfill our request and stand in solidarity with the survivors, human rights activists and all those who value justice and freedom of religion. Sincerely Pathetic,third class mentality people who beg & whine with another country regarding internal matter of our country.
bulbul Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 The controversy over MPs' letter to US President Barack Obama against a visa to Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi is growing big with allegations of forged signatures. While CPM MP Sitaram Yechury has denied signing the letter saying it appears to be a cut-paste job, Independent MP Mohammed Adeeb has now said that he will take Yechury to court if he thinks he was cheated. Why a CPM MP lie , a lie which may help Modi :dontknow: Speaking to CNN-IBN, Adeeb said, "I am shocked, I don't believe that a person like Yechury can say like this. I have his signature. His name is on number 9. How can I paste it? I am a member of Parliament and I cannot do such a thing. If he thinks I have cheated him, I will take him to court." WoW , if you became MP you become a certified saint , awesome logic. http://ibnlive.in.com/news/modi-us-visa-letter-yechury-calls-it-a-cutpaste-job-mp-adeeb-fumes/409061-37-64.html
bulbul Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 Any one can tell me how Modi traveling or getting Visa from US affect Indian muslim's ?
ravishingravi Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 Pathetic' date='third class mentality people who beg & whine with another country regarding internal matter of our country.[/quote'] True. But isn't Rajnath begging for US approval.
bulbul Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 True. But isn't Rajnath begging for US approval. Yeah , but he may be asking because Modi always invited by Gujjus from US but can't attend due to Visa issue.Also asking him Visa is not same as discussing internal matters with some other country. But how can some one ask denial of visa when its not going to give them any benefit :dontknow: Also where are these MP's when EU accept him?
Crookbond Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 Yeah ' date=' [b']but he may be asking because Modi always invited by Gujjus from US but can't attend due to Visa issue.Also asking him Visa is not same as discussing internal matters with some other country. But how can some one ask denial of visa when its not going to give them any benefit :dontknow: Also where are these MP's when EU accept him? Why will someone ask for a visa when it would not benefit him? :winky:
bulbul Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 Why will someone ask for a visa when it would not benefit him? :winky: Who told it won't? Tell me how it will benefit Indian Muslim's if US denied Visa ? Do you agree MP's discussing about our internal matters with US?
ravishingravi Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 Yeah , but he may be asking because Modi always invited by Gujjus from US but can't attend due to Visa issue.Also asking him Visa is not same as discussing internal matters with some other country. But how can some one ask denial of visa when its not going to give them any benefit :dontknow: Also where are these MP's when EU accept him? There is no justifying what MPs are doing. It shows colonial mindset is well and truly entrenched in our psyche. The *****us can't get an FIR against the man, but somehow want US to take a position without any evidence on the ground. But as I said, Rajnath should not also be asking the US to issue the visa.
asterix Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 Yeah ' date=' but he may be asking because [b']Modi always invited by Gujjus from US but can't attend due to Visa issue.Also asking him Visa is not same as discussing internal matters with some other country. But how can some one ask denial of visa when its not going to give them any benefit :dontknow: Also where are these MP's when EU accept him? What's the hurry? :giggle: Win the elections, become a PM, USA will automatically give Diplomatic VISA... :cantstop: Sala elction time coming and Modi has this urgency to meet US Gujjus..:cantstop: Even he'll :cantstop: at your logic... DumDum, you are trying hard.. It was stupid of Rajnath to ask Visa for Modi and rake the English language issue... People are laughing at these stupid issues. I mean you can raise Economic/Investement/Migratory Work VISA issues, but being stupid, you can't help but keep on Modi hype and focus on Modi... I mean is Modi Visa such an important issue for chewtiya BJP? :WTF:
Crookbond Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 Who told it won't? Tell me how it will benefit Indian Muslim's if US denied Visa ? Do you agree MP's discussing about our internal matters with US? So, who said it won't benefit Modi detractors? "Indian Muslims" The majority of the political leaders who have supposedly signed the letter are not Muslims. The letter states nothing about "Indian Muslims"; as a matter of fact - there is no word Muslim in the entire text of the letter. Discussion of internal matters? We have allowed US to snoop into our systems freely. The "discussion" of such matters which US already knows of is hardly a matter of any concern. For a moment, even if I think of it as a "concern" what is more "concerning" is the leader of a major political party begging for via approval of a PM candidate.
asterix Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 Who sent that stupid Rajnath to US, at this time? Don't they have anything better to do? :cantstop:
bulbul Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 So' date=' who said it won't benefit Modi detractors? [/quote'] How? - Thsi is what written in that letter. How denying Visa will help in rehabiliation,justice etc? Lead by a Muslim MP - May be some Sikh MP's should send a letter to US and ask to involve in giving justice to '84 riots.
bulbul Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 The controversy over 65 Members of Parliament signing letter urging US President Barack Obama not to issue Gujarat Chief Minister and BJP poll panel chief Narendra Modi a visa has taken a new turn on Wednesday with nine MPs denying signing any letter. The MPs who have denied signing the anti-Modi letter include five Congress leaders. Two of the Congress MPs also said they do not remember signing the letter. So many liars The Centre has also said it is not right for anyone to involve a third country in domestic issues. "It is not right for anyone to ask like this. It's for the US to decide. We should solve our issues at home," said Preneet Kaur, Minister of State for External Affairs :hmmm:
bulbul Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 There is no justifying what MPs are doing. It shows colonial mindset is well and truly entrenched in our psyche. The *****us can't get an FIR against the man, but somehow want US to take a position without any evidence on the ground. But as I said, Rajnath should not also be asking the US to issue the visa. Who is defending him?
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