randomGuy Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Yeah but that's little too much to expect from politician. Kejriwal's history is just as glorious esp the early days of adhoc allegations. People do that to pander to masses. But here the occasion warranted a different avatar I haven't heard tht speech of modi. Did he say smthing on war memorial too, coz i have seen following meme recently - https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/1618663_189134451297772_357726453_n.jpg
seedhi Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Right. he was referring to the Chandragupta of Gupta dynasty. Thnx for this. I wasn't aware, my bad. “If we remember the Gyan Yug, we are reminded of Taxa-shila(:cantstop:) and Nalanda, Yeh mera bihar hai bhaiyon" - In context of Bihar, whats the need to mention Taxa-shila...sorry, taxila? Out of the two most famous universities of ancient India, one is in Bihar. That is what he meant. And the actual name is Takshashila which was shortened to Taxila by the linguistically challenged British.
randomGuy Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Out of the two most famous universities of ancient India' date=' one is in Bihar. That is what he meant. [/quote'] Doesn't look 100% convincing but I'll give him benefit of doubt. Pretty good. Just checked that too. Even on Alexander never crossing Ganges due to Nanda empire, Modi is correct. Looks like a lot of lies have been planted in/by media by opponents of Modi regarding tht speech.
ganeshran Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Didn't Modi lie that Nehru didn't attend Sardar Patel's funeral? Something which was carried verbatim by national dailies and then later debunked.
seedhi Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Didn't Modi lie that Nehru didn't attend Sardar Patel's funeral? Something which was carried verbatim by national dailies and then later debunked.A Gujarati daily published that Modi had said this, but later the daily retracted its story and said that no such thing was said by Modi. See this : http://www.niticentral.com/2013/11/06/ill-read-critics-of-modi-using-lies-to-belittle-him-154867.html
ganeshran Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 A Gujarati daily published that Modi had said this, but later the daily retracted its story and said that no such thing was said by Modi. See this : http://www.niticentral.com/2013/11/06/ill-read-critics-of-modi-using-lies-to-belittle-him-154867.html That clarification came after Congress provided video evidence that Nehru did indeed attend Patel's funeral. Newspaper first carried the direct quote by Modi.
seedhi Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 That clarification came after Congress provided video evidence that Nehru did indeed attend Patel's funeral. Newspaper first carried the direct quote by Modi.And later retracted their story. They had made up the quote.
ganeshran Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 And later retracted their story. They had made up the quote. Its a tad too convenient that the newspaper retracts a direct quote after it has been proven to be false, and in the process becomes a scapegoat in the fiasco.
diga Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Firstpost @firstpostin NCP's Praful Patel says allegations of Modi's involvement in 2002 riots should be laid to rest - CNN-IBN The Times They Are a-Changin
diga Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Its a tad too convenient that the newspaper retracts a direct quote after it has been proven to be false' date=' and in the process becomes a scapegoat in the fiasco.[/quote'] scapegoat.. thats too strong a word to use. The newspaper editor would have fully known the consequences of targeting either Modi or Nehru-Gandhi family
ganeshran Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 scapegoat.. thats too strong a word to use. The newspaper editor would have fully known the consequences of targeting either Modi or Nehru-Gandhi family He did not target anyone. There wasnt even a context around the quote which could be misinterpreted. It was a direct quote saying that Nehru did not attend Patel's funeral. And as soon as there was video and historical evidence which rubbished the claim, Modi claimed to have been "misquoted" and the newspaper conveniently retracted the story.
ganeshran Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 Modi authoritarian, bully, Ramachandra Guha says http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Modi-authoritarian-bully-Ramachandra-Guha-says/articleshow/29568194.cms KOLKATA: The BJP's prime ministerial candidate Narendra Modi is a "bully" and an "absolute authoritarian", historian Ramchandra Guha said on Wednesday. Guha said the Gujarat chief minister could "damage" the Indian democracy, but not "destroy" it. "He is a bully and a bigot, and I detest him. Unlike others, I don't believe he will change, because at 62 you cannot have a personality transformation," Guha said at a session at the Kolkata literary meet. Alleging that intellectual freedom was suppressed in Gujarat, Guha hoped the country would not succumb to "fascism" if the Bharatiya Janata Party ( BJP) leader comes to power. "If you look at his behaviour in Gujarat, where intellectual freedom is suppressed, when he talks he says 'Main, mujhe, mera, maine' (I, me and myself), he takes credit for everything," Guha noted. "He is an absolute authoritarian, a bully, indulges only in 'I, me and myself', but he can only damage the Indian democracy but cannot destroy it." "Unlike many others, I have a greater hope that fascism will not happen if he comes to power. Unlike the Emergency period, there are non-BJP governments in many states across the country," he said. Echoing Guha, veteran journalist Mark Tully said anyone who aspired to take absolute power in the country will fall flat on his face. "I have much faith in democracy and I think, without going into elaborate diagnosis, there will be restraints on him (Modi). If he takes things too far, there will be upsets, protests," Tully said. "I don't want to say whether I want to see him or not see him as the prime minister, but I don't think it will be the disaster that some people believe," said Tully. "As regards to be an authoritarian, if he (Modi) continues to be one, things will go wrong for him. The emergence and flourishing of Indian democracy after the Emergency is a proof of its strength," Tully said. "Anyone who tries to take absolute power in this country will fall flat on his face," he said, describing Indira Gandhi's regime of 1975 as the worst phase of Indian democracy. Speaking on the topic "How elections have changed between 1951 and 2014", Guha and Tully expressed concern over the prevalence of animosity and suspicion among rival political parties and rued the lack of argumentative politics. "It is sad to see political leaders taking rigid stands and shouting and fighting on TV. There is no dialogue, no arguments, it is sad to see Parliament getting disrupted more often than it is in session," Tully said, adding that advent of such disruptions happened from the days of Emergency. "However, the good thing about India is that the opposition always accepts the popular mandate. Many a country have gone into crisis when the opposition has refused to accept defeat and questioned the popular mandate," he said. Tully, who has been covering elections in India since 1967, said rural voters are influenced by only two things. "We journalists may talk about Left wing and right wing politics and other issues, but rural voters are guided by only two factors - 'ye mera aadmi hai' (the candidate is my man) and 'ye mera kaam karega' (he will do my job)," Tully said.
Sachin=GOD Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 Modi authoritarian' date= bully, Ramachandra Guha says http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Modi-authoritarian-bully-Ramachandra-Guha-says/articleshow/29568194.cms sort of what I've been saying for a long time...
gattaca Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 sort of what I've been saying for a long time... India needs someone to get the heads of people straight. Read the Korean Economy history. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_on_the_Han_River
Yoda-esque Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 Guha explains that Modi is incapable of reconciling. 'I will tell you a story. When we won the cricket World Cup, there were three Gujarati Muslims in the team, he was advised to go to the airport and garland them. If he had gone and garlanded them at the airport, it would have been an apology for 2002 . But he didn't do that. He said, come to my bungalow, I will give you three plots.*Modi doesn't understand reconciliation, and what it means to reach out is beyond his understanding. Yeah Guha right!
seedhi Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 Guha explains that Modi is incapable of reconciling. 'I will tell you a story. When we won the cricket World Cup, there were three Gujarati Muslims in the team, he was advised to go to the airport and garland them. If he had gone and garlanded them at the airport, it would have been an apology for 2002 . But he didn't do that. He said, come to my bungalow, I will give you three plots.*Modi doesn't understand reconciliation, and what it means to reach out is beyond his understanding. Yeah Guha right!What a pathetic "anecdote". So the CM of state is supposed to garland three cricketers of the Indian team at the airport ? And this would have been an "apology" for the riots ? This can only make sense to a person suffering from a complete lack of perspective and rational thinking.
Yoda-esque Posted January 30, 2014 Posted January 30, 2014 What a pathetic "anecdote". So the CM of state is supposed to garland three cricketers of the Indian team at the airport ? And this would have been an "apology" for the riots ? This can only make sense to a person suffering from a complete lack of perspective and rational thinking. His name is Guha for a reason
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