bulbul Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 BJP on Saturday cancelled the membership of former JD(U) leader Sabir Ali, who had joined the party on Friday. . :hatsoff: for listening to the opinions of supporters :hatsoff:
ravishingravi Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 U-turns continue as the party and Modi can't even decide who should be a member. AAP ko secular allergy ho gayi acahanak U-turns se.
urbestfriend Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 Very impressive speech of Modi coming in news X, gives better insight of Modi's early days and how he worked around the red tape etc. Somewhat narcissistic though. Although it is he has taken easier route of giving speech instead of facing an interview, with Madhu kishwar.
Texan Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 AAP faithfuls talking about U-turns always makes me :hysterical:
Raghav_12 Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 This is epic pwnage. Modi caught red-handed making false stats. y-4lpbMSKYk
bulbul Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 ^ Looks like no news on AAP....fanboi's are pulling out old news :hysterical:
Raghav_12 Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 ^ Looks like no news on AAP....fanboi's are pulling out old news :hysterical: No. I don't search news to post on ICF. I happened to hit on this video in one of the youtube ad. Couldn't resist posting it here because of it's epicness.
urbestfriend Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 I was listening to Modi's speech , he seems to be someone who is narcissistic which is not a bad thing for leader as long as it is used in right direction, and he seems to have a very good memory coupled with attention for details, and it seems he controlled bureaucracy through his favorite officers. But it wouldn't be easy for him in centrre if BJP gets lesser no of seats and has to manage other allies.
urbestfriend Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 ^ Looks like no news on AAP....fanboi's are pulling out old news :hysterical: At least AAP fanobios are not creating a new thread like BJP cyber army of ICF is going for every news about AAP, old or new , spending days to find tweets which are years old etc:hysterical:
ravishingravi Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 ^maybe like selective memory, there is selective blindness.
bulbul Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 At least AAP fanobios are not creating a new thread like BJP cyber army of ICF is going for every news about AAP' date=' old or new , spending days to find tweets which are years old etc:hysterical:[/quote'] Plz check in ICF who is creating more threads now :cantstop:
Sachin=GOD Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 Huntsmen’s Chorus The strife in the BJP is actually a Modi-Rajnath power grab NEENA VYAS The year was 1996. The BJP had emerged as the biggest party after a heated general election. Cause for celebration, although its government lasted just 13 days. But, at a function in Gujarat to felicitate Atal Behari Vajpayee and L.K Advani, microphones, chairs, other objects flew as leaders and workers of the party’s fractious Guj*arat unit came to blows. The venerable state minister Atmaram Patel was beaten, his dhoti was stripped and shredded, and pieces were carried away by party workers as trophies. A cowering Patel covered his modesty with a party banner. At odds with CM Keshubhai Patel, Narendra Modi, who was ‘exiled’ from Gujarat by the BJP, was holding forth at the party’s Delhi headquarters. He could barely contain his glee when the discussion turned to the free-for-all event. “You may be shocked,” Modi volunteered, “but in Gujarat it is a ‘parampara’ (tradition) that when old people mis*behave, they are stripped of their dhotis.” Fast forward to 2014, and understand that some old BJP men are being tre*ated to an old Gujarati ‘parampara’. Why the controversy over a ticket for patriarch and proud Ram rath yatri Advani? Why the question of his contesting from Bhopal when he has been representing Gandhinagar? Party insiders believe that he, along with loyalist Sushma Swaraj, have a Plan B in place in the event of the BJP winning less than 180 seats—that is, less than what the party bagged in 1998 and again in 1999. Advani and Modi fell out a long time ago. It was feared that Modi could even sabotage his prospects from Gandhinagar. If the BJP were to get less than 180 seats, expect another factional war in the party. In that scenario, Advani could himself emerge as choice for PM or propose Swaraj with the solid backing of Madhya Pradesh CM Shivraj Singh Chouhan, who is hoping to bring the largest contingent of BJP MPs from any state to the next Lok Sabha. Swaraj already has the Vidisha constituency in Madhya Pradesh; Advani from Bhopal would have strengthened Plan B. It is no secret that on their own hardly anyone from among the top ten or twelve BJP leaders (Arun Jaitley may be an exception) would have zeroed in on Modi as the party’s prime ministerial candidate, knowing his authoritarian ways. The Gujarat story is well-known, where Modi sidelined all possible rivals who could have replaced him. Who, after all, would like to see Modi emerge as the only hero? Mind you, the RSS is using Modi as a Hindutva icon, not as some kind of development man who will make India shine. It is precisely because of the 2002 riots in Gujarat that he has become the chosen one. Did he not show how to put the minorities in their place? The Hindutva experiment in Gujarat’s laboratory was successful. In the interest of moving Hindutva forward, the RSS has decided to ignore that in Gujarat Modi had rendered the RSS, the VHP, the Bajrang Dal and its other outfits powerless. As if the Advani kerfuffle wasn’t enough, Varanasi stalwart Murli Manohar Joshi being ordered to make way for ‘Har Har Modi’, Lalji Tandon being sent packing as Rajnath Singh wanted nothing less than the Lucknow seat and Jaswant Singh being denied the ticket for Barmer have all served to expose the faultlines. Ticket distribution in all parties is the cause for heartburn, even rebellion. For every candidate selected, three or four claimants are disappointed. The situation becomes more acute in a party expected to emerge winner. To that extent, the BJP’s woes were expected. What was different was that senior leaders, who get to contest from where they wish to, were at the receiving end of decisions taken or not taken by the central election committee. Only two voices mattered: that of Rajnath Singh and Modi. They grabbed what they wanted and let the Devil take the hindmost. In this scenario, what could second-rung leaders expect? Fiery sanyasin Uma Bharati has been sent off to contest from Jhansi, when she would have preferred Bhopal. The party could not annoy CM Shivraj Singh Chouhan, who did not want her in his face and on his turf. The denial of ticket to seven-time MP Harin Pathak from Ahmedabad East was a story foretold. Even in 2009, Modi wanted to cut him out, but Rajnath Singh had intervened. His fault: he is an Advani loyalist. Pathak should count himself lucky. Remember his namesake Haren Pandya? He had aud*aciously refused to vacate his Ellisbridge assembly seat for Modi in 2001. Denied a ticket in 2002, he was a dead man by March 2003, shot mysteriously while on a morning walk. Longtime BJP watcher Neena Vyas is a former associate editor of The Hindu http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?289987
Sachin=GOD Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 Disgruntled BJP cadre could hamper dream win When Amit Shah, Narendra Modi's trusted lieutenant and the BJP in-charge of Uttar Pradesh, held a meeting at the party office in Lucknow, early February, disgruntled BJP cadre protested outside. When Shah came out and met them, it seemed everything fell in line, at least for the time being. The damage control exercise by Shah, however, went haywire after the BJP announced candidates for the Lok Sabha seats. In the wake of the ongoing revolt, the saffron dream of winning more than 40 parliamentary seats in UP looks elusive. The state sends 80 MPs to the Lok Sabha. The BJP, this year, has fielded 23 contestants who have defected from other parties and their loyalty to the party is questionable. This has catalysed discontent among the party leaders. The recent revolt by ex-MP and senior member of the Ram Janmabhoomi Nyas, Dr Ram Vilas Vedanti, is an indication of a latent storm that may shake the BJP. Vedanti has given an ultimatum to the party that if he is not fielded this time, he will contest as an independent. “The party has given tickets to those who have been constantly spewing venom against sants and seers. Even those who are accused of heinous crimes like rape have succeeded in securing party ticket, but it has ignored its genuine leaders,” said Vedanti. Before BJP president Rajnath Singh was declared the BJP candidate from Lucknow, sitting MP Lalji Tandon had expressed his displeasure at the move. Senior leader M.M. Joshi, too, did not want to quit the Varanasi parliamentary seat for Modi and migrate to Kanpur. “Both Joshi and Tandon, who are very senior leaders in the party, ultimately yielded because of strong pressure from the Sangh,” said a Sangh member dealing with UP affairs. Keshari Nath Tripathi, the party's former state president who has political roots in eastern UP district Deoria, was sore that he was denied a ticket, which went to another senior leader Kalraj Mishra. Soon after the party announced the list of its candidates, many eastern UP districts saw widespread protests by the BJP workers. The BJP state president Laxmikant Bajpai brushed aside reports of infighting and said that “under the aegis of Amit Shah, all the BJP leaders in the state are united and want to see Modi as prime minister”. But Bajpai's claim is far from reality. In fact, many party leaders are not happy with Shah's modus operandi. According to them, Shah did not include them in the decision-making process. Also, the inclusion of leaders like Jagdambika Pal from the Congress and Kirti Vardhan Singh alias Raja Bhaiya from the Samajwadi Party and giving them more importance than their own cadre, too, did not go down well within the party. Though there is a perceptible Modi and pro-BJP wave in UP, as the polls approach, discordant notes in the party may upset the party's electoral cart. Political analysts now predict a nation-wide loss of around 20 seats. Though Rajnath Singh himself has taken charge of damage control, only poll results will tell if the dissent harmed the party. http://week.manoramaonline.com/cgi-bin/mmonline.dll/portal/ep/theWeekContent.do?programId=1073755754&contentId=16480356
Sachin=GOD Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 BJP faces 'veteran headache' in Uttar Pradesh Lucknow: Two senior BJP leaders in Uttar Pradesh have revolted after being denied ticket to contest the Lok Sabha polls. Anger is simmering among some other veterans too but they are silent for now. Ram Vilas Vedanti, a seer and party MP in 1996-97 and 1998-99, Tuesday said he had given a 48-hour deadline to the national leadership to revoke the candidature of Lallu Singh in Faizabad and field him instead. The Faizabad parliamentary seat includes Ayodhya, where the BJP and its allied groups hope to build a grand temple for Hindu god Rama at the site of the demolished Babri mosque. "I have the blessings of the (Hindu) saints and I will take a final decision after two days on whether to contest as an independent or not," Vedanti told IANS. He said he was not against BJP's prime ministerial candidate Narendra Modi and alleged that some in the "saffron fold" were conspiring to prevent the Gujarat chief minister from making it to the top post. Swamy Chinmayanand, another BJP leader and a former union minister of state in the Atal Bihari Vajpayee government, is also upset after being sidelined in the party. A former MP from Jaunpur, he wanted to contest the 2014 Lok Sabha election too. But the Bharatiya Janata Party refused to oblige him. Chinmayanand too has served a two-day deadline to BJP president Rajnath Singh. He said that in case he was not fielded in Jaunpur, he will contest as an independent. Both underlined that if they win as independents, they will support Modi as the prime minister. Outgoing Lucknow MP and former Uttar Pradesh urban development minister Lalji Tandon, who wanted to contest from Lucknow again, has been forced to give way to party president Rajnath Singh, now the BJP candidate in the city. A confidant of Atal Bihari Vajpayee when he was prime minister, Tandon protested initially but fell in line soon and is now canvassing for Rajnath Singh. Veterans like Surya Pratap Shahi, Om Prakash Singh and Kesharinath Tripathi have also been sidelined. While Surya Pratap Shahi, the state party president in the 2012 assembly polls, sought ticket for himself from Deoria, Lucknow legislator Kalraj Mishra has been picked for the seat. He was in tears when the announcement was made. Om Prakash Singh, a powerful OBC face of the party in the 90's, had pitched for a ticket for his son Anurag Singh from Mirzapur. But his plea was not accepted. Instead, Apna Dal, a BJP ally, has been allowed to field Anupriya Patel as the Apna Dal-BJP candidate. Kesharinath Tripathi, a former speaker in the Uttar Pradesh assembly, has also been edged out. He wanted ticket for himself from Allahabad. But the party chose former mayor Shyama Charan Gupta, a Samajwadi Party leader who has joined the BJP ahead of the Lok Sabha election. http://news.oneindia.in/lucknow/bjp-faces-veteran-headache-in-uttar-pradesh-lse-1419651.html
Sachin=GOD Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 I can guarantee that this kind of ticket distribution process, focussed on targeting and insulting the party veterans while giving more importance to people who have just joined from other parties, will cost the BJP dearly. And this is not happening just in UP but in many other states. All together I think this may cost BJP around 15-20 seats which may very well be the difference between a Modi led Govt and a NDA Govt led by someone else from BJP - so I guess in a way this is a blessing in disguise for both India and BJP.
urbestfriend Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 No, on the other hand BJP will win more seats as it is giving tickets to winnable candidates, doesnt really matter what is his antecedent is or his criminal background. THis is what helped BJP to win in Karnataka in 2008 state elections where they literally fielded winnable candidates from other parties with the help of Reddy brothers and won elections. This is not the old BJP, this is the new BJP who wants to win at any cost, be it fielding Yeddy, or Raja bhaiya.
Sachin=GOD Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 No' date=' on the other hand BJP will win more seats as it is giving tickets to winnable candidates, doesnt really matter what is his antecedent is or his criminal background. THis is what helped BJP to win in Karnataka in 2008 state elections where they literally fielded winnable candidates from other parties with the help of Reddy brothers and won elections. This is not the old BJP, this is the new BJP who wants to win at any cost, be it fielding Yeddy, or Raju bhaiya.[/quote'] Here's the problem - it is not the big leaders but the common unknown workers who win the election (the big leaders may hold rallies and influence some voters but in the end its up to the workers to make sure that the entire constituency is covered in campaigning and that BJP voters come out to vote on election day) and these workers, in most cases, have had a long association with these veteran leaders/local leaders who have been unceremoniously dumped and replaced with outsiders/people from other parties . If the Modi/Rajanth had at least talked to all these seniors and handled the selection process well then neither the leaders nor workers would have minded the denial of tickets and in many cases the seniors would have themselves endorsed the new candidates. But what has happened is that one after the other the seniors across the country are being insulted again and again - young people on social media may like that because they think that these "old hogs" have let the party down but common workers who have been associated with these leaders for decades do not like that at all, especially when the party decides to air drop someone who has absolutely no connection with that place (like Kalraj Mishra from Deoria or Gen. VK Singh from Ghaziabad, Kirron Kher form Chandigarh, Hema Malini from Mathura ets) or worse still from another party. No amount of persuasion or threats will convince the workers/local leaders otherwise (and in most cases the local leaders/workers are right to protest and not work for candidates who used to be in Cong/BSP/SP till 2 days ago or those who have no relation to that place and will, in all probability, not be seen for a long time even if they win). As for people coming from other parties and getting tickets immediately - you can hardly expect BJP leaders who have been working in a constituency for years to suddenly give their seat and on top of that work for someone who used to be in Cong/BSP/SP etc.
The Outsider Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 LOL! Didn't realize Raja Bhaiyya is back in BJP? Did he get a ticket?
bulbul Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 LOL! Didn't realize Raja Bhaiyya is back in BJP? Did he get a ticket? In couple of days he will get ticket from peaceful land of UP :two_thumbs_up:
Sachin=GOD Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 LOL! Didn't realize Raja Bhaiyya is back in BJP? Did he get a ticket? No. He floated his own party and will contest against Modi in Varanasi (he contested against MM Joshi in Varanasi last time and came second). Will probably prove to be a better challenger than Kejri or BSP/SP candidates.
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