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Sachin=GOD Newbie

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Modi should understand the ground realities... If he can wait for another 5 years' date=' it'll be great. [b']He should take the lead and declare that he's not in the PM race and there are many competent PMs in waiting in NDA. He'll just concentrate in winning the election for BJP & NDA to make a Congress free India.... Let NDA first make a govt and run it successfully. Let the investigation agencies investigate Gandhi family, Vadras etc. why effing clamour for PMship now? There are so many important things to do, why he's in a hurry? Sala govt bani nahin aur dekh raja hain PM banney ka khwab...
if he can do that then it will suddenly elevate him to new heights and he really will become a National Leader. Right now his attitude is "party be damned, I want to be PM" - this kind of attitude will not take him anywhere in Indian politics. I'd say he doesn't even have to wait for 5 years - he can just say that NDA' PM candidate should be decided after the elections if we win enough seats - even that would show him as a mature leader who really thinks about the party. But he's just busy in creating a personality cult and making people vote for "Modi" rather than "BJP" .
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NM-SARDAR-PATEL.jpg he has a bright future :cheer:
What Modi wants you to believe and what Sardar Patel really said about RSS
In case you missed it (although it is highly unlikely that APCO and other propaganda machinery, paid for by the public money of hardworking Gujaratis, would have let you miss any news about the recently appointed campaign committee chief (CCC) of the Bharatiya Janata Party), a 182 metre tall statue of Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel is coming up in Bharuch, Gujarat. The project is estimated to cost Rs 2,500 crore, in a state that ran a fiscal deficit of Rs 17,831 crore in 2012-13. Sardar Patel, as we all know, is one of the tallest national leaders from the Congress party. Inspired by Mahatma Gandhi, he joined the Congress party in 1917 and remained a member till his death as India’s Deputy Prime Minister in 1950. As a leader of the party fighting for India’s independence alongside Gandhi and Nehru, he spent several years in the prisons of British India. Of course, no comparable leader of the RSS participated in any of the major movements for India’s independence, be it the Non-Cooperation movement, the Civil Disobedience movement or the Quit India movement. It is hard to miss the irony that the CCC of the BJP, who talks of creating a Congress-free India has to cling on to one of the tallest leaders of the Congress party for his personal gains. But what better can one expect from a person whose entire propaganda is built on such duplicity?

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The CCC of the BJP is a very proud member of the RSS and the events of the last few days have demonstrated that the RSS openly controls the functioning of the BJP. Here is what Sardar Patel thought of the RSS. In his letter of July 18, 1948 to Dr Shyama Prasad Mukherjee after Mahatma Gandhi’s murder, Sardar wrote: “… as[a] result of the activities of these two bodies[the RSS and the Hindu Mahasabha], particularly the former, an atmosphere was created in the country in which such a ghastly tragedy became possible. There is no doubt in my mind the extreme section of the Hindu Mahasbha was involved in this conspiracy. The activities of the RSS constituted a clear threat to the existence of the Government and the State.“(Sardar Patel’s correspondence; Vol. VI, p. 323, Navjivan-1973) In his letter of 11 September 1948 to Sarsangh Chalak of the RSS, Sardar Patel wrote: “The speeches of the Sangh leaders are poisonous. It is as a result of this venom that Mahatma Gandhi has been assassinated. The followers of the Sangh have celebrated Gandhiji’s assassination by distributing sweets.†(“R.S.S. Kaal, Aaj, Udyaaâ€, p. 71, RSS-1983) Going even further, in his response in the Lok Sabha on 2 August 1950 to the Hindu Mahasabha members, after introducing the Defence of India Rules, 1950, Sardar Patel said: “You must remember that when the Father of the Nation was murdered, it was by a group of people who belonged to that organisation [Hindu Mahasabha]. I am ready to prove to anybody that there was a group of people there who were determined to take his life. They were not satisfied even after taking his life. He tells me that the Magistrate did not know who was the Minister to be murdered. He wants to know it. Well, I shall meet this challenge. The Minister meant was the Prime Minister of India.†(The Penguin Book of Modern Speeches, p. 664, Penguin Books-2007)

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Leave alone what Sardar Patel thought of the RSS. Certain groups have been trying to create a myth that Sardar Patel was a partisan and communal Hinduist, who acted against the Muslims during and after the partition. While Sardar was strongly opposed to the divisive and hatred-ridden politics of Jinnah (as were almost all leaders of the Congress including Nehru and Maulana Azad) and was a practicing Hindu in personal life, he was not anti-Muslim by any means. During the days of the partition, as the Home Minister of the country, Sardar Patel visited the Nizamuddin Auliya Dargah area in Delhi, where thousands of Delhi Muslims feared attacks. He prayed at the shrine, visited the people (where a couple of bullets were fired at him from a nearby building) and reinforced the presence of police in Muslim-populated areas. That the Sardar publicly warned police and government officials against partiality and neglect during that tumultuous period is on record. His iconic speech to Sikhs and Hindus at Amritsar during the same period asking them to “Pledge the safety of Muslim refugees crossing the city†is recorded in the annals of history. Should we even compare this to what happened in the state of Gujarat in 2002 under the watch of the CCC of the BJP? Or with the speeches made by him in the aftermath of one of the worst anti-Muslim riots in independent India’s history?

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We cannot also forget that Sardar Patel headed the panel on minorities in the Constituent Assembly. He pioneered Clause 18 (now Arts. 29 and 30 of the Constitution) on safeguarding the cultural and educational rights for the minorities and personally introduced it on 1 May 1947 in the Constituent Assembly. The BJP’s stance on safeguarding the cultural and educational rights of the minorities is well-known. Gujarat government has been shunning a national scholarship scheme for minorities(which has been held constitutional by the Gujarat High Court and denied a stay by the Supreme Court), allowing the central funds to lapse. So much for respect for Sardar Patel and the ideals he stood for and espoused in his life. Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel is a national figure who cannot be allowed to be denigrated by the proponents of the same ideology he fought during his life. Sardar was never a member of the RSS or the Hindu Mahasabha. He was not a communal leader. As is evident from various debates in the Constituent Assembly, he believed in a secular India. It is due to his effort that we have constitutionally safeguarded the cultural and educational rights of the minorities. Those opposed to the Sardar in ideology, thoughts, deeds and action have no right to misappropriate him for petty political gains.

http://blog.tehelka.com/what-modi-wants-you-to-believe-and-what-sardar-patel-really-said-about-rss/
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if he can do that then it will suddenly elevate him to new heights and he really will become a National Leader. Right now his attitude is "party be damned' date= I want to be PM" - this kind of attitude will not take him anywhere in Indian politics. I'd say he doesn't even have to wait for 5 years - he can just say that NDA' PM candidate should be decided after the elections if we win enough seats - even that would show him as a mature leader who really thinks about the party. But he's just busy in creating a personality cult and making people vote for "Modi" rather than "BJP" .
That's because he's an extremely EGOISTIC man... He dreams of becoming PM by being a dictator..That's not possible in India in current political situation... He thinks that he's been winning in Gujjuland hence he'll be winning all over India...Gujjus could be stupid to vote for him that doesn't means people all over India are that stupid... That's why i somehow doubt whether he's really a shrewed politician or not? Because a shrewed politician would've played his cards in a better way and take everybody along him and not being a steamrolling dickhead...
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Get a grip on yourselves guys. Posting a picture with an earlier leader is an insult? What next? Boman Irani's photoshopped pics with Bush in Munnabhai was also an insult?

Sachin=GOD Newbie

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That's because he's an extremely EGOISTIC man... He dreams of becoming PM by being a dictator..That's not possible in India in current political situation... He thinks that he's been winning in Gujjuland hence he'll be winning all over India...Gujjus could be stupid to vote for him that doesn't means people all over India are that stupid... That's why i somehow doubt whether he's really a shrewed politician or not? Because a shrewed politician would've played his cards in a better way and take everybody along him and not being a steamrolling dickhead...
he's a megalomaniac IMO. I also think the same some times because he just doesn't seem to understand the dynamics of coalition politics and seems to be in this delusion that he alone will be able to get 180-200 seats for the BJP.
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Get a grip on yourselves guys. Posting a picture with an earlier leader is an insult? What next? Boman Irani's photoshopped pics with Bush in Munnabhai was also an insult?
I won't say its an insult, but given the contempt Patel held the Bhagwaa Brigade in, it certainly makes no sense.
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he was convicted by sessions court and not Modi
woops, hopefully other session courts in other states start convicting these corrupt ministers. plenty of fertile ground in Karnataka, MH, UP and AP.
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Corrupt mantris getting convicted & going to jail is probably the best news one can hear :nice: PS: MAJOR BLOW to Modi! :giggle:
well he was the water resource minister in Modi's cabinet heres the video of him taking oath only five months ago in presence of his holiness Shri Narendra Modi qBnQ5ARcL7Y
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In 2006, manager of Saurashtra Chemical Company Umesh Bhavsar had registered a complaint against the four alleging that they had illegally mined limestone from the land where the company holds mining rights. Porbandar Police had arrested Bokhiria in 2007 from city airport as after the complaint, he left the country and was declared as an absconder. However, the high court had later released him on bail.
it took seven years to convict him
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Modi’s unequal growth – rich grow richer poor suffer

BJP’s new poll mascot Narendra Modi selling Gujarat’s growth model for India looks fine in diatribe. In reality, it is not equitable and is tilted in favour of rich than aam aadmi (common man). The latest data available with the Planning Commission pulls the bluff off the Modi’s claims that his model is best for growth in India. In fact, it says that Modi’s model helps only rich and corporates. The data shows that what Modi’s has been proclaiming — Gujarat has been fastest growing economic state in the country. Gujarat had highest annual state gross domestic product (SGDP) increase (10.13%) for all India states between 2004-05 and 2012-13, except Uttarakhand. What Modi wants to hide, the data makes it clear. The distribution of benefits of high growth have not been uniform across different strata of society and some states with lower economic growth than Gujarat has done better in equitable distribution of economic gains. Take instance of Odisha having much lower revenue base than Gujarat but was able to reduce poverty by about 20 percentage points between 2004-05 and 2009-10 as compared to just 8.6% for Gujarat. This was despite Odisha recording average annual economic growth during the period of 7.92 % as compared to 10.3% for Gujarat. The statistics collected from different government sources also say that poverty reduction for deprived, especially scheduled tribes and Muslims in Gujarat has been among the lowest in the country, an indication that growth benefit spread has been unequal. Another sign of Modi’s inequitable growth model is high infant and maternal mortality rate — indication of health of 70% of the state’s population — in tribal districts including Dang. In Gujarat the urban IMR is 27 for 1,000 live births as compared to 48 for 1,000 live births, showing Modi’s unequal growth strategy. The cause was said to be huge shortage of health workers in rural parts of rising Gujarat. In all, IMR had fallen in the state by three between 2010 and 2011, much less than several other backward states in the country. In fact, the IMR in Gujarat is comparable with high child death states such as Madhya Pradesh. Madhya Pradesh did better than Gujarat as it was able to reduce infant mortality rate from 76 per 1,000 live births in 2005 to 62 in 2010. Gujarat during same period reduced the rate by just 10 points during the period. And, a probable reason could be Madhya Pradesh doing much better than Gujarat in providing safe drinking water in backward and tribal areas. The tribal districts of Gujarat also suffer from discrimination in school education facilities. The data shows that enrollment rate in tribal areas is about 45 % as compared to state average of 86.5 %. Also, the repetition rate at primary and upper primary levels in districts like Tapi, Banaskantha are very high as compared to the state average. Madhya Pradesh was also able to bring more people out of poverty than Gujarat between 2004-05 and 2009-10 despite lower economic growth, revenue base and per capita income than Gujarat. Similar is the story for so-called Bimaru states such as Odisha or Chhattisgarh or Bihar with Modi’s Gujarat. The plan panel sums up by saying that considering Gujarat’s high growth rate the state’s all India ranking on social indicators is average. Gujarat ranks 15th on IMR, 19th on birth rate, 11th on death rate and 12th in literacy and that took over a decade of Modi’s rule in the western Indian state. Let the statistics speak for itself and decide whether Modi’s development model has real helped Gujarat or not.
http://blogs.hindustantimes.com/ecostani/2013/06/15/modis-unequal-growth-rich-grow-richer-poor-suffer/
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From Babu Bajrangi to Babu Bokhariya and ofcourse Maya Kodnani in middle... Modi's men and women. Another jail bird is now BJP's UP incharge
coming from Congi supporter :giggle:
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