The Outsider Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 in the other news "Delhi victim should have meekly submitted to gang rape: Woman scientist http://daily.bhaskar.com/article/MP-BHO-delhi-gang-rape-she-should-have-submitted-to-rape-says-woman-scientist-4128063-NOR.html :facepalm: Actually that's a sound advise if taken in the right spirit. In a fight where you are over powered it makes sense to surrender and feign defeat than resisting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomainK Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Why nobody can understand what dented means? Dented = with a dent, daag, dhabba - someone of bad character or some blemish on her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cevno Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Actually that's a sound advise if taken in the right spirit. In a fight where you are over powered it makes sense to surrender and feign defeat than resisting. Yeah, but that wasn't the context of it from here judging from the quotes before this advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterTheVoid Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Actually that's a sound advise if taken in the right spirit. In a fight where you are over powered it makes sense to surrender and feign defeat than resisting. Look no further, the retarded scientist and her apologist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prakat Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Actually that's a sound advise if taken in the right spirit. In a fight where you are over powered it makes sense to surrender and feign defeat than resisting. +1 recommended strategy in women's groups. Keep the cost/damage low. Stay alive and get the perps later. It's a patriarchal myth that satisfies the egos of weak men which says the physical act of rape (apart from dry penetration which can be painful) in itself is anything more than a nuisance. What women find most disturbing is the control aspect of it (this can be replicated by just holding the woman in a closed elevator when she is on her way to work) and if the girl is young, the psychologial damage. Not to be too crude but if a woman is into it she can exhaust a group of men and walk away happily. This truth is of course quite challenging to the novice penis. :hehe: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedhi Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 +1 recommended strategy in women's groups. Keep the cost/damage low. Stay alive and get the perps later. It's a patriarchal myth that satisfies the egos of weak men which says the physical act of rape (apart from dry penetration which can be painful) in itself is anything more than a nuisance. What women find most disturbing is the control aspect of it (this can be replicated by just holding the woman in a closed elevator when she is on her way to work) and if the girl is young, the psychologial damage. Not to be too crude but if a woman is into it she can exhaust a group of men and walk away happily. This truth is of course quite challenging to the novice penis. :hehe:Frankly, I am astounded by the deep immorality of this post and the one above advocating submission for the victim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surajmal Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Mindset of the pseudo seculars Politicians would recognise an opportunity at least when it falls on them, if not at a distance. For all political parties committed to the values of liberal democracy, the countrywide outrage over rape is an opportunity to challenge and undermine revaunchist, revivalist Hindutva, committed to Indian tradition that segregates women into goddess or ***** based on chastity. Instead, the occupants of Raisina Hill have successfully turned public anger against themselves, beating up and detaining young protesters, projecting them, to boot, as urban upstarts unconcerned about the violence against women that rages in rural India. http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cursor/entry/courtiers-vs-politicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tendulkar Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 WTF!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 in the other news "Delhi victim should have meekly submitted to gang rape: Woman scientist http://daily.bhaskar.com/article/MP-BHO-delhi-gang-rape-she-should-have-submitted-to-rape-says-woman-scientist-4128063-NOR.html :facepalm: An agricultural scientist, should stick to her farms. Except this wasn't the worst of her comments: she said, 'women instigate men to commit such crimes'. She also raised that why was the victim out of her house after 10 pm and added that if a girl will wander late at night with her boyfriend; such situations are bound to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Its going to be hard to implement & practice gender equality if majority of the women are themselves not on board. There needs to be a serious public education initiative on the lines of harmful effects of tobacco, maybe further than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterTheVoid Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 What about the idiot who boasts about his educational credentials agreeing with the retarded scientist about women submissing themselves to be gang raped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 What about the idiot who boasts about his educational credentials agreeing with the retarded scientist about women submissing themselves to be gang raped? Who, Prof ? I reckon he said "Live today, fight tomorrow" which might be better in some circumstances. This probably wasn't the case, its not like she knew of the horrific mutilation that was to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Frankly' date=' I am astounded by the deep immorality of this post and the one above advocating submission for the victim.[/quote'] It's not submission - it's picking your battles and making sure you have the best odds to fight them. I've witnessed and heard about several fights and invariably the guy who curled up, covered his face, and took the blows came out in a much better situation than the guy who resisted and tried to be a phantom when surrounded by 10 people, at that moment and later when you have the resources to respond back in whichever way you deem appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger80 Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share Posted December 27, 2012 Time for Chacha jaan to express his views BSP MP Shafiqur Rahman Barq, who happens to be a member of the Parliamentary Standing Committee on Home, on Thursday blamed women's clothes and modern culture for the rise in crimes against them. Barq made the controversial statement while talking to Headlines Today after the parliamentary panel questioned Delhi Police Commissioner Neeraj Kumar on the recent gangrape incident and growing atrocities against women in Delhi. "Young men are provoked to commit rape because of the way women dress. Since they dress like Europeans, incidents of rape are taking place in the country. Such mishaps happen because of women's provocative clothing. Earlier there was a decency in the way women dressed, but that is missing now," the Lok Sabha member from Uttar Pradesh's Sambhal constituency said. Barq's shocking statement came on a day when Congress MP and President Pranab Mukherjee's son Abhijit Mukherjee created a controversy by his sexist remark in his reaction to the massive protests that took place in Delhi following the recent gangrape. Comparing the protests with the infamous "Pink Revolution", Mukherjee had said that the protesters were not students, but were "dented and painted women chasing two minutes on fame, giving interviews on TV http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/women-are-to-blame-two-mps-from-different-parties-echo-the-same-regressive-thing-in-21st-century-india/1/239697.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedhi Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 It's not submission - it's picking your battles and making sure you have the best odds to fight them. I've witnessed and heard about several fights and invariably the guy who curled up, covered his face, and took the blows came out in a much better situation than the guy who resisted and tried to be a phantom when surrounded by 10 people, at that moment and later when you have the resources to respond back in whichever way you deem appropriate.There are any number of cases where a spirited resistance demoralizes the perpetrator. Another possibility is that this unfortunate girl's struggle could have led to someone noticing what was happening in the bus, say at a traffic stop. It didnt happen in this case but that would be the natural reaction of any girl in such a situation - to struggle, and cry for help. There have been innumerable cases where neighbors or passers by have been alerted by women being assaulted. If she had not put up a fight the perpetrators may even later claim that the whole thing was consensual. Whatever your theory or strategy may be, the following cannot be refuted: The girl was PERFECTLY ENTITLED TO FIGHT FOR HER DIGNITY with whatever means she had. You are indirectly blaming the victim here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Time for Chacha jaan to express his views Har shaakh pe ullu baitha hai, anjaam-e-gulistaan kya hoga. :wall: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuge Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 ^ This is not the first time I've heard this and won;t be the last time I will hear this sh!t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Whatever your theory or strategy may be, the following cannot be refuted: The girl was PERFECTLY ENTITLED TO FIGHT FOR HER DIGNITY with whatever means she had. You are indirectly blaming the victim here. I am not refuting it. Of course, the girl was entitled to take whatever course of action she thought was best and I am not blaming her. All I am offering is what from my experience has been the best course of action - in instances of other fights which I know about and know people who got the crap kicked out of them because they tried to play He-Man in front of a 10-15 people mob, as opposed to people who curled up and took the beating apologizing profusely and got back later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Time for Chacha jaan to express his views Couldn't expect any diff from him :giggle: BTW he's member of WHAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 +1 recommended strategy in women's groups. Keep the cost/damage low. Stay alive and get the perps later. It's a patriarchal myth that satisfies the egos of weak men which says the physical act of rape (apart from dry penetration which can be painful) in itself is anything more than a nuisance. What women find most disturbing is the control aspect of it (this can be replicated by just holding the woman in a closed elevator when she is on her way to work) and if the girl is young, the psychologial damage. Not to be too crude but if a woman is into it she can exhaust a group of men and walk away happily. This truth is of course quite challenging to the novice penis. :hehe: wtf.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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