Vivek.S.123 Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 yea he is mastering that art:cantstop: Then kick him out and play Shikhar Dhawan. (Another Delhi lad) :giggle:
Ultimate_Game Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 Because Rayudu has showed that he can bat against Intl bowlers' date=' intimidating atmosphere, and pressure situations. Jadhav will be worse than Jadeja if he ever played[/quote'] Based on a recent match which Jadhav played against England, he would do pretty well. So Jadhav "will be worse than Jadeja" without being given a chance even though he has out-performed both Rayudu and Jadeja by a distance at domestic level :giggle: I am sure Pujara would be a huge failure as well as he hasn't shown any ability "against Intl bowlers, intimidating atmosphere, and pressure situations" in IPL :haha:
JaFanatic Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 Then kick him out and play Shikhar Dhawan. (Another Delhi lad) :giggle: you can ask KT he is the best predictor of ICF:secret:
King Tendulkar Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 What are rayuds stats in last 2 FC seasons?
Magneto Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 One word Shivlal Yadav, the goonda ruling the roost in Hyderabad Cricket Association. Rayudu and Yadav's son Arjun were of the same age, Rayudu was obviously the more talented one, went onto lead the national u-19 side. Arjun Yadav meanwhile ows his career to his father. Did nothing at U-16 level for Hyderabad still led them, then was promoted to u-19 were again he did nothing but yet got picked for India u-19. While Yadav was failing, Rayudu's stature was going up and that was eyesore for the Senior Yadav. Shivlal Yadav did everything he could to derail Rayudu's career. He was forced to move out of Hyderabad Ranji side to Andhra, in 2000s, that joker Arjun Yadav attacked him in a Ranji match. And after his career was in a limbo Rayudu joined the ICL which is where the decline began. A story of what could have been. As we enter a period of transition, there is still hope for him though. Hopefully the call up to the T20 side wasn't an one off and there will be opportunities in the future. BTW Shivlal Yadav is the HCA chief, his wife is the HCA Women's Cricket chief and the good for nothing Son has been the HCA captain for u-16, u-19, u-22 and is the current captain of the Ranji side. At the Rajiv Gandhi Stadium, they even have a stand named after Shivlal Yadav! Arjun still averages 28 as a batsman after 83 matches. :cantstop: But I was reading ML Jaisimha's interview on the matter, Rayudu should take some of the blame in the entire thing as well. Jaisimha was Rayudu's coach for 2 different seasons, and does not have many pleasant thing to say about his attitude. http://www.espncricinfo.com/icl/content/story/322016.html
Vivek.S.123 Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 Based on a recent match which Jadhav played against England' date=' he would do pretty well. So Jadhav "will be worse than Jadeja" without being given a chance even though he has out-performed both Rayudu and Jadeja by a distance at domestic level :giggle: I am sure Pujara would be a huge failure as well as he hasn't shown any ability "against Intl bowlers, intimidating atmosphere, and pressure situations" in IPL :haha:[/quote'] And Rayudu did well on the NZ A tour. Scoring big runs in his first time playing in NZ in swinging conditions. If you give Rayudu and Jadhav both 10 games each, you will clearly see that Rayudu will be more successful
gakgupta Posted January 20, 2013 Author Posted January 20, 2013 Why shouldn't I judge him on his domestic performances? His List A career shows that he averages around 32 with just 1 100. That shows an inability to play a long knock. Ishank Jaggi and Kedar Jadhav's stats show that they average in 50s with 4-5 100s' date=' i.e. they can play a big knock when set which is what you want. If I want someone to average 30 with a once in a blue moon 100 I would stick to Yusuf Pathan. Looking good is great but it's consistent performances which should be the basis of selection.[/quote'] I havent seen jadhav play....so i cant really say if he is ahead of rayudu.....if statistics are the inly yardstick for selection, we need ppl from IITs as selwctors on a different note, attitude is so very imp bith on the field and off the field...dravid is known for technique, but was more imp for his success was his temperiment and concentration for long periods. Again,when sachin abd kambli came into intl arena; ppl speculated that kambli would be more successful as he is naturally talented. But extreme dedication from sachin and carefree atttude from kambli gave them diff destinies. Attitude ia so very imp in cricket and rayudu might have on field attitude which allows him to give that fighting innings but doesnt have the overall attitude to play consistently
vvvslaxman Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 You make your own luck. Dhoni is perfect example. He made his own luck. Rayudu, Venu Rao names were in the news even before Dhoni made first class debut IIRC.
nikred Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 Arjun still averages 28 as a batsman after 83 matches. :cantstop: But I was reading ML Jaisimha's interview on the matter, Rayudu should take some of the blame in the entire thing as well. Jaisimha was Rayudu's coach for 2 different seasons, and does not have many pleasant thing to say about his attitude. http://www.espncricinfo.com/icl/content/story/322016.html Yea, the Yadav family was majorly responsible for his struggle but Rayudu's attitude did not help him either. But then again, he was a young talented guy playing for corrupt officials. Could have broken down strongest of guys.
Ultimate_Game Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 I havent seen jadhav play....so i cant really say if he is ahead of rayudu.....if statistics are the inly yardstick for selection, we need ppl from IITs as selwctors on a different note, attitude is so very imp bith on the field and off the field...dravid is known for technique, but was more imp for his success was his temperiment and concentration for long periods. Again,when sachin abd kambli came into intl arena; ppl speculated that kambli would be more successful as he is naturally talented. But extreme dedication from sachin and carefree atttude from kambli gave them diff destinies. Attitude ia so very imp in cricket and rayudu might have on field attitude which allows him to give that fighting innings but doesnt have the overall attitude to play consistently If stats don't count why bother with domestic cricket at all? Just have IPL and be done with it. Yes, selectors need to look at things other than stats but when stats are so over-whelmingly in favor of one player it's hard to ignore. Jadhav averages more than 20 over Rayudu (52 instead of 32), has more 100s (4/5 over 1) and has a SR of 108!!! How does Rayudu even come close to those stats and be ahead of Jadhav for an odi spot? Again, subjective call needs to be made when stats are at least in the same ball-park, for example if the toss up is between Rahane & Rohit, but when one guy averages 52 with 4/5 100s and the other guy averages 32 with just one 100 in nearly 80 games, it's clear former deserves the spot.
Vivek.S.123 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 If stats don't count why bother with domestic cricket at all? Just have IPL and be done with it. Yes, selectors need to look at things other than stats but when stats are so over-whelmingly in favor of one player it's hard to ignore. Jadhav averages more than 20 over Rayudu (52 instead of 32), has more 100s (4/5 over 1) and has a SR of 108!!! How does Rayudu even come close to those stats and be ahead of Jadhav for an odi spot? Again, subjective call needs to be made when stats are at least in the same ball-park, for example if the toss up is between Rahane & Rohit, but when one guy averages 52 with 4/5 100s and the other guy averages 32 with just one 100 in nearly 80 games, it's clear former deserves the spot. Rayudu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jadhav :finger:
munafbhai Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 One word Shivlal Yadav, the goonda ruling the roost in Hyderabad Cricket Association. Rayudu and Yadav's son Arjun were of the same age, Rayudu was obviously the more talented one, went onto lead the national u-19 side. Arjun Yadav meanwhile ows his career to his father. Did nothing at U-16 level for Hyderabad still led them, then was promoted to u-19 were again he did nothing but yet got picked for India u-19. While Yadav was failing, Rayudu's stature was going up and that was eyesore for the Senior Yadav. Shivlal Yadav did everything he could to derail Rayudu's career. He was forced to move out of Hyderabad Ranji side to Andhra, in 2000s, that joker Arjun Yadav attacked him in a Ranji match. And after his career was in a limbo Rayudu joined the ICL which is where the decline began. A story of what could have been. As we enter a period of transition, there is still hope for him though. Hopefully the call up to the T20 side wasn't an one off and there will be opportunities in the future. BTW Shivlal Yadav is the HCA chief, his wife is the HCA Women's Cricket chief and the good for nothing Son has been the HCA captain for u-16, u-19, u-22 and is the current captain of the Ranji side. At the Rajiv Gandhi Stadium, they even have a stand named after Shivlal Yadav! Yup this is correct version
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