Dhondy Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Re: The guy who can't bat, has no mental fortitude etc In fact, I have to say I hold the captain responsible for this consistent underperformance. When the skipper himself can't pull his weight in an all important series like this, it's a bit unfair to expect rousing performances from the others. Link to comment
Anakin Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Re: The guy who can't bat, has no mental fortitude etc So if the team is mediocre and as you say he is best of poor bunch. Why not attack the rest of the poor bunch and leave the best of them alone. It also has been a low scoring series, thus his runs scored is one of the best on either side. Well, I couldn't find a thread pointlessly bigging up others, as this one is.May be because of some "special" threads consistently bashing someone needlessly Link to comment
Gambit Posted January 3, 2007 Author Share Posted January 3, 2007 Re: The guy who can't bat, has no mental fortitude etc The captain has failed as expected. I predicted an under par performance from him on the old site. Coming back to the thread, I see now that Dhondy is terming these 50s and 60s as mediocre. Surely, Dhondy you should be amazed to see a batsman ,who admittedly isn't as good as Pathan, turning out to be our highest run getter in this series. This especially after you wrote an epitaph for him even before the tests began. Link to comment
King Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Re: The guy who can't bat, has no mental fortitude etc Collectively batting has come a cropper. There is no bigger or slighter sinner on this series. Ganguly has showed courage, Tendulkar showed glimpse of his capability, Jaffer chipped in once, Laxman couldn't do enough in the end and for Rahul Dravid this series is a disaster. It just doesn't matter who scored less or more but collectively the batting has been a major failure. Link to comment
Guest dada_rocks Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Re: The guy who can't bat, has no mental fortitude etc My lips are sealed :lmao: but on this belter none of the middle order greats could score a 100 ........Laxman I see is once again bowled.. Heck even amla is scoring here.. what happned to tendu sehwag ganguly after start they should have gone on to hit a big score Link to comment
yoda Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Re: The guy who can't bat, has no mental fortitude etc Collectively batting has come a cropper. There is no bigger or slighter sinner on this series. Ganguly has showed courage' date=' Tendulkar showed glimpse of his capability, Jaffer chipped in once, Laxman couldn't do enough in the end and for Rahul Dravid this series is a disaster. It just doesn't matter who scored less or more but collectively the batting has been a major failure.[/quote'] 400+ runs and our batting has come a cropper. :chin: Link to comment
Dhondy Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Re: The guy who can't bat, has no mental fortitude etc Surely' date=' Dhondy you should be amazed to see a batsman ,who admittedly isn't as good as Pathan, turning out to be our highest run getter in this series. This especially after you wrote an epitaph for him even before the tests began.[/quote'] Two points, Gambo. Firstly, Pathan isn't playing. So we don't know if Sachin would have outscored him. Secondly, the series hasn't ended yet. In any case, 187 runs in 5 innings is pretty poor by any standards, let alone Sachin's. Link to comment
Gambit Posted January 3, 2007 Author Share Posted January 3, 2007 Re: The guy who can't bat, has no mental fortitude etc An average of 37 is good considering we are playing in RSA. Have a look at our test averages over the years: 1992 series [code:0c26e2537f] M I NO Runs HS Avg 100s 50s Ct St N Kapil Dev 4 5 0 202 129 40.40 1 - 1 - PK Amre 4 6 1 169 103 33.79 1 - - - SR Tendulkar 4 6 0 202 111 33.66 1 1 4 - AD Jadeja 3 5 1 99 43 24.75 - - - - SV Manjrekar 4 7 2 116 46 23.20 - - 3 - KS More 4 5 0 102 55 20.39 - 1 11 - SLV Raju 2 3 2 20 18 20.00 - - - - MA Azharuddin 4 6 0 120 60 20.00 - 1 6 - M Prabhakar 4 6 0 112 62 18.66 - 1 4 - AR Kumble 4 5 1 60 21* 15.00 - - 1 - RJ Shastri 3 5 0 59 23 11.80 - - - - WV Raman 1 2 0 21 21 10.50 - - - - J Srinath 3 3 2 6 5 6.00 - - 3 -[/code:1:0c26e2537f] 1996 series [code:1:0c26e2537f] R Dravid 3 6 1 277 148 55.40 39.97 1 1 6 - SR Tendulkar 3 6 0 241 169 40.16 57.79 1 - 3 - VVS Laxman 2 3 2 40 35* 40.00 29.41 - - - - SC Ganguly 3 6 0 202 73 33.66 50.88 - 2 - - MA Azharuddin 3 6 0 160 115 26.66 94.67 1 - 3 - V Rathour 2 4 0 66 44 16.50 29.59 - - 4 - NR Mongia 3 6 0 86 50 14.33 30.38 - 1 14 - A Kumble 3 6 1 66 29 13.20 32.35 - - - - J Srinath 3 5 0 63 41 12.60 52.06 - - - - BKV Prasad 3 6 2 23 15 5.75 41.07 - - - - WV Raman 2 4 0 22 16 5.50 30.98 - - - - DJ Johnson 1 2 0 8 5 4.00 36.36 - - - - D Ganesh 2 4 2 4 2* 2.00 9.75 - - - -[/code:1:0c26e2537f] 2001 series [code:1:0c26e2537f] SR Tendulkar 2 4 1 193 155 64.33 72.01 1 - - - VVS Laxman 2 3 0 150 89 50.00 70.09 - 1 4 - V Sehwag 2 3 0 149 105 49.66 62.60 1 - 3 - SC Ganguly 2 4 1 90 42 30.00 58.82 - - - - D Dasgupta 2 4 0 114 63 28.50 25.73 - 1 4 - R Dravid 2 4 0 102 87 25.50 36.55 - 1 1 - SS Das 2 4 0 72 62 18.00 44.44 - 1 2 - A Kumble 2 3 0 38 28 12.66 28.78 - - 1 - J Srinath 2 3 1 17 16 8.50 45.94 - - - - AB Agarkar 1 1 0 1 1 1.00 16.66 - - - - Harbhajan Singh 1 1 0 0 0 0.00 0.00 - - 1 - Z Khan 1 2 0 0 0 0.00 0.00 - - 1 - A Nehra 1 2 2 17 17* - 56.66 - - - -[/code:1:0c26e2537f] Link to comment
Gambit Posted January 3, 2007 Author Share Posted January 3, 2007 Re: The guy who can't bat, has no mental fortitude etc Firstly, Pathan isn't playing. So we don't know if Sachin would have outscored him. Even if our best batsman Pathan was playing, SRT would still have been the 2nd highest run getter which is amazing considering what you expected of him. Link to comment
Dhondy Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Re: The guy who can't bat, has no mental fortitude etc To be perfectly honest, I think Sachin is back in glorious form. Hence my disappointment. He is not maximizing his starts. Link to comment
The Outsider Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Re: The guy who can't bat, has no mental fortitude etc Its going to happen, Dhondy. He is still not back to where he can be and there are still technical issues in his game, but the improvement from the Tendulkar in the Pakistan and England series in early 2006 is dramatic. Link to comment
Mandrake Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Re: The guy who can't bat, has no mental fortitude etc Sachin looks like almost getting there...he has worked pretty hard in this series and I believe things will get only better from here. Ganguly has stuck it out to play another very good innings....if you look at it two of our big middle order stars-Dravid and Laxman failed here and we still got to 440.....500+ would have been ideal but this is not too bad either. Link to comment
Anakin Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Re: The guy who can't bat, has no mental fortitude etc Two points, Gambo. Firstly, Pathan isn't playing. So we don't know if Sachin would have outscored him. Still being clever and insulting, but whatever floats your boat Link to comment
King Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Re: The guy who can't bat, has no mental fortitude etc Get over this Tendulkar stuff fellas there is more to Indian cricket than just Tendulkar. Tendulkar himself wouldn't be spending so much time analyzing his cricket. Whether he scores or not Indian cricket will move on and so will the rest of the players in the squad. Link to comment
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