Rocky Balboa Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 rocky.. r u the Vicky Donor guy ?? :hmmm: :cantstop: Vicky donor? Who s dat?:hitler:
DomainK Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 Serious question - a few days ago there was a discussion on ICF about prostitution and some people said that it was legal in some parts of India. Now' date=' will an unmarried man and a prostitute be considered married if they have sex?[/quote'] If the prostitute finds the sex gratifying the customer will pay for it for the rest of his life. :phehehe:
ganeshran Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 Nothing wrong with applying the judgement in case of a woman getting pregnant before marriage. The father IS responsible along with the mother for the children regardless of whether they were born in wedlock. The judge could have worded it better to avoid setting some sort of legal precedent.
jalebi_bhai Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 Does this thing include pre-marital oral sex?? What about pre-marital phone sex?? Pre-marital sapne waala sex?? PS: Either the title of this thread is misleading or the judge is on hallucinatory drugs......
Crookbond Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 This is accepted practice worldwide in all judiciaries. Judgement from higher and apex courts become guidelines for lower and trial courts and can't be done away with. Any country's written laws and procedures can't cover all possible scenario that real life situations may throw up. So lower courts are bound to take directions from judgements of higher courts. If there are no written law for any particular case, judge decides on the basis of previous judgements. In fact if you have a SC judgement you can challenge lower court judge on his/her judgement openly in court and if case is identical he would be forced to change judgement. There is established legal concept called ratio dicidendi. As per this concept judgements are given on the basis of relative ratio of previous judgements in similar situations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratio_decidendi So, anybody who says that it is one off case without any consequences clearly don't understand judicial system. That is the point I was trying to make IF and a big IF.
DomainK Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 Does this thing include pre-marital oral sex?? What about pre-marital phone sex?? Pre-marital sapne waala sex?? PS: Either the title of this thread is misleading or the judge is on hallucinatory drugs...... If you are dreaming of taking advantage of this to claim that all Bollywood and Hollywood actresses are your wives, forget it. :headshake:
FischerTal Posted June 18, 2013 Author Posted June 18, 2013 next up - unmarried couples kissing will also be considered married :idea: Kya ho gaya hai iss Judiciary ko :wall: its all modi's fault :wall:
PriyankaSR Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 Just read the first few lines of the article. Does no one else see the ruse? The judge has worded it so poorly that any half decent lawyer will wriggle his/her way out of it. All the guy/gal has to do is say" Oh judge saab, it is right that we had sexual relations, but under no stretch was the act gratifying. So, we cannot actually be considered a couple as we do not meet the necessary prerequisites." :P :giggle:
beetle Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 I really don't understand the paranoia and panic that grips some men every time such topics are brought up. There are some simple social rules to follow. Most Indian girls in India will expect to get married if you are already in the physical relationship. Most people do not jump into bed on the first few dates...the sleeping around comes after considerable going around. That time is enough to gauge if she expects marriage if you get into the next stage of relationship. If you have doubts...just ask.How difficult is it to say...look dear I am not to sure if this is leading to a permanent situation...in the mean while do you mind some sex.You will surely have your doubts cleared. Don't s*l*u*t around with good girls..don't aim to deflower girls .I am sure most of us don't expect our sisters,daughters to have casual sex with guys.Don't expect that from other girls either.Don't mess with people's emotions and bodies. Advice for both parties. If after a serious relationship you don't think it will work out ...then be sensitive about the breakup.Don't dump people disrespectfully. Don't hurt the ones you loved once just because that is the easier option. For those wanting the option of having sex without the promise of marriage ....There are girls(and guys) who don't mind having fun.....find them and let them know that you want only fun.
Divvy Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 I really don't understand the paranoia and panic that grips some men every time such topics are brought up. There are some simple social rules to follow. Most Indian girls in India will expect to get married if you are already in the physical relationship. Most people do not jump into bed on the first few dates...the sleeping around comes after considerable going around. That time is enough to gauge if she expects marriage if you get into the next stage of relationship. If you have doubts...just ask.How difficult is it to say...look dear I am not to sure if this is leading to a permanent situation...in the mean while do you mind some sex.You will surely have your doubts cleared. Don't s*l*u*t around with good girls..don't aim to deflower girls .I am sure most of us don't expect our sisters,daughters to have casual sex with guys.Don't expect that from other girls either.Don't mess with people's emotions and bodies. Advice for both parties. If after a serious relationship you don't think it will work out ...then be sensitive about the breakup.Don't dump people disrespectfully. Don't hurt the ones you loved once just because that is the easier option. For those wanting the option of having sex without the promise of marriage ....There are girls(and guys) who don't mind having fun.....find them and let them know that you want only fun. Couldn't Agree more.
bulbul Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 I really don't understand the paranoia and panic that grips some men every time such topics are brought up. There are some simple social rules to follow. Most Indian girls in India will expect to get married if you are already in the physical relationship. Most people do not jump into bed on the first few dates...the sleeping around comes after considerable going around. That time is enough to gauge if she expects marriage if you get into the next stage of relationship. If you have doubts...just ask.How difficult is it to say...look dear I am not to sure if this is leading to a permanent situation...in the mean while do you mind some sex.You will surely have your doubts cleared. Don't s*l*u*t around with good girls..don't aim to deflower girls .I am sure most of us don't expect our sisters,daughters to have casual sex with guys.Don't expect that from other girls either.Don't mess with people's emotions and bodies. Advice for both parties. If after a serious relationship you don't think it will work out ...then be sensitive about the breakup.Don't dump people disrespectfully. Don't hurt the ones you loved once just because that is the easier option. For those wanting the option of having sex without the promise of marriage ....There are girls(and guys) who don't mind having fun.....find them and let them know that you want only fun. :hatsoff:
DomainK Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 I really don't understand the paranoia and panic that grips some men every time such topics are brought up. There are some simple social rules to follow. Most Indian girls in India will expect to get married if you are already in the physical relationship. Most people do not jump into bed on the first few dates...the sleeping around comes after considerable going around. That time is enough to gauge if she expects marriage if you get into the next stage of relationship. If you have doubts...just ask.How difficult is it to say...look dear I am not to sure if this is leading to a permanent situation...in the mean while do you mind some sex.You will surely have your doubts cleared. Don't s*l*u*t around with good girls..don't aim to deflower girls .I am sure most of us don't expect our sisters,daughters to have casual sex with guys.Don't expect that from other girls either.Don't mess with people's emotions and bodies. Advice for both parties. If after a serious relationship you don't think it will work out ...then be sensitive about the breakup.Don't dump people disrespectfully. Don't hurt the ones you loved once just because that is the easier option. For those wanting the option of having sex without the promise of marriage ....There are girls(and guys) who don't mind having fun.....find them and let them know that you want only fun. I agree with your general philosophy, but law is not meant to protect a society's moral and ethical standards. To legally force wedding on a couple for having sex is not just weird, it's downright crazy.
PriyankaSR Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 I really don't understand the paranoia and panic that grips some men every time such topics are brought up. There are some simple social rules to follow. Most Indian girls will expect to get married if you are already in the physical relationship. Most people do not jump into bed on the first few dates...the sleeping around comes after considerable going around. That time is enough to gauge if she expects marriage if you get into the next stage of relationship. If you have doubts...just ask.How difficult is it to say...look dear I am not to sure if this is leading to a permanent situation...in the mean while do you mind some sex.You will surely have your doubts cleared. Don't **** around with good girls..don't aim to deflower girls .I am sure most of us don't expect our sisters,daughters to have casual sex with guys.Don't expect that from other girls either.Don't mess with people's emotions and bodies. Advice for both parties. If after a serious relationship you don't think it will work out ...then be sensitive about the breakup.Don't dump people disrespectfully. Don't hurt the ones you loved once just because that is the easier option. For those wanting the option of having sex without the promise of marriage ....There are girls(and guys) who don't mind having fun.....find them and let them know that you want only fun. I don't think that is the case anymore with most of the girls of this generation. I mean, a considerable amount of girls I know are not virgins and they don't mind sex within 2-3 dates. But personally, I have to agree with all that you have written. :hatsoff:
bulbul Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 I agree with your general philosophy' date=' but law is not meant to protect a society's moral and ethical standards. To legally force wedding on a couple for having sex is not just weird, it's downright crazy.[/quote'] Right , but there must be some provision for avoiding cheating. Again this can be debated saying where is the proof , still there must be some legal methods to avoid exploitation.
beetle Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 I don't think that is the case anymore with most of the girls of this generation. I mean, a considerable amount of girls I know are not virgins and they don't mind sex within 2-3 dates. But personally, I have to agree with all that you have written. :hatsoff: I agree Priyanka...and it should be the same for both parties. If a girl is ok with premarital sex without marriage...it should not be with some guy who is sure that sex means marriage.:)
DomainK Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 Right ' date=' but there must be some provision for avoiding cheating. Again this can be debated saying where is the proof , still there must be some legal methods to avoid exploitation.[/quote'] If a man sleeps with a woman with a promise to marry and the subsequently breaks the promise, it's rape. How much more protection is needed? Besides, the HC statement does not even talk about protection. It says if two people have sex, it's as good as marriage.
DomainK Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 Besides, lets stop handling grown up women with kid gloves. Sex before marriage is exactly that. People who are so sensitive about virginity and premarital sex should not have sex before marriage. Sex is not an accident. It's not something that just happens to people. When two consenting adults decide to engage in sex, they very well know what they are doing. Why should anyone need any protection from it?
bulbul Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 If a man sleeps with a woman with a promise to marry and the subsequently breaks the promise, it's rape. How much more protection is needed? Besides, the HC statement does not even talk about protection. It says if two people have sex, it's as good as marriage. That statement sounds foolish and looks out of order for general terms , but for that particular case it is ok i guess. what i am talking is in general not according to that statement which i dont think will be legalized.
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