Muloghonto Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 And India was batting on greentops in aus and eng when 8-0 happened not even one pitch was a green top. India last 8 test matches at home at least 4-5 have been on rank turners. Two of four in England and two of four in Australia were more greentops than 'even' wickets, we paid them back with 2 outta 4 rank turners each. And none of them were 'total exploding puff of dust' rank turners either, like the kind we are capable of unleashing ( Mumbai 2007 against the Aussies for example).
KeyboardWarrior Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 How about we get Swann and Monty first to teach you how to spin the ball in India? He is the daddy of all Swanns and Montys. come to daddy again, and he will eat your batsmen alive :haha:
panther Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 Two of four in England and two of four in Australia were more greentops than 'even' wickets, we paid them back with 2 outta 4 rank turners each. And none of them were 'total exploding puff of dust' rank turners either, like the kind we are capable of unleashing ( Mumbai 2007 against the Aussies for example). india in nz those were green tops. ok which ones were green tops than in 8-0?
FischerTal Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 india in nz those were green tops. ok which ones were green tops than in 8-0? which ones were greentops in your 3-0 bashing by the Saffas? Our team actually drew there :secret:
Muloghonto Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 ]india in nz those were green tops. ok which ones were green tops than in 8-0? Okay well if India in NZ in 2003 or so were Greentops, then we've only produced one rank turner in the last decade, Mumbai 2007 vs Aussies.Every other pitch was just as 'balanced' then. Australia: MCG and Perth England: Lords and Trent Bridge.
panther Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 Australia: MCG and Perth England: Lords and Trent Bridge. Perth at best can be classified as an austrilan greentop, not due to movement but bounce, trent bridge only on day 1 when india actually bowled well lords and mcg were not even close to greentops.
panther Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 which ones were greentops in your 3-0 bashing by the Saffas? Our team actually drew there :secret: joburg at most.
Muloghonto Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 Perth at best can be classified as an austrilan greentop' date=' not due to movement but bounce, trent bridge only on day 1 when india actually bowled well lords and mcg were not even close to greentops.[/quote'] Lords and MCG are usually greentops. not as 'greentop' as Brisbane or Edgsbagston, but usually second after them for seam movement. Trent bridge was a regular old English greentop where everyone fails to get to 300 runs in every innings, except we let the English tailenders troll us and score 500+ in their second innings.
FischerTal Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 joburg at most. so what does that say about your ATG phaast boilers?
indiaregulator Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 Special K, as a fellow England fan I advise you to shut the **** up.
panther Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 so what does that say about your ATG phaast boilers? 240 first innings match was already over after 49 ao.
FischerTal Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 240 first innings match was already over after 49 ao. lulz if your bowlers were that special, they could have forced a draw
special K Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 England tampers with pitches more than any other side and sucks outside its comfort zone more than any other side. There is no such thing as legal ball tampering. You guys are ball tamperers, pure and simple. India have never won a test series in Aus or SA in their history. England have won a test series in every country since 2000. Bouncing the ball on the field is legal tampering. Using bottle tops or in India's case, watering some of the pitch so Shane Warne has no affect is cheating.
Muloghonto Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 India have never won a test series in Aus or SA in their history. England have won a test series in every country since 2000. Bouncing the ball on the field is legal tampering. Using bottle tops or in India's case, watering some of the pitch so Shane Warne has no affect is cheating. 1. India are still the better team over the last 10 years than the English. Our performances are a lot more consistent, including home record. 2.Err no it is not legal, that is why you are not allowed to bounce the ball back to the bowler as per the laws of cricket. You can only bounce the ball when the ball is in play, not when the play is dead and returning the ball to the bowler. The law is pretty obvious about that. As for watering the pitches, its nothing more than pure ignorance at talk. What is cheating is rubbing fabric on the ball ( captain cook), bouncing the ball to the bowler when the play is dead, putting dirt on the ball or scratching it. Just face it, after Pakistan, your team has the spottiest ball tampering record.
special K Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 Err no it is not legal, that is why you are not allowed to bounce the ball back to the bowler as per the laws of cricket. You can only bounce the ball when the ball is in play, not when the play is dead and returning the ball to the bowler. The law is pretty obvious about that. As for watering the pitches, its nothing more than pure ignorance at talk. What is cheating is rubbing fabric on the ball ( captain cook), bouncing the ball to the bowler when the play is dead, putting dirt on the ball or scratching it. Just face it, after Pakistan, your team has the spottiest ball tampering record. No India are bigger cheats. Just ask Bangladesh about all the sweets stuck to their bats from Indian bowler. India has an inferior win/loss ratio to England in tests since 2000. This when England were facing 5 tests series against the great Aussie sides. You were even losing to Zimbabwe in the 90's.
Muloghonto Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 No India are bigger cheats. Just ask Bangladesh about all the sweets stuck to their bats from Indian bowlers. Sorry, simply saying so doesnt make it so. Over the years, evidence is clearly abundant that after the Pakis, England are numero uno in ball tampering. India has had one incident in the last 20 years and even then it was accidental ( the Sachin Tendulkar incident, where he noticed the lozenge smearing on the ball when he was rubbing it and brought it to the umpire himself!). England on the other hand, has had ball scratching and putting dirt on the ball from Atherton, ball tampering charges against Anderson & Broad. England = cheats. Pure and simple. Even your former great Bob Willis admits so.
panther Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 lulz if your bowlers were that special' date=' they could have forced a draw[/quote'] Tanveer ahmed-don't even consider him a pakistani umar gul-mediocre test bowler junaid- 1st test in sa, bowled ok in the 1st innings. ajmal-not much in it for the spinner. rahat ali-test debut Irfan-test debut Ehsan adil-test debut, got injured
special K Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 Sorry, simply saying so doesnt make it so. Over the years, evidence is clearly abundant that after the Pakis, England are numero uno in ball tampering. India has had one incident in the last 20 years and even then it was accidental ( the Sachin Tendulkar incident, where he noticed the lozenge smearing on the ball when he was rubbing it and brought it to the umpire himself!). England on the other hand, has had ball scratching and putting dirt on the ball from Atherton, ball tampering charges against Anderson & Broad. England = cheats. Pure and simple. Even your former great Bob Willis admits so. England never cheat. We're the only country that doesn't have match fixers. Without England the whole sport would be pointless.
Muloghonto Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 England never cheat. We're the only country that doesn't have match fixers. Without England the whole sport would be pointless. :haha::haha::haha: Look. i mentioned three incidents with ball tampering right off the top of my head which is cheating. They are bigger cheats than any other team than Pakistan. Even your former bowling great Bob Willis admits so. As for the sport being pointless without England, i am sorry but England has been irrelevant in practically every sport they've played and invented ( cricket, soccer, tennis, rugby) atleast 30 years ago. Without India, cricket does not survive. Without England, we have less cheating players involved.
special K Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 :haha::haha::haha: Look. i mentioned three incidents with ball tampering right off the top of my head which is cheating. They are bigger cheats than any other team than Pakistan. Even your former bowling great Bob Willis admits so. As for the sport being pointless without England, i am sorry but England has been irrelevant in practically every sport they've played and invented ( cricket, soccer, tennis, rugby) atleast 30 years ago. Without India, cricket does not survive. Without England, we have less cheating players involved. England have always been one of the strongest at test cricket. Take England out of test cricket and it dies. In terms of rugby, we've been one of the stronger nations. In regards to football yes, but where are India in football? India just want ODI's. It's the only format you guys are good at to be fair. And you aren't dominant. You're not like the Aussie sides. You will be destroyed if you make the final. But I don't won't no crying okay. :yay:
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