Vilander Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Why the hell do you think this rule was made in first place ? Even guys who made ipl had enough common sense to know that if owner of team is fixing that means whole team is compromised How naive are you to think that if owner spot fixes or bets he will control the play..he can control even which player will play...they have enough control over dhoni to make him lie about meyyapan Thank god Supreme Court is not naive and they saw through this and tore these arguments apart .. I am glad that you worry for my naivety, you do have a big heart to be concerned for an unknown. But have the bets in case of CSK ( no Spot fix) caused an influence on CSK's play, is there evidence in public domain towards proving this that you have seen ? if not then sorry i cant agree with you. But why do you sound so worked up ? Link to comment
Old guy Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Yeah but in case of CSK the issue is conflict of interest from India cements - so sell CSK to some other mgmt. The issue is Meyappan betting - no spot fixing no player betting - so fire meyappan punish him. There is considerable room for forgiving CSK, the court might just do that, then again it might not we just have to wait for the order. Same guys who made csk made the rule which says if management of team is compromised team will be banned because they have significant control over the working of team You are trying to seprate csk from it's management well it's not and they must face the consequences Link to comment
Vilander Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Err' date=' rules are not modified in the middle of the match when someone gets out. They are modified after [b']much debating and testing A criminal cannot break a rule and then modify it. Any modification to the rules which happen will apply for subsequent IPLs, not the one which is already over. Changes in rules do not apply retrospectively. such as what the legal counsel did infornt of the respected court, you might agree. Link to comment
Vilander Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Same guys who made csk made the rule which says if management of team is compromised team will be banned because they have significant control over the working of team You are trying to seprate csk from it's management well it's not and they must face the consequences I am not trying anything, i am stating hope that CSK might be saved, cause it would be a shame if it is not longer there. Link to comment
Old guy Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I am glad that you worry for my naivety' date=' you do have a big heart to be concerned for an unknown. But have the bets in case of CSK ( no Spot fix) caused an influence on CSK's play, is there evidence in public domain towards proving this that you have seen ? if not then sorry i cant agree with you. But why do you sound so worked up ?[/quote'] There is no need of evidence this rule was specifically created to stop such influence you are talking about Link to comment
Vilander Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 There is no need of evidence this rule was specifically created to stop such influence you are talking about I think that explains your general ways of working. So we are fine now, with this understanding. Link to comment
Old guy Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 you use you people too many times for my liking' date=' so you are type casting. I wonder what evidence you have to support your theory that this 'people' do not like SC cleaning Indian cricket.[/quote'] You people mean csk fans which you ur self said they will lose interest so I replied to that Please do not try to make it us vs you ... Link to comment
CSK Fan Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 such as what the legal counsel did infornt of the respected court' date=' you might agree.[/quote'] You are not understanding a very, basic point Rules cannot be changed retrospectively. A criminal cannot break the law and ask it to be changed. And no, the legal counsel did not try to change any rules in the court, what are you even talking about? Link to comment
Old guy Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I think that explains your general ways of working. So we are fine now' date=' with this understanding.[/quote'] There is no need of such evidence that player even committed spot fixing,..it's the rule and Supreme Court took decision like this Evidence that management fixed and betted is enough to ban a team it's the rule which bcci made and has to follow And about players...please do not worry their turn will come too but Supreme Court has made it clear that even with only evidence against meyyapan csk should be banned ... Link to comment
CSK Fan Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I think that explains your general ways of working. So we are fine now' date=' with this understanding.[/quote'] There is enough proof for the supreme court. It has clearly accepted the proof You are the one who somehow seems to know more about laws and rules than the supreme court which has chief justices with decades of experience in laws and rules Next what is your recommendation? A criminal murders someone and asks for the rule to be changed? That is the defence? Remember, the first basic rule of law. Ignorance of law can never be an excuse. Even if you did not law so and so law existed and you accidentally break it, you will still be ppunished Link to comment
Old guy Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 You are not understanding a very, basic point Rules cannot be changed retrospectively. A criminal cannot break the law and ask it to be changed. And no, the legal counsel did not try to change any rules in the court, what are you even talking about? All he has against this point is people in Tamil and will lose interest That is such myopic view of whole situation... Link to comment
Vilander Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 You are not understanding a very, basic point Rules cannot be changed retrospectively. A criminal cannot break the law and ask it to be changed. And no, the legal counsel did not try to change any rules in the court, what are you even talking about? Dude what are you talking about the court has not ordered anything yet, it has proposed to suspend CSK and not prevented any route of reinstatement even in the event of a direct order which by itself might not explicitly order CSK suspension. CSK in all probability is too big a brand to die of just like that. Imagine this could happen to Mumbai Indians, that would be death knell for IPL. Surely no one would want IPL to diminish, just be blemish free definitely. Link to comment
Vilander Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 All he has against this point is people in Tamil and will lose interest That is such myopic view of whole situation... Now you want some assistance or group think from MTC.. that pretty rich from you the myopic comment. Link to comment
Old guy Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Dude what are you talking about the court has not ordered anything yet' date=' it has proposed to suspend CSK and not prevented any route of reinstatement even in the event of a direct order which by itself might not explicitly order CSK suspension. CSK in all probability is too big a brand to die of just like that. Imagine this could happen to Mumbai Indians, that would be death knell for IPL. Surely no one would want IPL to diminish, just be blemish free definitely.[/quote'] Then whole of management and srini will give up csk and probably new team will be created for you fans which will be clean Of there is demand of team and profitability someone else will start new team so you do not have to worry about Tamil Nadu not getting cricket But current corrupt csk will be banned Link to comment
Vilander Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 There is enough proof for the supreme court. It has clearly accepted the proof You are the one who somehow seems to know more about laws and rules than the supreme court which has chief justices with decades of experience in laws and rules Next what is your recommendation? A criminal murders someone and asks for the rule to be changed? That is the defence? Remember, the first basic rule of law. Ignorance of law can never be an excuse. Even if you did not law so and so law existed and you accidentally break it, you will still be ppunished And what are you ? might i ask. Link to comment
Old guy Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Now you want some assistance or group think from MTC.. that pretty rich from you the myopic comment. AGain with us vs you? Link to comment
Vilander Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Then whole of management and srini will give up csk and probably new team will be created for you fans which will be clean Of there is demand of team and profitability someone else will start new team so you do not have to worry about Tamil Nadu not getting cricket But current corrupt csk will be banned Exactly what i have been trying to say all this while. Thanks for understanding that. PS: why would i give a fleeting f about Tamil nadu not getting cricket this is IPL, Tamil Nadu plays in Ranji. Link to comment
Vilander Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 AGain with us vs you? you are either liking it or tiring of it but surely are acting with a belief that there is some US and YOU here. I would like to know who you think belongs with you in US here and who is the YOU here. Link to comment
Malcolm Merlyn Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 CSK fans:facepalm: Chennai may get a team in future if CSK is terminated.So that should be it. Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment
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