Precambrian Posted May 17, 2014 Posted May 17, 2014 Did anyone ask why Manmohan Singh doesn't put on a skull cap ? Is he not psecular enough ? The level of discourse is so ridiculous. You put up candidates who you think will win, and bjp did a damn fine job at that. And now people are complaining they didn't implement reservations in that.
Yoda-esque Posted May 17, 2014 Posted May 17, 2014 so yodayesque' date=' should ban muslim topis and sikh turbans in public since religion shouldn't be public?[/quote'] If you ask me this as a matter of straight logic,then no.
adi B Posted May 17, 2014 Posted May 17, 2014 IMHO ' date='Not sure whether doing Ganga arti was the best idea[/quote'] nah.it was fine as it is his constituency and he couldnt do it b4 the polls
FischerTal Posted May 17, 2014 Posted May 17, 2014 That's why in a country like india, religion can never be a private affair.
Crookbond Posted May 17, 2014 Posted May 17, 2014 I don't know if people have realized but here are the list of winning MPs Kamal Nath http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamal_Nath#Alleged_involvement_in_the_Sikh_Genocide_.281984.29 Giriraj Singh (People should go to Pakistan, All terrorists Belong to one community) and the most heartbreaking for me is Jayaprakash Narayan from Loksatta party lost in Andhra Pradesh (came 4th!) to TDP candidate. These results tell me that people have voted for Modi and I hope that we have less of criminal MPs and more of development.
bulbul Posted May 17, 2014 Posted May 17, 2014 I don't know if people have realized but here are the list of winning MPs Kamal Nath http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamal_Nath#Alleged_involvement_in_the_Sikh_Genocide_.281984.29 Giriraj Singh (People should go to Pakistan, All terrorists Belong to one community) and the most heartbreaking for me is Jayaprakash Narayan from Loksatta party lost in Andhra Pradesh (came 4th!) to TDP candidate. These results tell me that people have voted for Modi and I hope that we have less of criminal MPs and more of development. JP lost because he doesn't do any drama like Kejri. Do you know he asked alliance with AAP? but they rejected it.Now he is have a tie up with BJP. As some one said yesterday here RS seat for him will be a good.
Crookbond Posted May 17, 2014 Posted May 17, 2014 JP lost because he doesn't do any drama like Kejri. Do you know he asked alliance with AAP? but they rejected it.Now he is have a tie up with BJP. As some one said yesterday here RS seat for him will be a good. Do you like HAVE TO compulsorily make one or the other completely random statement in every post? This is not nukkad chai debate competition where you throw in a punch line and people clap hands. Cut your drama, it's annoying and lowers the quality of a discussion. If drama would lead to wins, according to your logic Modi would have lost in Varanasi. But, I am sure you won't get it all so here are some facts for you. JP lost because of the TDP-BJP politics over the seat from the constituency he was contesting. He allied with the NDA and the TDP-BJP politics made it mandatory for TDP to field a candidate. Read the news reports on this. Finally, there is no evidence to suggest that AAP did not accept Loksatta's tie up. It might have been Loksatta who rejected it. Lok Satta Party rules out any electoral tie-up with AAP Read more at: http://www.firstpost.com/politics/lok-satta-party-rules-out-any-electoral-tie-up-with-aap-1358037.html?utm_source=ref_article
surajmal Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 Why are Lefties such 'tards? Read a few articles from India and other countries... Used to seethe with anger before, but these days (yesterday onwards), I am left with a steady smirk on my face. Modi hasn't even taken office yet. Imagine what will happen, when he launches a cleanup operation of Maoist infested areas... I'm just giddy with anticipation.
Alchemist Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 He is going to be no nonsense guy. Development for all, appeasement for none !!
surajmal Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 Interesting fact that geniuses keep bringing: Rajya Sabha is still out of reach and 11 states still have Congress government. And they mention this tidbit with glee. These chus actually think a party that won 73/80 seats in UP can't find a way to work around these "supposed" impediments (which are temporary in nature anyways since several state elections are on the horizon).
Precambrian Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 Interesting fact that geniuses keep bringing: Rajya Sabha is still out of reach and 11 states still have Congress government. And they mention this tidbit with glee. These chus actually think a party that won 73/80 seats in UP can't find a way to work around these "supposed" impediments (which are temporary in nature anyways since several state elections are on the horizon). And how is Rajya Sabha supposed to be an impediment? Many of the bills need just loksabba to pass, even if Rajya Sabha rejects it. For first time in ages well have a fully functioning parliament without pepper spray and adjournments. There should be a bill brought for ensuring minimum attendance in parliament to curtail the likes of Rahul Gandhi skipping as he likes.
varun Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 And how is Rajya Sabha supposed to be an impediment? Many of the bills need just loksabba to pass' date=' even if Rajya Sabha rejects it. [/quote'] Even if RS rejects certain bills which require their approval, NDA has the numbers to pass it in a joint parliament session anyway.
surajmal Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 And how is Rajya Sabha supposed to be an impediment? Many of the bills need just loksabba to pass' date= even if Rajya Sabha rejects it. For first time in ages well have a fully functioning parliament without pepper spray and adjournments. There should be a bill brought for ensuring minimum attendance in parliament to curtail the likes of Rahul Gandhi skipping as he likes. While money bills, like the budget, can be passed by the Lok Sabha even if the Rajya Sabha rejects them, in the case of laws that do not relate to constitutional amendments, the assent of both the houses is mandatory. With the NDA having just 64 members in the Rajya Sabha, the chances of getting any contentious bill passed is zero. However, there are now two reasons why the BJP can overcome the Rajya Sabha hurdle – if it wants to. First, the decimation of the Congress means that some regional parties can be brought around to support NDA legislation with some kind of bargaining. In the current Rajya Sabha, the BJP has 46 seats, Shiv Sena three, TDP six, ADMK 10, BJD six, SAD three, RPI one, LJP 1, INLD 2 and NCP six. Then there are a whole range of single-MP parties and independents. Together they add up to quite a few floating numbers. The implacable anti-BJP numbers are Congress (68), Left (11), RJD (1), BSP (14), DMK (4) and SP (9). But that’s just 107 seats in a house of 250, including 12 nominated members. Clearly, by offering party-specific deals and effective floor coordination, the BJP can clearly get the required numbers in the Rajya Sabha if it really wants one. Second, the sweeping victory in the Lok Sabha for the NDA – where it could get 335-340 seats - will give it a majority in case the Rajya Sabha rejects any law, and a joint session of parliament has to be called to break the logjam. Under article 118 of the constitution, the president can call a joint session of both the houses to pass any bill that is not a constitutional amendment bill. This means bills like the Food Security Bill, the Land Acquisition Bill, or other such UPA rights legislations can be overturned or amended – assuming this is something the BJP wants to do. In a joint sitting, the total number of members (LS plus RS) would be 795 – 545 from the Lok Sabha, including two nominated members, and 250 Rajya Sabha members in its full strength, including 12 nominated ones. With 340 seats in the Lok Sabha, the BJP needs only 60 votes from the Rajya Sabha in a joint setting. The BJP has effectively broken the Rajya Sabha jinx that has bedeviled the Congress and other governments before it. http://www.firstpost.com/politics/how-bjp-can-overcome-the-rajya-sabha-challenge-1527337.html
Precambrian Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 http://www.firstpost.com/politics/how-bjp-can-overcome-the-rajya-sabha-challenge-1527337.html Huh, constitutional amendments can wait. There are ton loads of other stuff to be done before article 370 etc are taken up.
surajmal Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 Huh' date=' constitutional amendments can wait. There are ton loads of other stuff to be done before article 370 etc are taken up.[/quote'] A contentious issue need not be just constitutional amendments dealing with "secular" issues . Subsidy bills, land act and perhaps the biggest of them all, Labour law will create plenty of opposition. Point is, there is plenty to be done and if Modi has intent, he should be able to find ways through the maze.
bulbul Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 Do you like HAVE TO compulsorily make one or the other completely random statement in every post? This is not nukkad chai debate competition where you throw in a punch line and people clap hands. Cut your drama, it's annoying and lowers the quality of a discussion. If drama would lead to wins, according to your logic Modi would have lost in Varanasi. But, I am sure you won't get it all so here are some facts for you. JP lost because of the TDP-BJP politics over the seat from the constituency he was contesting. He allied with the NDA and the TDP-BJP politics made it mandatory for TDP to field a candidate. Read the news reports on this. Finally, there is no evidence to suggest that AAP did not accept Loksatta's tie up. It might have been Loksatta who rejected it. Lok Satta Party rules out any electoral tie-up with AAP Read more at: http://www.firstpost.com/politics/lok-satta-party-rules-out-any-electoral-tie-up-with-aap-1358037.html?utm_source=ref_article Initially, many among us felt that we should not field anyone against Mr. Jayaprakash Narayan. However, now we want to see him defeated. How can he promote the usage of GM crops in his manifesto when we are still unsure of what impact it can have on our health?†said B. Ramakrishna Raju, Convenor, AP campaign committee, AAP. Talks are underway between Left parties and AAP to extend support to Mr. Nageswar’s candidature. http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Hyderabad/aap-to-work-for-jps-defeat/article5816050.ece Regarding the comment. It's not a random one we have discussed about JP here and why he failed to get enough publicity :--D
bulbul Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 Need some rethinking on Rajya sabha...BSP have 14 seats
G_B_ Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 Dont worry too much on the rajya sabha. BJP wins in Rajasthan and MP should add quite a few to their account. I dont think the full effect of the scale of those victories is taken into account. Concentrate on sweeping maharashtra assembly especially as it has the ability to add numbers to the rajya sabha. They can also hold a joint session. NDA are 336 seats + NDA currently (62) which gives them 398. So they will be over the line.
bulbul Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 Dont worry too much on the rajya sabha. BJP wins in Rajasthan and MP should add quite a few to their account. I dont think the full effect of the scale of those victories is taken into account. Concentrate on sweeping maharashtra assembly especially as it has the ability to add numbers to the rajya sabha. They can also hold a joint session. NDA are 336 seats + NDA currently (62) which gives them 398. So they will be over the line. Question is not that. This RS concept looks outdated. BSP having 14 seats without even having a single seat in LS & not in power in UP, and having a big say in policy decisions is horrible.
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