Raghav_12 Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Congress has completely lost it's touch with the reality. Almost all of their leaders are from political families. I don't think if a newcomer who doesn't come with any political family and who has grown from roots would have any future in Congress. A leader like Narendra Modi is an impossibility in current congress setup. I am just looking at their leadership in MP, my home state. They have Joytiraditya Scindia, Digvijay Singh, Ajay Singh (Son of late Arjun Singh) and Son of Subhash Yadav and Kamal Nath, who is a big industrialist.
Sachin=GOD Posted May 21, 2014 Author Posted May 21, 2014 The problem with the Congress now is that there is no leader capable of standing up to the Nehru Dynasty. With the death/exit from party etc of leaders like Madhavrao Scindhia, Jeetendra prasad, Pranab Mukherjee, Arjun Singh, Sharad pawar, ND Tiwari etc there is literally nobody who has the stature to come out and and openly challenge the dynasty's authority.
BeautifulGame Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Milind Deora first to speak out: Rahul Gandhi advisers wrong, so were people they advised In the first open criticism from within the Congress after the party’s crushing electoral defeat, former union minister Milind Deora said on Wednesday that Rahul Gandhi’s advisers did not have their “ears to the ground” and those with “no electoral experience” were “calling the shots”, but added that “the people who take the advice also have to bear responsibility”. Speaking to The Indian Express, Deora, who lost from Mumbai South, said while “many factors” led to the party’s defeat and Rahul’s leadership alone could not be blamed, “it was not about one person’s image but the people surrounding that person also”. “The question is whether the set of advisers had their ears to the ground… There were strong murmurs in the party that people who are calling the shots are people with no electoral experience… no stature, standing, respect and credibility in the party. They were in charge of important departments and held key positions. This whole group of people did not listen to what party cadres and MPs were saying. They did not allow diverse opinion to come through… and shut out a lot of people. Many of us knew the party has become unresponsive. Had the system been more open and accomodative and had the diverse opinions been openly heard, corrective measures could have been taken,” he said. “A lot of us felt our voices were never heard. We felt our voices don’t matter. This has to change. The MPs and ministers should not feel we are being not heard,” he added. “It is not the advisors alone. The people who take the advice also have to bear responsibility. Those who gave advice and those who received the advice as also those who feel they can give better advice — all have to bear responsibility,” said Deora, while refraining from taking any names. The only way forward, he said, was for the party to “open up” and “promote avenues for dissent and debate internally”. The party should introduce free and frank discussions and accountability, he said. Stating that a “series of things have been going wrong for a long time”, Deora said, “I don’t think blaming the campaign alone is the right way to look at it. We went wrong in many areas. From the point of view of the party, government, communication, coordination in the party, coordination between the party and government — in all of these areas we were going wrong drastically… There were things unfolding for a long period of three years.” He said both the party and the government did not “respond adequately”. “When it responded, it came out as arrogant and insensitive. And it all culminated in the campaign, which from the start was a very difficult campaign. It was our undoing frankly. It was a self-inflicted wound,” he said. “I do believe the buck stops with the party. It is easy to say that the government did not do something. But the party has the power to make changes in the government. The party was sitting and watching what was happening and unfolding. The party should have stepped in long time back,” he said. Asked who was to blame, he said, “there are many people from top to bottom… there was lack of coordination and the response was slow… there was a very unresponsive attitude. That’s why I said the buck stops with the party.” Deora said even the message that came out of the CWC meeting on Monday could have been articulated better. “The whole CWC meeting could have been handled much better. The message going out to those who supported the party, voted for the party and worked for the party could have been articulated much better. I don’t think the right message is coming out. These are the things in the party which have to be changed radically,” he said. Now that the Congress is in the opposition, he said the party has to decide whether it wants to become an NGO or a political organisation. “We are a political party. We have to be an aggressive opposition now. It needs certain skill sets, leaders, communication skills, strategists, and all these things require discussion, debate and deliberation. We have to have the right people at the right place. The kind of people who are calling the shots now… People who are policy experts, technocrats, researchers should be connected with the dotted line to the organisation. They should not be a part of the core organisational chart of the party as has been happening for the last few years,” he said.
bulbul Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 ^ he didnt mentioned Rahul directly..this is the problem in Con party :haha:
Sachin=GOD Posted May 22, 2014 Author Posted May 22, 2014 What does it mean If Modi Govt does not listen to the people then we will set things on fire - I guess he was speaking metaphorically.
Precambrian Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 If Modi Govt does not listen to the people then we will set things on fire - I guess he was speaking metaphorically. Rahul Baba - We need him more often doing this :yay: Good for BJP
G_B_ Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 I think people are going overboard. If the BJP for example fails to contain inflation then the congress will be back as the alternative. Maybe not full majority but they will be back. However if the BJP delivers on the economy is goodbye to the congress for another 5 years cause the dynasty is not strong enough in todays India to win elections on their own. The congress though remains the party with the most wide spread infrastructure in the country. They have the infrastructure in place. A lot of people said the same of the Gandhis when they lost in 1999. While the margin of that hammering was nothing to what its now, they will made a comeback. I feel for the next 20 years or so the BJP and the congress will be in positions to form governments once the other slips up.
Precambrian Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 I think people are going overboard. If the BJP for example fails to contain inflation then the congress will be back as the alternative. Maybe not full majority but they will be back. However if the BJP delivers on the economy is goodbye to the congress for another 5 years cause the dynasty is not strong enough in todays India to win elections on their own. The congress though remains the party with the most wide spread infrastructure in the country. They have the infrastructure in place. A lot of people said the same of the Gandhis when they lost in 1999. While the margin of that hammering was nothing to what its now, they will made a comeback. I feel for the next 20 years or so the BJP and the congress will be in positions to form governments once the other slips up. yes but in 1999, Congress on its own still got over 100 seats... 120 IIRC, What they have now is less than half of that, nearly a third. And with the rise of AAP which has definitely eaten into its "core vote bank" that of minorities, Congress is now without rudder. The whole country hates its leaders, especially Rahul Gandhi - that hate is destroying congress every day. Without leadership change, Congress can kiss its chances goodbye possibly forever. BJP faced the same route post 2009, where it was saddled by a nearly impotent/over the hill dogmatic leadership not cognizant of the new and younger blood and instead living in their past glory.
Ghost Buster Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Congressis dont have to worry, priyanka's children are getting ready to become Prime minister after their exam results.
bulbul Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 I think people are going overboard. If the BJP for example fails to contain inflation then the congress will be back as the alternative. Maybe not full majority but they will be back. However if the BJP delivers on the economy is goodbye to the congress for another 5 years cause the dynasty is not strong enough in todays India to win elections on their own. The congress though remains the party with the most wide spread infrastructure in the country. They have the infrastructure in place. A lot of people said the same of the Gandhis when they lost in 1999. While the margin of that hammering was nothing to what its now, they will made a comeback. I feel for the next 20 years or so the BJP and the congress will be in positions to form governments once the other slips up. In 1999 Vajpayee was silent about opposition,i dont think it will repeat this time.. Evne with inflation ,economy etc BJp can still get 200+ seats next time with proper planning.
FischerTal Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 more likely chance of KRK running RSS shakha than Sonia/Rahul resigning
Sachin=GOD Posted May 22, 2014 Author Posted May 22, 2014 Assam CM Tarun Gogoi has offered his resignation due to the party's poor performance in Assam. Sonia Gandhi rejected his resignation. So here is the "introspection" that has happened till now in Cong: Sonia Gandhi, Rahul Gandhi, entire Congress Working Committee (CWC) and Tarun Gogoi have offered to resigned.... Sonia Gandhi rejected Rahul Gandhi's resignation. Rahul Gandhi rejected Sonia Gandhi's resignation. Sonia & Rahul Gandhi rejected CWC's resignation. Sonia Gandhi rejected Tarun Gogoi's resignation.
cндябеяs Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 RQY-7b2XLe8 i doubt that lazy ass has that many emotions
asterix Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Assam CM Tarun Gogoi has offered his resignation due to the party's poor performance in Assam. Sonia Gandhi rejected his resignation. So here is the "introspection" that has happened till now in Cong: Sonia Gandhi, Rahul Gandhi, entire Congress Working Committee (CWC) and Tarun Gogoi have offered to resigned.... Sonia Gandhi rejected Rahul Gandhi's resignation. Rahul Gandhi rejected Sonia Gandhi's resignation. Sonia & Rahul Gandhi rejected CWC's resignation. Sonia Gandhi rejected Tarun Gogoi's resignation. And Indian voters REJECT all of them and continue to do so...
Number Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 Kerala Congress leader H Mustafa called Rahul Gandhi a joker.
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