Lurker Posted July 16, 2009 Posted July 16, 2009 Exactly' date=' p_k. Barring Bengal, I do not remember having been to a single shop with Bengali food elsewhere in India. The sweets/MISHHHHTI is all we see.[/quote'] Thats because you may have never tried to explore it much, or maybe that you lacked a Bengali friend. Bengalis are world famous for fishes. In keeping with stereotypes I would say there is NO stereotype bigger in India than Bengalis = loves fishes. They have different fish recipes but their fish fry (in sarson tel) is specially yummy. Other dishes that I can rattle off my head(and yes Bihar's proximity to Bengal helps): a) Shim(snow peas) ki sabzi with mustard seeds. b) Ghughni (made of Bengal gram both Biharis and Bengalis fight abt its origin, mostly served with Puris or chapati) c) Baigan Bhaaja (thin brinjal fry). etc etc. As for why Bengali restaurants missing? Well so are Tamil Nadu, Uttar Pradesh, Oriya restaurants. Bengal is a state not a region. The only state that I have seen that has its own restaurants(well sort of) is Rajasthan where mostly vegetarian dishes are served...they are yummy as well. By the by dismissing Bengali contribution as "only" sweets is misleading. Heck Bengalis invented the entire chenna/khoa based mithai system, virtually half of Indian taste palate. xxx
rahuliverpool Posted July 16, 2009 Posted July 16, 2009 Quite possible, Lurker. What I meant was that Bengali delicacies are very rare in restaurants. The only place where you can get genuine Bengali food is in Bengal, which is mostly not the case with food from the other parts of the world. It is something like vada-pav- only available in Maharashtra. You see, TN comes under South Indian, there is no special UP food- their pedas, pumpkin sabji, kebabs (lucknow) are available everywhere. Bengal has a lot of food of its own and unfortunately a sole Bengali restaurant catering to their specialties is nowhere to be seen elsewhere in the country. Although, I must say mishti doi (tried it when I went to Calcutta) was my absolute favorite, so much so that till date, I cannot have dahi without sugar.
Lurker Posted July 16, 2009 Posted July 16, 2009 Are there any Biharis who do NOT chew and spit pan? I don't. That said I have total disrespect for modern day Indians who fail to realize the importance of paan in our heritage. Simply put there are few substance who are as much part of Indian culture, specially North Indian, that can match paan. Both Hindus and Muslims fight for the rights of the "origin" of it but what is certainly true is from a high society Shia Muslim to an ulta-aanchal wearing Bengalan lady, there is often a common thread of paan. Of course I am against spitting in the open, but to simply use that as an excuse to deride paan(not saying that you are) is ridiculous. As I said earlier there are few things as quintessential Indian as paan is. xxx
Lurker Posted July 16, 2009 Posted July 16, 2009 What I meant was that Bengali delicacies are very rare in restaurants. Actually if you indeed live in Liverpool(going by your monicker) there is a good chance you are already eating Bengali food considering half of UK desi restaurants are owned by Bangladeshis. The only place where you can get genuine Bengali food is in Bengal, which is mostly not the case with food from the other parts of the world. It is something like vada-pav- only available in Maharashtra. It would be impossible to base food habits on state by state basis. In the end Bengal as a state can not compete with South India(or North India) as a region. Now if Bengal/Bihar/Orrissa were one state(which they were historically till 1905) you would indeed hear lot more about Bengali/Eastern eating habits. there is no special UP food- their pedas, pumpkin sabji, kebabs (lucknow) are available everywhere. The Awadhi style of UP food is one of the best India has to offer. There is this famous anecdotes of how Wajid Ali Shah's khansaama beat the pants out of every cook ranging from Hyderabad to J&K. Although it is not exactly a surprise to see these days people are more interested in eating at a TGIF, a Barista than looking around for Awadhi style of cooking. Although, I must say mishti doi (tried it when I went to Calcutta) was my absolute favorite, so much so that till date, I cannot have dahi without sugar. Yes the misthi doi is fantastic. Pretty much most Bengali sweets are ranging from Rosgulla to Sandesh. xxx
rahuliverpool Posted July 16, 2009 Posted July 16, 2009 Actually if you indeed live in Liverpool(going by your monicker) there is a good chance you are already eating Bengali food considering half of UK desi restaurants are owned by Bangladeshis. Nah, I don't live there, just my birthplace and favorite (to the point of madness) football club. :dance:
maggot_brain Posted July 16, 2009 Posted July 16, 2009 Actually if you indeed live in Liverpool(going by your monicker) there is a good chance you are already eating Bengali food considering half of UK desi restaurants are owned by Bangladeshis. Not true. Most restaurants are owned by Bangladeshis but the food they serve is no way authentic Bengali cusiine. Yes the misthi doi is fantastic. Pretty much most Bengali sweets are ranging from Rosgulla to Sandesh. xxx Totally agree with this. Try finding mishti doi in Northern England though! You won't have much luck.
Lurker Posted July 16, 2009 Posted July 16, 2009 Not true. Most restaurants are owned by Bangladeshis but the food they serve is no way authentic Bengali cusiine. I know, that was kind of tongue-in-cheek comment.
The Outsider Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 Quite possible, Lurker. You see, TN comes under South Indian, there is no special UP food- their pedas, pumpkin sabji, kebabs (lucknow) are available everywhere. Kabhi Lucknow aao miyaan to khaane khilaayenge, aur uske baad paan bhi! This is actually the first time I have heard that Lucknow food is available everywhere. Can you list a few dishes unique to Lucknow without googling? Or go ahead and google as well for I am sure the websites that would have been made on authentic Awadhi cuisine would be ignorant as well. For starters, do you know that in a traditional Awadhi marriage 56 types of Kababs were served. I've actually been to one which had 36 types. I can bet you would not have had even 6 types of Kababs in your life.
flamy Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 Kabhi Lucknow aao miyaan to khaane khilaayenge, aur uske baad paan bhi! This is actually the first time I have heard that Lucknow food is available everywhere. Can you list a few dishes unique to Lucknow without googling? Or go ahead and google as well for I am sure the websites that would have been made on authentic Awadhi cuisine would be ignorant as well. For starters, do you know that in a traditional Awadhi marriage 56 types of Kababs were served. I've actually been to one which had 36 types. I can bet you would not have had even 6 types of Kababs in your life. :yikes: 36 types of kebabs :omg: i want! :girly1: One more thing i forgot about Southies; - their women grease up their long, waist-length hair with a metric *****-ton of olive oil - usually Dabur Amla. You can smell them from a mile away without fail. FAIL! It is coconut oil. By the way who are Gults? :fail:
maggot_brain Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 Nah' date=' I don't live there, just my birthplace and favorite (to the point of madness) football club. :dance:[/quote'] come on the Blues!
Anonymous Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 Portrayal of southies in bollywood has influenced most stereotypes that People from other parts of the country have on them. Not all southies are coffee guzzling dhoti draped with sacred ash across their foreheads. Nor is Oily hair with jasmine flowers the in thing among educated women down south.... Believe me the most offensive thing is to call a kannadiga, madrasi... Each state has its distinctive culture and language. Andhraites call tamilians Sambar, while the tamilians mock them as goltees. Well I am both.. I had a friend from the north east during my UG in chennai. He said that southies were much more tolerant of them than other people especially in delhi where he was called names like dog eater etc....People from the NE are the most stereotyped of the lot....
maggot_brain Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 Portrayal of southies in bollywood has influenced most stereotypes that People from other parts of the country have on them. Not all southies are coffee guzzling dhoti draped with sacred ash across their foreheads. Nor is Oily hair with jasmine flowers the in thing among educated women down south.... Believe me the most offensive thing is to call a kannadiga, madrasi... Each state has its distinctive culture and language. Andhraites call tamilians Sambar, while the tamilians mock them as goltees. Well I am both.. I had a friend from the north east during my UG in chennai. He said that southies were much more tolerant of them than other people especially in delhi where he was called names like dog eater etc....People from the NE are the most stereotyped of the lot.... By NE do you mean like Arunachal Pradesh, Nagaland etc and therefore Southeast Asian looking? And yeah I've heard South Indians are pretty decent, all of the southies I've met have been.
rahuliverpool Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 Kabhi Lucknow aao miyaan to khaane khilaayenge, aur uske baad paan bhi! This is actually the first time I have heard that Lucknow food is available everywhere. Can you list a few dishes unique to Lucknow without googling? Or go ahead and google as well for I am sure the websites that would have been made on authentic Awadhi cuisine would be ignorant as well. For starters, do you know that in a traditional Awadhi marriage 56 types of Kababs were served. I've actually been to one which had 36 types. I can bet you would not have had even 6 types of Kababs in your life. wow, that's news to me! 36 types of Kababs :crazy4::crazy4: I'll surely be making a trip there soon :dance:
maggot_brain Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 I don't really care for Football to be honest. My friend is a scouser and he supports the Blues. If I liked Football I'd support Middlesbrough. I was about to say in the Premier League but they got relegated.:hysterical:
Desi Cartman Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 Portrayal of southies in bollywood has influenced most stereotypes that People from other parts of the country have on them. Not all southies are coffee guzzling dhoti draped with sacred ash across their foreheads. Nor is Oily hair with jasmine flowers the in thing among educated women down south.... Believe me the most offensive thing is to call a kannadiga, madrasi... Each state has its distinctive culture and language. Andhraites call tamilians Sambar, while the tamilians mock them as goltees. Well I am both.. I had a friend from the north east during my UG in chennai. He said that southies were much more tolerant of them than other people especially in delhi where he was called names like dog eater etc....People from the NE are the most stereotyped of the lot.... Why is it offensive ? everytime I tell someone " I am" or "I can speak" punjabi (actually my father is from Himachal ) they ask me "so u r sikh" :dontknow:. It doesnt offend me .. why should it ? even if someone asks me if Im from Nagaland, why should it offend me ?
rahuliverpool Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 Why is it offensive ? everytime I tell someone " I am" or "I can speak" punjabi (actually my father is from Himachal ) they ask me "so u r sikh" :dontknow:. It doesnt offend me .. why should it ? even if someone asks me if Im from Nagaland' date= why should it offend me ? To that your reply should be, I am from "Saag"aland :haha:
Anonymous Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 Why is it offensive ? everytime I tell someone " I am" or "I can speak" punjabi (actually my father is from Himachal ) they ask me "so u r sikh" :dontknow:. It doesnt offend me .. why should it ? even if someone asks me if Im from Nagaland' date=' why should it offend me ?[/quote'] Desi, come on man u seem to be unaware of the kind of animosity between tamilians and kannadigas over the cauvery issue, there were riots back then. It has cooled down a bit now but not over... All I am saying is that this is a unique case.. I am an Indian first and actually people mistake me for a northie , am not offended...
Desi Cartman Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 Desi' date=' come on man u seem to be unaware of the kind of animosity between [b']tamilians and kannadigas over the cauvery issue, there were riots back then. It has cooled down a bit now but not over... All I am saying is that this is a unique case.. I am an Indian first and actually people mistake me for a northie , am not offended... Thats my point , I dont understand why would people be offended .. water issue is sarkari issue , its not lilke India Pak situation where some mofos are training jihadis and sending them by boat ..
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