Defying Ban: BCCI seeks explanation from Vengsarkar

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The BCCI sought an explanation from Dilip Vengsarkar for continuing to write newspaper columns defying the BCCI's ban. More...

[siddhu]

I do hope that vengicircus gets removed... this guy is a total idiot and should not head the selection panel

[Chandan]

I do hope that vengicircus gets removed... this guy is a total idiot and should not head the selection panel

But perhaps there is a bad news: Selectors will be given paycheques, longer tenures: Shah MUMBAI, November 15: The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) has decided to gag the selectors. Its secretary Niranjan Shah defends the move and dwells on a number of others issues too, including a longer term for selectors and of course that elusive full-time coach. Why is there a gag on the chairman of selectors? The media usually asks questions about specific players. It is not easy to explain some of them as it involves other factors too. Also, what is discussed in selection meetings is confidential. The selectors often choose the team keeping in mind the best XI too. There were suggestions for appointing a media manager but even he cannot elaborate on selection matters. So just like other Boards, we have decided to issue a release after such meetings. This is much better than a selector being misquoted. Won’t this only lead to more controversy? The media pays attention to unnecessary things, sometimes very trivial matters. It should restrain itself. While we fully endorse that it has a crucial role, it must not forget this is after all just a game and selectors have their own views about most things. Why then do the selectors have such short tenures? I agree there is a case for selectors to be given longer terms. If the players can have 9-10 years, the selectors too should also have long tenures. This way even they can plan things properly. I have a very open mind on this. It has not yet been discussed at the Board level. Anyway from the next season we are on the verge of making the selectors full-time professionals. He will be paid enough money, just like a coach, to take it up as a full-time job. The tenure is a policy matter and will have to be finalised once a system is put in place. They now have a lot of talent to work with. Yes, we can field a second team now. Look at the players on the bench, Sharma, Tewari, Raina, Pujara, Sehwag, Uthappa, Munaf, Irfan, Ojha, Powar, Parthiv. There are at least 20 sitting on the bench and performing, whenever they get the chance. Even in the Ranji games. The selectors will have to try and provide them chances. Where and how can that happen? The selectors should take a few chances in the not so important series, like the tri-series in Bangladesh in May or the Asia Cup. If you talk of excess cricket, we also have excess talent. Obviously we will not experiment against Australia. But look at Australia, even they took a chance in New Zealand by sending a second string side. They lost, but they were not worried. Will the Board direct the selectors to do so? Unless it’s a policy matter the Board will not interfere in such matters. The selectors must naturally feel in that direction. If there is really so much talent, where are the A tours? We will not play ‘A’ cricket during our domestic season. Once the season is over there are two-three tours lined up. We are in discussion with Australia for our A side to tour there alongwith two-three teams for a Top End series. Next year before our season starts, New Zealand A is also scheduled to come to India. Two-three ‘A’ tours per year are enough. What about a full-time coach? We are looking at it, our president (Sharad Pawar) has already announced we will have a new coach before Australia tour. In the next couple of weeks we would have some movement forward. But if the new coach cannot take charge immediately we could have a cricket manager for Australia tour. The Board came into power with the promise of transparency. Why no sign of it? This criticism is totally unfair. People are talking about professionalism very loosely. Look at our board, only the top four are honorary positions; and they all work hard. Paying a big fat salary is not professionalism. That has just become a fashionable term. We have appointed specific people to look after board departments, more are to be appointed. ------------------------------------------------------------- Don't know how much we should believe this source of interview or whatever that motor-mouth Shah has said. But if it is true, then it certainly is a bad news for Indian cricket.

[beetle]

He suffers from the "I am God"syndrome that most stupid selectors suffer from. Chandan...A few days back this clown Niranjan Shah had declared that team selection meetings will no longer take place at match venue because the selectors get distracted.Just imagine ...they have no problems with the poor players getting distracted. The players whose future is getting decided in the selection meeting at the match venue...but these asses getting distracted is a big problem.

[PaiN_KiLLeR]

who would want to read his column anyway

[arkay]

It is funny that Shah is seeking explanation from Vengy. What would Vengy's response? STFU or go and ask Sharad pawar?

[arkay]

After all, he is writing news article to Sharad Pawar's brother newspaper. All this is just pure hypocracy? I will just ask questions for the record. But I dont expect any response. If the same is do by someone else, he would be taken for task;

[Chandan]

It is funny that Shah is seeking explanation from Vengy. What would Vengy's response? STFU or go and ask Sharad pawar?

Just look at the response: "Selectors threaten to quit BCCI" New Delhi (PTI): In an unprecedented revolt against the Cricket Board's policy to ban national selectors from writing columns, three selectors on Monday threatened to quit their posts if the BCCI persisted with the gag order. The selectors said that they could be forced to relinquish their posts if the BCCI did not lift the ban, giving a dramatic new twist to the ongoing tussle between the BCCI administrators and the selectors. "We are not servants, we cannot be treated in such a way. If such a gag order continues, some of us may step down", one of the selectors told PTI on condition of anonymity. He said chief selector Dilip Vengsarkar, who has been writing newspaper columns for nearly 15 years, was "extremely angry" with the gag order and two of his colleagues also shared his views. "The selectors have been made to look like jokers. While we have been banned from interacting with the media, the BCCI officials have been selectively leaking news. We cannot compromise with our dignity", he said. While the selectors have taken a tough stand, the BCCI said it was not aware of any such development. "The BCCI has not received any communication from the selectors in this regard. We are not aware that they have threatened to quit", BCCI Vice President Rajiv Shukla said. Another BCCI source said that Vengsarkar had sought special permission from the BCCI to continue writing columns. "We are considering his request, but no decision has been taken as yet", the source said. ----------------------------------- So, there you go!!

[beetle]

vengsarkar is pawar's chamcha hence he dares to do this... If the BCCI had the guts...they would throw this good for nothing clown out.

[theguyinallblue]

Selectors are paid now..they are the employee of BCCI...and they too sign a contract.. so selectors can not have multi source of income that too when it conflicts with the present job.. selectors should either select teams..or resign and write columns.. this vengcircus guys was getting bigger than his boot.. he is an attention whore.who wants constant attention.. otherwise why would he socialize with sponsors and other media houses.. recently he went to the house of Yuvraj singh when he was in chandigarh.. we all can imagine...whay yograj would have served him...sharab abd shabab..both..:cantstop: we never hear or see..aussie selectors doing such stuffs.. kick out this muppet...and bring pataudi as chief selector..or sreekant.

[fineleg]

Vengcircus is in the inner circle of Sharab power. Hence the circus-colonel-mongrel is behaving this way.

[theguyinallblue]

FL.. Had this been the case....this storm would not have arise.... don't think pawar is interfering in this matter ...don't know ig vengy goes begging to him.. Vengy should resign .he should understand the seriousness and responsibility of the position he is sitting at..

[Dravid]

chk it out Indian board seeks to squeeze the selectors Anand Vasu November 19, 2007 The board has issued a seven-point guideline to the selectors after Dilip Vengsarkar flouted an oral directive not to write in newspapers © AFP The shadow-boxing between the Board of Control for Cricket in India and the national selectors has escalated with the Indian board issuing a seven-point diktat that seeks to curtail the jurisdiction of the selectors. While the move is widely seen to be aimed at reining in Dilip Vengsarkar, the chairman of the selectors, there are provisions, particularly the one banning selectors from accompanying the team on foreign tours, that have caused dismay among his colleagues. The prime target of the directive, emailed to the national selectors last evening, is Vengsarkar, who had recently been asked to show cause after flouting an oral directive not to write in newspapers. A piece carrying his byline appeared in Sakal, a Marathi daily controlled, interestingly, by the brother of Sharad Pawar, the BCCI president, a couple of days after the gag order. The written communication is unequivocal: "Selectors shall have no association with agents of players nor shall they participate in events organised by the players' agents or contribute articles etc. where such agents are involved. They shall also have no contact with organisations that have interest in the business of cricket in any form whatsoever." Vengsarkar is the only one of the five who has a syndicated column that appears in English through an agency. Another point of contention in the latest ruling from the board is that selectors will no longer be required to travel with the Indian team on their overseas tours. The board recently introduced the practice of one selector being with the team on overseas assignments, but they have gone back on this. The note states: "The Board's constitution clearly defines the selection committee when Indian team is playing in abroad [sic] viz., Captain, Vice Captain and Coach. The Selection meetings will be convened by the Manager of the team. The provisions contained in the Board Constitution shall be strictly observed when Indian team is on tour." The selectors argue that this was unwarranted, and indeed detrimental, because attending matches abroad follows the principle of being present at home matches. "It's important for selectors to be on tour because that's the place we really realise which players are keen to play despite the conditions and which players are not so keen," said one selector on condition of anonymity. "Otherwise we have to go by what the captain, coach and team say and that's not ideal. The player should not just be trying to make it to the squad. He should have something to give when he's asked to perform in tough conditions." The directive also madates that only one selector shall be present at an India home match in an official capacity. The board had recently announced that it would pay the selectors based on the number of matches they watched in an official capacity, and this latest move comes in order to ensure that selectors do not claim allowances or pay for matches they opted to go to despite not being assigned to do so. "Only one selector should watch an International match played in India and who this selector shall be decided by the Chairman of Selectors who will prepare the distribution and convey the same to the Hony. Secretary, BCCI," says the directive. One of the selectors who expressed surprise over this pointed out that it had always been the practice. "Are they worried about more than one up at a match and claim allowances?" he asked, "This shows lack of trust. And if they are so bothered about making everything official, why haven't put the so-called match-fees on paper." The directive also states that the selector shall not sit in the dressing room during the course of an international match, that he shall not write columns in print media or appear on television as an expert, that selectors will not address the press after a team selection and that selectors will attend more domestic matches, especially the Ranji Trophy, as per a rota that is planned and okayed at the start of the season. Vengy can sit his ass at homenow

[putrevus]

Excellent move by the board what is the use of the selectors going abroad on BCCI's expense and create problems for captain and coach , tthey should be concentrating more on domestic front which these weasels dont want to do it becuase there is money and fun involved in it. Why should vengy write a column in newspaper while being selector is beyond me.If he wants to write his articles so much why doesnt he resign and then keep writing his crap in paper.Let them sit their asses in ranji trophy and look for talent on domestic front , they can watch matches on india on tv and assess their talent when india is playing overseas.What is need of all five selectors to be in every match when played in india , one is enough.

[beetle]

Vengsarkar bows to BCCI diktat, stops column November 20, 2007 15:31 IST After being on collision course with the BCCI, chief selector Dilip Vengsarkar seems to have bowed to the Board of Control for Cricket in India's diktat and has stopped writing columns for a Marathi daily owned by BCCI chief Sharad Pawar's [images] brother. - Earlier: Selectors threaten to quit "Vengsarkar has stopped writing his column 'Cover Drive' that used to appear as a preview before a ODI played by India. The last one was scheduled on the day of India's fifth and final ODI against Pakistan at Jaipur (Nov 18) but did not appear," said a source in Sakal newspaper on Tuesday. Vengsarkar and four other selectors have been banned from writing columns or talking to the media by the BCCI but the chief selector defied the gag order and continued to write his column in Sakal. When it was brought to BCCI secretary Niranjan Shah's notice, the official promptly sent a missive to the former India skipper seeking explanation for defying the order. Miffed at the board's directive, sent as a seven-point dos and don'ts, Vengsarkar and a few of his colleagues threatened to quit the post. "We are not servants, we cannot be treated in such a way. If such a gag order continues, some of us may step down", one of the selectors told PTI on Monday on condition of anonymity. He said Vengsarkar, who has been writing newspaper columns for nearly 15 years, was "extremely angry" with the gag order and two of his colleagues also shared his views. :haha:So are they servants now.....?

[beetle]

He has written once again in some paper.....the drama goes on.....

[beetle]

And he has again agreed to not write.....:hysterical:

[beetle]

...and in return BCCI will pay him what he was gtting for his crappy articles.....:hysterical:

[fineleg]

Why is this buffoon not getting sacked? Oh, I forgot he is a Mumbai power-circle guy.

[beetle]

He had a talk with pawar .......you know what that means.