Cricket_Hacker Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 Senior representatives of the RSS and its affliliates in the education sector Thursday asked Human Resource Development Minister Smriti Irani to “correct†the history taught in schools to highlight Indian heroes, and the role played by Hindu culture and its leaders in shaping the country. This suggestion was among the main points raised by 22 representatives of 11 organisations during their meeting with Irani at Madhya Pradesh Bhawan. According to sources, Irani did not promise anything in her response, and spoke only for about 10 minutes, but noted every suggestion and asked for written submissions in some cases. This was the sixth such meeting between Irani and the RSS affiliates since May, and assumes significance with the government yet to decide on policy changes in the sector and with many crucial appointments still pending at central universities, IITs, IIMs and other institutions. “The representatives told the Minister that the future generation should learn the true history of India. They said that what children are now taught is the version the West wanted India to learn. They felt that Indian children were not familiar with real Indian heroes. For example, one of them said today’s children knew little about national heroes from the south,†the sources said. BJP leaders J P Nadda and Ramlal, and top RSS functionaries Suresh Soni, Krishna Gopal and Dattatrey Hosbale were among those who attended the meeting. One notable absentee was Dinanath Batra, who famously forced Penguin India to withdraw American scholar Wendy Doniger’s book “The Hindus: An Alternative Historyâ€. The organisation that Batra heads — Shiksha Bachao Andolan, created by an RSS affiliate Vidya Bharti - was represented by Atul Kothari. The representatives also sought a revamp of the country’s education system, suggesting that the government needs to focus on “quality, competitiveness and affordabilityâ€. They also wanted the ministry to make education more “knowledge-based instead of information-based.†They suggested a review of Jan Shikshan Sansthans (JSS), alleging mismanagement in these district-level resource support agencies. The Indian Express had reported on April 8, 2013 about how a quarter of these Sansthans, approved by the HRD ministry, belonged to leaders of key political parties or their relatives and friends from both the earlier NDA government and the UPA regime that followed. According to sources, the RSS has grouped its frontal organisations under six broad categories — Arthik Samooh, Sewa Samooh, Shiksha Samooh, Suraksha Samooh, Jan Samooh and Vichar Samooh — to interact with the government and BJP. Organisations in these groups started their latest round of interactions Tuesday, with Irani attending Thursday’s meeting with organisations under Shiksha Samooh. RSS’s BJP liasion Krishna Gopal and his predecessor Soni have been a common feature in all the meetings. “This is to give government a proper feedback from the grassroots as our organisations work at the ground level and are aware of ground realities in every sector,†an RSS functionary said. Others who attended Thursday’s meeting include Sunil Ambekar and K Raghunandan of Akhila Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishad (ABVP); B M Pande from Akhil Bhartiya Itihas Sankalan Yojne; Mahendra Kapoor and J P Singhal from Rashtriya Shaikshik Mahasangh; Shiv Kumar from Vidya Bharti; C M Krishna Shastri from Sanskrit Bharti; and Anant Sahasrabuddhhe from Vigyan Bharti. This was also the third such meeting after the BJP-led government and RSS set up a new mechanism to strengthen coordination between the two. “To avoid the kind of tussle that happened during NDA-1, between government and sangh affiliates, we have decided that these meetings will be a regular affair but their frequency is yet to be decided,†said a senior RSS office-bearer. RSS and its affiliates have been pushing for a revamp of the education system ever since the NDA came into power this year. Baba Ramdev had recently proposed a new national school board for “Indianising†the education system, while BJP leaders have spoken about blending the Gurukul system with modern education. In August, Irani said that the education policy, formulated in 1986, has to undergo a course correction to make “Made in India†a “grand†label. “We will initiate a state-wise, region-wise national debate and deliberation to formulate a new education policy,†she said.
randomGuy Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 Specifically add the fact vast majority of Muslims of Indian-subcontinent have Hindu forefathers, Hinduism, Sikhism, Jainism and Buddhism are the religions that originated in India and that Islam originated in middle east, was brought to India by invading armies, add the history of partition, the role of religion, plight of Non-Muslims in Pak etc etc. All the above topics should be highlighted with complete chapters on them in 9th, 10th CBSE history books. Its already 65 years too late. BJP should have this vision and implement it.
Raghav_12 Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 Add that in Ancient India we had plastic surgeons who can do Neck transplant and had auto-pilot aircrafts and drones :hysterical:
FischerTal Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 Should have been just after independence. +1
FischerTal Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 Specifically add the fact vast majority of Muslims of Indian-subcontinent have Hindu forefathers, Hinduism, Sikhism, Jainism and Buddhism are the religions that originated in India and that Islam originated in middle east, was brought to India by invading armies, add the history of partition, the role of religion, plight of Non-Muslims in Pak etc etc. All the above topics should be highlighted with complete chapters on them in 9th, 10th CBSE history books. Its already 65 years too late. BJP should have this vision and implement it. Your trolling is not upto mark sir
FischerTal Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 If they can expose the reality of tipu sultan, job well done
Sachin=GOD Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 Now Indian education will go from one end of bigotry to the other. We need someone/some institution which can be a bit impartial in telling Indian history and RSS is nowhere near that.
FischerTal Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 Now Indian education will go from one end of bigotry to the other. We need someone/some institution which can be a bit impartial in telling Indian history and RSS is nowhere near that. Who do u want? Ps:advani is from rss
Sachin=GOD Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 Who do u want? Ps:advani is from rss I don't know but surely the Govt can find a better source than RSS to edit Indian history for students.
Raghav_12 Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 Now Indian education will go from one end of bigotry to the other. We need someone/some institution which can be a bit impartial in telling Indian history and RSS is nowhere near that. Change the history to declare Hindu Kings were never defeated by Muslims and other invaders. Then ban the Wikipedia in country, ban all other sources which are from outside the country so that people don't have access to any other version. This will ensure that Children grow up believing that Hindus and Indians have been most alpha societies of the world. Job Well Done. :two_thumbs_up: Kachcha Dhari's seem to have taken George Orwell's following quote too literally. "Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past."
Detonator Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 If they can expose the reality of tipu sultan' date=' job well done[/quote'] Not just Tipu Sultan. The lessons about Indian history sometimes look like a dogmatic propaganda.
randomGuy Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 Your trolling is not upto mark sir Strange that you think its trolling when I am speaking my mind.
Detonator Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 Change the history to declare Hindu Kings were never defeated by Muslims and other invaders. Then ban the Wikipedia in country, ban all other sources which are from outside the country so that people don't have access to any other version. This will ensure that Children grow up believing that Hindus and Indians have been most alpha societies of the world. Job Well Done. :two_thumbs_up: George Orwell quote never seemed more relevant. "Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past." That's a downright stupid post dood. You comfortably ignore the one end of bigotry, which S!=G mentioned in his post. It's not about supremacy, it's about telling the truth. For appeasing minorities, the secular history says like the muslim kings are some kind of nobel who purified the barbaric Indian people with their heart of gold. The fact that they didn't come in love with India, but they invaded India for booty gold and committed numerous genocides and mass coversions, should be added.
FischerTal Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 That's a downright stupid post dood. It's not about supremacy, it's about telling the truth. For appeasing minorities, the secular history says like the muslim kings are some kind of nobel who purified the barbaric Indian people. The fact that they didn't come in love with India, but they invaded India for booty gold and committed numerous genocides and mass coversions. When I read tipu sultan as a freedom fighter against the British, wanted to barf but the gullible will believe that surely
Detonator Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 When I read tipu sultan as a freedom fighter against the British' date=' wanted to barf but the gullible will believe that surely[/quote'] Agree. He is not a freedom fighter, he just defended his territory.
gslv Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 If I was Vijay Malaya I would have bought that sword of Tipu and just throw it in Mariana trench. Sick bastard Tipu. And what do you expect when first education minister of India is a muslim.
Sachin=GOD Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 And what do you expect when first education minister of India is a muslim. The first education minister was Maulana Azad - one of the best persons you could have hoped for as education minister.
gslv Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 There were many brains better than maulana azad. He was not the best . Sarbapalli radahakrishnan was one the best.
Raghav_12 Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 That's a downright stupid post dood. You comfortably ignore the one end of bigotry, which S!=G mentioned in his post. It's not about supremacy, it's about telling the truth. For appeasing minorities, the secular history says like the muslim kings are some kind of nobel who purified the barbaric Indian people with their heart of gold. The fact that they didn't come in love with India, but they invaded India for booty gold and committed numerous genocides and mass coversions, should be added. Calm down dood. I have studied in an RSS run school and know what distorted and gutter and logic defying version of history they want us to learn. They'll say all Rajputs, Maratha's and other hindu kings were more brave, more intelligent, more powerful then Muslim invaders but don't explain then how they kept losing. Their text of history eulogizes mass sati tradition which was followed in Rajputana. You have to accept History as it has been. You won't achieve by writing it as you want it to be and won't be possible in today's world unless you put restrictions like North Korea. I don't know which history you read but I read one which clearly mentioned multiple genocides, ,mass murders, forced conversions Muslim invaders carried. But there is not just one side of the history. Britishers did Jalianwala Bag but they gave us Judicial System, Administrative Systems, Railways and many other things. We read about 1857's revolt and their heros in most glorifying terms but how many of us are told that in Kanpur 200 English women and children were taken in custody by Nana Saheb's forces and then all 200's of them were butchered using meat cleavers (this had resulted in atrocious revenge by English forces when they recaptured Kanpur and killed thousands of civilians ruthlessly in mass rampage). History needs to be told as it was. As S=G mentioned, RSS is nowhere near the body which should be allowed any kind of interference in history writing. There may be some imbalances in history as of now, but if RSS's history would bring 10 times more imbalance towards the other side and I know this because I was recipient of their vicious propaganda of 8 long years and that has filled me with repulsion for the organization for rest of my life Lest you would have some doubts about my predisposition, let me declare, for me most sad incident of Indian history was Maratha's defeat to that invader Abdali in Panipat's third war and if I am given a choice to change one incident, just one, of indian history, I'll change the outcome of that war.
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