gattaca Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Apple deleted music that some iPod owners had downloaded from competing music services from 2007 to 2009 without telling users, attorneys for consumers told jurors in a class-action antitrust suit against Apple Wednesday. “You guys decided to give them the worst possible experience and blow up†a user’s music library, attorney Patrick Coughlin said in U.S. District Court in Oakland, Calif. When a user who had downloaded music from a rival service tried to sync an iPod to the user’s iTunes library, Apple would display an error message and instruct the user to restore the factory settings, Coughlin said. When the user restored the settings, the music from rival services would disappear, he said. Apple directed the system “not to tell users the problem,†Coughlin said. To plaintiffs in the case, the move showed how Apple had stifled competition for music players and downloads. They are seeking $350 million in damages in the decade-old suit, claiming Apple’s actions forced them to pay more for iPods. The damages could be tripled under antitrust laws. Apple contends the moves were legitimate security measures. Apple security director Augustin Farrugia testified that Apple did not offer a more detailed explanation because, “We don’t need to give users too much information,†and “We don’t want to confuse users.†Farrugia told the court that hackers with names like “DVD Jon†and “Requiem†made Apple “very paranoid†about protecting iTunes. Updates that deleted non-Apple music files were intended to protect consumers from those system break-ins. “The system was totally hacked,†he said. Apple declined to comment outside of the court testimony. Steve Jobs, the late Apple co-founder, also showed concern about hacking, according to evidence in the case. “Someone is breaking into our house,†Mr. Jobs said of music pirates, according to an email by Apple software chief Eddy Cue listed as an exhibit. Cue and Phil Schiller, Apple’s head of marketing, are expected to testify this week, and portions of a videotaped 2011 deposition of Jobs are expected to be played. http://m.wsj.com/articles/BL-DGB-39221 What a bs argument. Hopefully they get fined millions of dollars.
Old guy Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 They will...these co panties got away with lot of BS and I am happy we are finally seeing some action Also eu Going after Google is good it will keep them in check
Crookbond Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 They will...these co panties got away with lot of BS and I am happy we are finally seeing some action Also eu Going after Google is good it will keep them in check We now know what you were doing while typing this post. :P
Old guy Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 We now know what you were doing while typing this post. :P Just wait till day I sue apple for mass public humiliation :(( You know what not even gonna edit as this is evidence :diablo: Btw do you agree with this ? And eu vs Google ? I actually do think they need to be kept under check and I am into tech ...
Crookbond Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Just wait till day I sue apple for mass public humiliation :(( You know what not even gonna edit as this is evidence :diablo: Btw do you agree with this ? And eu vs Google ? I actually do think they need to be kept under check and I am into tech ... In any capitalism market, there needs to be regulators to keep private companies in check. This kind of sh!t shouldn't be pulled up by Apple. You have no idea how much I hate Apple, Google and some other companies because they of their hiring policies and fixing.
Old guy Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 In any capitalism market, there needs to be regulators to keep private companies in check. This kind of sh!t shouldn't be pulled up by Apple. You have no idea how much I hate Apple, Google and some other companies because they of their hiring policies and fixing. i actually do not know much about this side of their business ...what wrong with their hiring policy ?
Crookbond Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 i actually do not know much about this side of their business ...what wrong with their hiring policy ? One word - Collusion to prevent engineers from changing jobs between the companies. Apple and Google’s wage-fixing cartel involved dozens more companies, over one million employees It is such an extra-ordinary chewtiyagiri that the judge has rejected the settlement offer after both parties agreed to it. Read up on the TL here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust_Litigation On a side note, the judge Lucy Koh is a bad a** She's the same judge who ruled over some of the Samsung-Apple patent law suits. During trial, she made some Hollywood style statements. For example, "I am not going to be running around trying to get 75 pages of briefings for people who are not going to be testifying," U.S. District Judge Lucy Koh told Apple's lawyer Bill Lee. "I mean come on. 75 pages! 75 pages! You want me to do an order on 75 pages, (and) unless you're smoking crack, you know these witnesses aren't going to be called when you have less than four hours," Koh said. :hysterical: http://www.cnet.com/news/judge-says-apples-smoking-crack-with-giant-witness-list/ Here's another one - http://www.cnet.com/news/apple-v-samsung-judge-koh-loses-cool-over-legal-wrangling/
Old guy Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 just did quick read ...basically agreement between companies to not snatch each other's employees right ? what is wage fixing ? do u mean since there is no competition or options for them they can pay them less? also can judge tell parties that settlement is not valid ? this is first time i am hearing
Old guy Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 ok got to end now this explains it perfectly On May 23, 2014, Apple, Google, Intel, Adobe agreed to settle for $324.5 million. Lawyers are seeking 25% in attorneys’ fees, plus expenses of as much as $1.2 million, according to the filing. Additional award payments of $80,000 will be sought for each named plaintiff who served as a class representative.[15] Payouts will average a few thousand dollars based on the salary of the employee at the time of the complaint. In June 2014, Judge Lucy Koh has expressed concern that the settlement may not be a good one for the plaintiffs. Michael Devine, one of the plaintiffs, said the settlement is unjust. In a letter he wrote to the judge he said the settlement represents only one-tenth of the $3 billion in compensation the 64,000 workers could have made if the defendants had not colluded.[16] On August 8, 2014, Judge Koh rejected the settlement as insufficient on the basis of the evidence and exposure. Rejecting a settlement is unusual in such cases. The defendants will now either have to raise their settlement offer or face a trial.[17] and this is why they sued them High-Tech Employee Antitrust Litigation (U.S. District Court, Northern District of California 11-cv-2509 [8]) is a class-action lawsuit on behalf of over 64,000 employees of Adobe, Apple Inc., Google, Intel, Intuit, Pixar and Lucasfilm (the last two are subsidiaries of Disney) against their employer alleging that their wages were repressed due to alleged agreements between their employers not to hire employees from their competitors
Vilander Posted December 5, 2014 Posted December 5, 2014 Hey what happened, is it Apple are we talking about, they can do no wrong. They are da brand. Are we really hearing this ? unbolivable.
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