msb1991 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 bhai im not making it up. there was a panel on this a few years ago which mark Nicholas hosted and all the legends of yesteryears were there. some MCC event But they have an incentive to lie and misremember things. Or maybe someone misinformed told them this information. There is no way that these speeds were recorded at the batsman's end. Thomson would have averaged 15 if he were that fast. I'm pretty sure members of CricketWeb approached the scientist behind it and he said that it was measured at the bowlers crease but heck, you don't need that evidence - watching the video makes it clear where the hi-tech cameras are. Thomson was 147kph after a long ban which means probably peaked at 160kph in his prime and mainly bowled in the 140-150kph region much like Akhtar and Lee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 165kph is ridiculous. Batsmen these days are not comfortable against spells of 150kph+ and the common sense would say that bowling machines and helmets make modern batsmen more comfortable against pace than people in the 1980s. It is nostalgic bullshit to suggest modern batsmen are worse against raw speed. Absolutely. Pitches have become flatter over the years Protective gear has improved tremendously There are bowling machines which batsmen set at 90mph and more and then practice The batsmen have become physically fitter and that increases reaction time etc. All this has reduced the effect of raw pace on batsmen over time and 150 k bowlers these days often do not have the same effect as a 140 k pacer in the 70s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Ishant and Yadav clocked above 150 in the 2011 Aus tour and were at the top of fastest bowlers. Has that happened when they bowled in India? Ishant isnt a genuine pacer. He depends on rhythm. Yadav bowled close to 150 in 2011 in ODIs against WI. Also hit 152 in IPL in 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Thompson is EASILY the fastest bowler of all time. In 1978 there was a fastest bowling competition with all the leading fast bowlers of the time and it was 1.Thompson 2. Holding 3. Imran Khan Thompson was recorded at 147.8km/h. But the interesting thing is that the delivery speed was measured at the point of impact with the bat rather than the point of release as it is done in modern time. And by all accounts, depending on the surface, the delivery slows down by 15 to 20km/h from the point of release to the point it reaches the batsman. So in effect Thompson bowled at a speed well in excess of 160 km/h and prolbably being the fastest delivery ever recorded These speeds were measured at release point. Also, according to Thomson himself, he was coming back from an injury during this tum and that's why he was clocked slower. Holding and Imran were no way as quick as him at his peak. You think Imran was clocking 160, ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmreekanDesi Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 These speeds were measured at release point. Also' date=' according to Thomson himself, he was coming back from an injury during this tum and that's why he was clocked slower. Holding and Imran were no way as quick as him at his peak. You think Imran was clocking 160, ridiculous.[/quote'] this is the video. watch aftter 1 min Thompson says he would be 110mph in modern time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmreekanDesi Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 dont know why it didnt embed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 this is the video. watch aftter 1 min Thompson says he would be 110mph in modern time Shoaib can claim he could have been 120mph on those guns. These are just claims. No one is really sure how accurate those measurements were. Thompson was pacey but 110 mph is a bit of exaggeration nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 this is the video. watch aftter 1 min Thompson says he would be 110mph in modern time Just think...was is possible for average test batsmen to play a 110 mph pacer...without helmets...on fast and bouncy Australian pitches of the 70s ? Just look at the effect Mitchell Johnson created on the English batsmen in Australia, wearing helmets on pitches which were clearly slower than the 70s ,...... bowling 87 mph to 94 mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCGGG Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 Ishant and Yadav clocked above 150 in the 2011 Aus tour and were at the top of fastest bowlers. Has that happened when they bowled in India? High humidity slows the ball down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCGGG Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 Mark Waugh just said he thought Aktars fastest was marginally faster than Lees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msb1991 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 dont know why it didnt embed What is more likely? 1. That Thomson misremebered the experiment or exaggerated his own speed? 2. That batsmen in the past had superhuman reflexes which modern batsmen do not have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelina22 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 We should not think any team as low because every teams would have good effort to win the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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