diga Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 The funniest thing is linking the acts of a few miscreants and generalizing them into "hindutva terror" and then somehow linking them to Modi sarkar. Totally forgetting the ground reality. the title says it all.. bracketing them as hindu nationalsits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 he was given a grant to write a novelised history of the town Tiruchengode and he produces this work.. once it gets translated to english, protests start as the fictionalised novel becomes the actual history of the town http://swarajyamag.com/culture/leftist-media-slanders-rss-bjp-to-uphold-freedom-of-libel/Isnt that the issue? What evidence he got? He should go to Supreme Court, present his evidence and ask Supreme Court to say STFU to all the Swaminathans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 The hindutva outfits are culpable becoz they r the ones (Like Hindu munnani etc) who gave him death threats and carrying out the protest along with pretty non existent party KVP And WTF are these outfits protesting after 4 years the book released ? My dear friend. Tomorrow say I put a banner in the front Yard my property sayin that my "NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOUR's WIFE is A *****" And a arrow Point next door neighbour. What will my neighbour do. First he will protest. Then He eill threaten. Then He will move to court? Isnt it? Alternatively he can just take matters in his hands. All actions are expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Anyone can threaten him. Has there been one instance of attack aimed at causing physical injury at him so far? The state completely failed to protect a person who is claiming to be threatened by some pro hindutva guys but did they? You are talking like pre crime police in Minority Report and blaming people even before a crime has been conducted. The funniest thing is linking the acts of a few miscreants and generalizing them into "hindutva terror" and then somehow linking them to Modi sarkar. Totally forgetting the ground reality. Usually a threat is a precursor to an attack. BTW I'm sure when Charlie Hebdo magazine received threats over the years, some people, just like you are saying here, would have said "anyone can threaten". Again and again you are only blaming the state for not protecting him but the people who actually threatened him. Copies of his books were burned, shops were closed, petition given to arrest him - yeah, it really is difficult to guess who could have threatened him after all this bcoz it certainly could not have been the same people who burned his books, asked for shops to be closed and asked for his arrests, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeautifulGame Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 His name was tipped for the year’s Sahitya Akademi award, a book he wrote in 2010 was translated and published to rave reviews last year - nothing could have gone wrong for Tamil author and literary chronicler Perumal Murugan who belongs to a tiny town in south Tamil Nadu, Tiruchengode. The author however, has been forced to flee from his hometown along with his family over the contents of his book Mathorubhagan which depicts the life of a childless couple a century ago based in Tiruchengode, a town which practiced “traditional free, consensual sex rituals” giving childless couples a one-chance opportunity at continuing their lineage. The children would be god’s own gift to the parents. In the last week of December, groups of people assembled in the town burnt copies of his book and demanded a ban on the book. From threatening, abusive calls made to him to instigative posters put up all across the town, members belonging to Hindutva organisations like the Hindu Munnani and RSS along with caste groups protested resulting in a complete bandh in the village. Following the protests, Murugan issued a clarification and even went to the extent of offering to delete all the controversial part of the book before he took the extreme step. At a peace meeting in Namakkal on January 12, Murugan along with police protection met members of various Hindu outfits and signed an agreement promising to issue an unconditional apology, delete controversial portions in the book, withdraw unsold copies in the market and also not write on controversial subjects which could hurt sentiments of people. Did he have a choice? In a long and poignant letter thanking everyone who helped in his struggle to ensure his freedom to write, Murugan has said that ‘writer Perumal Murugan is dead’ and that despite everything, the issues created by ‘different groups and individuals’ will persist on for his other novels. He writes the status as Perumal Murugan, the person, talking about him the writer. Note: Dear Friends, the information below will remain as my status message for two days. Later Perumal Murugan will be relieved from all social networking site activities. He thanks all the well wishers for supporting him on social networking sites. Pe. Murugan’s release for Writer Perumal Murugan Writer Perumal Murugan is dead. He is not a God to resurrect. He doesn’t believe in re-birth also. The person who lives here after will just be an ordinary cheap editor Pe.Murugan. I sincerely thank the press, media, readers, friends, writers, groups, political parties, party leaders and students who fought in support of Permual Murugan and his freedom to write. This problem will not end with “Madhorubhagan” novel alone. Different groups and individuals will persistently create problems for his other novels too… Hence Perumal Murugan has taken a final decision which is as follows: 1. Apart from Perumal Murugan’s compilations and publication of books, the books, novel, short-stories, essays and poems written by him will all be withdrawn by him. None of his works will be sold to the public anymore. 2. I request the publishers Kaalachuvadu, Natrinai, Adayalam, Malaigal and Kayalkavin who published Perumal Murugan’s books to stop selling them. Pe.Murugan will take care of the necessary compensation for that. 3. Those who have already purchased Perumal Murugans books have all the right to burn them. If anybody has incurred a loss and they approach with the grouse, they will also be compensated with the loss amount. 4. Perumal Murugan will not participate in any literary functions in future. 5. I request all caste, religious groups and political parties not to involve in any protests or create any problems since all the books are withdrawn. Please leave him. Thanks to all! Murugan is not just the author of six novels, he is also one of the most prominent Kongu writers. A strong campaigner against the concept of rote learning which used repetition as a technique for memorisation he even campaigned against schools that propagated this method, said The Hindu in an article by historian*A.R . Venkatachalapathy*. The book which is now surrounded by controversy was first released in 2001. It’s English translation was released in 2014. However, for years after its release, the book offended nobody. According to Murugan himself in an interview with*The Hindu*, caste and Hindu organisations working together were not willing to relent despite him promising to make changes in the book’s next editon. He then said that it was the work of caste organisations running schools in his district looking for an opportunity to start protests against his book up after his campaigns against the rote system and caste practices. A few days back, he issued a clarification reported in another*Hindu*report that stated, “‘Madhorubagan’ only portrayed the sufferings of childless couple, particularly women, and it dealt with the lifestyle dating back to more than a century. “Novels are written on imaginary concepts and no one can say that whatever appeared in them dealt with reality.’” While the world focuses on the importance of freedom of speech, here is a similar situation in which a man has publicly given up everything unable to fight against the forces that are trying to silence him. Different groups and individuals who instigated this fire has refused to die down and along with it may have extinguished future works of a great Tamil writer. http://www.thenewsminute.com/tamils/485 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 ^ Please read post number 5 http://www.indiancricketfans.com/showpost.php?p=3186743&postcount=5 and post number 23 http://www.indiancricketfans.com/showpost.php?p=3186853&postcount=23 Its job of government to maintain law and order. Government should sue him . Its not about choice. You reap what you sow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 A few days back, he issued a clarification reported in another*Hindu*report that stated, “‘Madhorubagan’ only portrayed the sufferings of childless couple, particularly women, and it dealt with the lifestyle dating back to more than a century. “Novels are written on imaginary concepts and no one can say that whatever appeared in them dealt with reality.’” http://www.thenewsminute.com/tamils/485 except that its just not a fictionalised novel , but the novelised history of the town..Read the link which I posted in post 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 people haver every legal right to go to the court and lobby to get book banned. Just like they have a legal right to burn the book they have purchased (legally) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 people haver every legal right to go to the court and lobby to get book banned. Just like they have a legal right to burn the book they have purchased (legally) Of course they do have all these rights but they also have the right to not buy/read a book if they don't like the subject - but these people threaten the author and his family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeautifulGame Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 people haver every legal right to go to the court and lobby to get book banned. Just like they have a legal right to burn the book they have purchased (legally) Why these people didn't find the same book offensive for last 10 years ? And how do u view threatening the author and his family with death threats ? No one would have an issue if they were just organizing peaceful protests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Why these people didn't find the same book offensive for last 10 years ? And how do u view threatening the author and his family with death threats ? No one would have an issue if they were just organizing peaceful protests thats because translation appeared only last year .. isnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeautifulGame Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 thats because translation appeared only last year .. isnt it? So the Tamil people who are all protesting can only read the novel in English ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 thats because translation appeared only last year .. isnt it? Surely some of the protesters would be people who could read the work in the original language? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 So the Tamil people who are all protesting can only read the novel in English ? Surely some of the protesters would be people who could read the work in the original language? My guess is that the protests started only after the universities started using it as an official history of the town Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Why these people didn't find the same book offensive for last 10 years ? And how do u view threatening the author and his family with death threats ? No one would have an issue if they were just organizing peaceful protests 1. moot point. They have the legal right to lobby to get it banned. End of discussion. I do believe the Merchant of Venice was banned in some country because a anti jewish sentiments. How old is that book? 2. That is wrong and people who have done that should be probed and jailed after an investigation. 3. Based on the OP seems the author got depressed after the editor decided to pull the book. So clearly some people do have an issue with even peaceful protests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 and btw is this like those authors who claimed they would leave the country if Modi was elected and still decided to stay when he won a crushing mandate? Seems like a drama queen if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghav_12 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Did the state agree to give him protection? If yes, why then he needs to stop writing? He has the state's support and what more does he need? If no, and that's the reason he stopped writing out of fear to his own life, isn't the state more culpable? As it failed to protect its citizens? so, you fine with groups giving him threats? what state protection means? is any protection 100 %? If protest of these groups is limited to protest then freedom of expression applies to them as much as to writer. But if threat is involved then these people are no different from intolerant groups across the world. The reason that author sought state protection is enough to prove that threats were given and were serious in nature. Now as we know, with sympathetic govt at centre, these groups have got shot in arms and going with their actions unabated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeautifulGame Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 1. moot point. They have the legal right to lobby to get it banned. End of discussion. I do believe the Merchant of Venice was banned in some country because a anti jewish sentiments. How old is that book? 2. That is wrong and people who have done that should be probed and jailed after an investigation. 3. Based on the OP seems the author got depressed after the editor decided to pull the book. So clearly some people do have an issue with even peaceful protests. 1. I more than agree the book should be banned if possible by legal means .But the point is no one found it offensive until these outfits started to polarize the issue .Why do these outfits suddenly find it offense after all these years . Only reason is to gain political milage 3.The author has all his family and property in tiruchengode .And he has to abandon every thing and flee the town becoz of these threats Only way he could return to home was if he agreed to stop writing and withdraw the old books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 and btw is this like those authors who claimed they would leave the country if Modi was elected and still decided to stay when he won a crushing mandate? Seems like a drama queen if you ask me. In his campaign Modi talked about things like protecting freedom of expression etc - lets see what his Govt does to control these Hindu outfits who are threatening an author for writing a book? Seems like empty promises if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 1. I more than agree the book should be banned if possible by legal means .But the point is no one found it offensive until these outfits started to polarize the issue .Why do these outfits suddenly find it offense after all these years . Only reason is to gain political milage 3.The author has all his family and property in tiruchengode .And he has to abandon every thing and flee the town becoz of these threats Only way he could return to home was if he agreed to stop writing and withdraw the old books 1. Again it does not matter when somebody is offended. Maybe people had not read it till then? Who knows. Its for the courts to decide. There is no point in us debating. 3. That is sad. but as i said those who made thread against him must be punished. If he really has given up writing then maybe over time he should sell up and move to a place more appreciative of his writing. If he wants that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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