Raghav_12 Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 Nepal may remove 'secularism' from new constitution http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/south-asia/Nepal-may-remove-secularism-from-new-constitution/articleshow/48242178.cms The world secular has been grossly misused by our Indian politicians and media. India should also do.
Tapioca Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 Completely agree. Religion is the worst thing to happen to mankind. It has been the reason for most number of massacres. Should be banned in the whole world. If religion is not there, we will find other reasons to kill each other. In the 20th century, I guess more people were killed because of nationalism, political philosophies and racism. In 21st, it could be something else (incl religion). Humans are like this only. Motive is not the thing to blame.
Tapioca Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 IMO religions itself should be banned. If God does exist then it would be one God who has created the universe and us. Do you think that there are different type of gods (according to religion) assigned to take care of different groups according to their belief. Why should it be one God ? Why can't there be 20 Gods or 100 Gods ? Why can't it be a group of Gods that created the universe ? Or there could be a committee that chooses a new God every year.
Precambrian Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 If religion is not there' date=' we will find other reasons to kill each other. In the 20th century, I guess more people were killed because of nationalism, political philosophies and racism. In 21st, it could be something else (incl religion). Humans are like this only. Motive is not the thing to blame.[/quote'] Jeez, that's like saying even if we found ways to combat AIDS, people will continue to die due to other diseases. :( Yes WW and all happened. But in the last 50 yrs how many wars have been fought on nationalism name alone without any reference to religion? Especially now that we have most of the world powers having nuclear power deterrent, I highly doubt there will be full scale warfare - add to that economic interdependence. But religion finds a way to make even friends fight each other. With other causes, you'd always expect people to give up at some time and enter into some sort of agreement - wars always end when started on causes like nationalism and all that,one way or the other. But with religion, it never ends.
asterix Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 More :hatsoff: to Nepal... Considering that the small Kingdom country depends mostly on Tourism and Foreign Aid, the decision is more praiseworthy...
Crookbond Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 Jeez, that's like saying even if we found ways to combat AIDS, people will continue to die due to other diseases. :( Yes WW and all happened. But in the last 50 yrs how many wars have been fought on nationalism name alone without any reference to religion? Especially now that we have most of the world powers having nuclear power deterrent, I highly doubt there will be full scale warfare - add to that economic interdependence. But religion finds a way to make even friends fight each other. With other causes, you'd always expect people to give up at some time and enter into some sort of agreement - wars always end when started on causes like nationalism and all that,one way or the other. But with religion, it never ends. Personally, I think religion is just a facade to rile up people - the real reason for killing people is "power".
Tapioca Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 Jeez, that's like saying even if we found ways to combat AIDS, people will continue to die due to other diseases. :( Yes WW and all happened. But in the last 50 yrs how many wars have been fought on nationalism name alone without any reference to religion? Especially now that we have most of the world powers having nuclear power deterrent, I highly doubt there will be full scale warfare - add to that economic interdependence. But religion finds a way to make even friends fight each other. With other causes, you'd always expect people to give up at some time and enter into some sort of agreement - wars always end when started on causes like nationalism and all that,one way or the other. But with religion, it never ends. I wrote that post because Debutant seemed to think that the world will become a peaceful place once religion is banned. I don't have much love for religion, so broadly agree with your points. But still not optimistic that things would improve a great deal even if there are no religions.
RedFever Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 ^ Nobody has problem with other religions, its only one particular religion which is creating all the problems in the world. The world would definitely have been more peaceful had that religion never existed.
div Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 Jeez, that's like saying even if we found ways to combat AIDS, people will continue to die due to other diseases. :( Yes WW and all happened. But in the last 50 yrs how many wars have been fought on nationalism name alone without any reference to religion? Especially now that we have most of the world powers having nuclear power deterrent, I highly doubt there will be full scale warfare - add to that economic interdependence. But religion finds a way to make even friends fight each other. With other causes, you'd always expect people to give up at some time and enter into some sort of agreement - wars always end when started on causes like nationalism and all that,one way or the other. But with religion, it never ends. The world u experience consists of dualities..positive and negative,good and bad,tall and short ,secularism an communalism and so on.So as long as peace exists in this world ,violence will be there.
rkt.india Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 Personally' date=' I think religion is just a facade to rile up people - the real reason for killing people is "power".[/quote'] Agree to an extent. This is the reason, Islam was divided into Shia-Sunni. Power struggle.
Precambrian Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 I wrote that post because Debutant seemed to think that the world will become a peaceful place once religion is banned. I don't have much love for religion' date=' so broadly agree with your points. But still not optimistic that things would improve a great deal even if there are no religions.[/quote'] The term peace is subjective. Peace for someone in Afghanistan could be a week without bombing Peace for a soldier in a war zone is 5 mins of no firing Peace for a bank clerk in Bikaner could be 15 mins of afternoon siesta Peace for a 70 yr old is a morning without constipation I think here we are purely looking at avoiding human vs human conflict resulting in loss of lives over trivial reasons. Trivial as in the sense that such a conflict is never going to make things better from status quo. Conflicts that are driven by beliefs, egos , greed than survival.
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