gslv Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 Christians and Muslims in Nepal are criticizing the draft version of a new constitution that bans religious conversion. Spurred to action by the recent earthquake, Nepal’s government introduced the draft for public comment on June 30, Reuters reported. Religious minorities are concerned about its impact on their religious freedom and the government’s haste to finalize the document as soon as August. Christian Solidarity Worldwide (CSW) warned language about religious conversion in the draft version “fails to allow for choosing and changing one’s faith to be seen as a positive individual choice or as a matter of individual rights, as required and guaranteed by international treaties.†The draft states that “any act which may be contrary to public health, public decency or morality or incitement to breach public peace or act to convert another person from one religion to another or any act or behavior to undermine or jeopardize the religion of each other is not allowed and such act shall be punishable by law.†Martin Dore, CSW’s Nepal advocacy officer, said that would make it “illegal†to change religion, evangelize, or even explain one’s religion—all violations of Nepal’s international agreements. “There is a purpose to stop all evangelism and talking about another faith in the words ‘incitement to breach public peace’ and the banning of ‘an act or behavior to undermine or jeopardize the religion of another,’†Dore said. Nepal’s Hindu Rastriya Prajatantra Party lobbied for the inclusion of a conversion ban and has called for Nepal to become an officially Hindu state again. Hindu nationalists from India also seem to be influencing Nepal. CSW warned in June the vice chairman of India’s Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party met with Nepalese officials and urged them to institute a religious conversion ban. Christianity has been growing in Nepal, with some high-profile converts from Hinduism. But in recent months there has been an uptick in accusations of forced conversions, according to CSW. In 2011, Nepalese lawmakers attempted to make conversion to anything other than Hinduism or Buddhism illegal, according to Open Doors spokeswoman Emily Fuentes. But the legislation was not adopted. Christians and Muslims are minorities in the former Hindu monarchy, which is why both groups want Nepal’s new constitution to keep the nation “secular.†“We want secularism to be institutionalized in such a way that it is an unchangeable provision in the new constitution. We want the constitution to ensure religious rights and form a religious commission,†said C. B. Gahatraj, general secretary of the National Federation of Christians. Muslims also want permission to have their own religious courts. Catholic officials in Nepal also called for the word “secular†to be inserted into the constitution and asked for Christianity to be officially recognized, according to Catholic News Service (CNS). Christians in Nepal currently do not experience “significant†persecution and they are free to start churches, Dore said. But they don’t have legal rights to register their churches, nor can they acquire burial ground. Asia News reported that under the transitional constitution proselytizing was banned, but Nepali citizens could still “express†their faith even through missionary and charity work.
Tiger80 Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 Martin Dore, CSW’s Nepal advocacy officer, said that would make it “illegal” to change religion, evangelize, or even explain one’s religion—all violations of Nepal’s international agreements. How can you ban explaining one 's religion ? If a Bahai is in Nepal and people ask him about his religion , will it be consider illegal if he explain?
Shivaji bhonsle Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 Good. At least Nepal will not become another India.
rageaddict Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 Nepal doesnt want to become a minority appeasing Softie Pussy Nation ( like its Neighbor ) in the future . Good for them
Ironhide Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 Good for Nepal , Vatican money has made many Indian states Christian dominated due to paid conversions, it is astonishing to see the amount Christian missionaries pump in India.
panther Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 Good for Nepal ' date=' Vatican money has made many Indian states Christian dominated due to paid conversions, it is astonishing to see the amount Christian missionaries pump in India.[/quote'] Maybe if the Lower caste were treated better they would have no reason to convert in the first place, let's be honest no Brahman would convert maybe 1 in a 1000 at most.
Number Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 Maybe if the Lower caste were treated better they would have no reason to convert in the first place' date=' let's be honest no Brahman would convert maybe 1 in a 1000 at most.[/quote'] Are they being treated any better now. At least they could get reservations in jobs, education and at a lot of other things but conversions deprive them of it.
rkt.india Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 Conversion should be banned here too. It only creates communal disharmony.
swatpulla Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 Maybe if the Lower caste were treated better they would have no reason to convert in the first place' date=' let's be honest no Brahman would convert maybe 1 in a 1000 at most.[/quote'] You think converting to Islam gives them a better status? This so called "status" in India is a direct consequence of how much money you have. A poor Brahman will be treated like sh*t, and a rich Dalit will have people kissing his @ss.
Shivaji bhonsle Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 Conversion should be banned here too. It only creates communal disharmony. I have no problem in people converting to Christianity as long as they get money and better education. I'll be concerned only if they convert to Islam which has so many radicals. Christians will never demand for a separate country. They are not very serious about their religion either.
Gollum Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 Situation was in dire straits 10 years back when the Maoists took over Nepal. Good to see a nice positive change now. Nepalese people have balls unlike Indians.
amiret Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 Conversion should be banned here too. It only creates communal disharmony. Completely agree . we must also ban Job conversions by Employees . Ignorant and poorly educated Employees often fall victims to forced Job conversions due to allurements and inducements offered by other organizations.
Detonator Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 The draft states that “any act which may be contrary to public health, public decency or morality or incitement to breach public peace or act to convert another person from one religion to another or any act or behavior to undermine or jeopardize the religion of each other is not allowed and such act shall be punishable by law.” I don't think they are trying to supress religious freedom. An individual can still choose his faith at his own choice. Dogmatic religions can go feck themselves.
beetle Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 Good for them. Religious fundoos who have nothing better to do then spread their faith can sell it some place else.Wish we had the guts. People should just mind thei own religion rather than selling it to others by any means. Wow Nepal....:hatsoff: All these idiots who think their religion is better than others should be pushed into the ocean without oars.
rkt.india Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 Good for them. Religious fundoos who have nothing better to do then spread their faith can sell it some place else.Wish we had the guts. People should just mind thei own religion rather than selling it to others by any means. Wow Nepal....:hatsoff: All these idiots who think their religion is better than others should be pushed into the ocean without oars. Ditto
mishra Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 It was allegedly claimed that There was a starical news about Gideons rushing Bibles to Nepal during earthquake. Looks like it had some impact on Nepali population and government.
Texy Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 Pretty much every old American white couple I know, donates their life savings to these missionaries. They have lots of funds to buy new converts. Pretty much every mallu I know in US has a Christian name. Are there any Hindus left in Kerala?
panther Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 Lol if people want to convert what's the problem India is a secular country.
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