Kalia_Test Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 Its your turn to read SLOWLY now. Since Musharaff has been saying rubbish, whats the proof of this that this isn't part of any of his agenda or he wasn't lying? Thats infact a more likely scenerio. Secondly, that statement was about Pakistan helping Kashmiri militants against Indian army oppression. Even if true, if not a news, its a well known fact. Just like Modi claimed India's involvement in Bangladesh partition and providing help to their rebel groups. Providing support to Kashmiri militants and state terrorism in India are different things. Pakistan have moral right over Indian Occupied Kashmir and you must know how Kashmir became part of India when it shouldn't have been. Thats a separate discussion, irrelevant to current incident. All crap. You make idiotic statements and then claim it is irrelavant? Why the **** did you even type the crap? Pakistan has no right over Kashmir. Period.YOU need to know why Kashmir became part of India not us. WE know it very well. We Indians need NO endorsement. Kashmir is part of India. Period. You can go cry a river but it will ALWAYS be a part of India. We can send people over ( that you care about so much ) but not an inch of land. Period again. And Pakistan Occupied Kashmir i.e AJK and GB is also India's. Musharraf was HERO of Pakistan during Kargil but now that he confessed, he has an agenda - Typical brainwashed padosis :hysterical:
Unicorn Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 All crap. You make idiotic statements and then claim it is irrelavant? Why the **** did you even type the crap? Pakistan has no right over Kashmir. Period.YOU need to know why Kashmir became part of India not us. WE know it very well. We Indians need NO endorsement. Kashmir is part of India. Period. You can go cry a river but it will ALWAYS be a part of India. We can send people over ( that you care about so much ) but not an inch of land. Period again. And Pakistan Occupied Kashmir i.e AJK and GB is also India's. Musharraf was HERO of Pakistan during Kargil but now that he confessed, he has an agenda - Typical brainwashed padosis :hysterical: :hysterical: Did I hurt you? :haha: Funny guy. Azad Kashmir and Gilgit is yours? big lol :haha: No one cares how dumb you act, just ask any Kashmiri in Indian Occupied Kashmir what he wants, you will get the answer :--D
Kalia_Test Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 :hysterical: Did I hurt you? :haha: Funny guy. Azad Kashmir and Gilgit is yours? big lol :haha: No one cares how dumb you act, just ask any Kashmiri in Indian Occupied Kashmir what he wants, you will get the answer :--D I know real Kashmiris and not internet Kashmiris and they want to be with India and are sick of Pakistan sending terrorists and trying to create extremists. The few that don't can freely leave the country. And Yes, GB and AJK are also part of India as they were part of Maharaja of Kashmir's region. Or did your media brainwash you as usual. Anyway, feel bad for wasting my time trying to put sense into an idiot.
Unicorn Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 I know real Kashmiris and not internet Kashmiris and they want to be with India and are sick of Pakistan sending terrorists and trying to create extremists. The few that don't can freely leave the country. And Yes, GB and AJK are also part of India as they were part of Maharaja of Kashmir's region. Or did your media brainwash you as usual. Anyway, feel bad for wasting my time trying to put sense into an idiot. Thats why they have been waving Pakistan flag on this eid :haha:
Ironhide Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 No cricket needed with a Terrorist country like Pakistan, ***ers will earn money from us and then send terrorists using same money. PCB is a government organisation, so not much separation.
kosingh Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Thats why they have been waving Pakistan flag on this eid :haha: No, those are the Islamic terrorists
Unicorn Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 No' date=' those are the Islamic terrorists[/quote'] :hysterical: Keep your eyes close. Thats what you are good at :nice:
keith Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Majority of humanity is good, and Pakistanis are no exception. But Pakistan has that overall environment that facilitates extremism. This is where I would blame Pakistan the nation (including the good people). If Pakistan needs out of this mess, there needs to be a cultural cleansing which can only be done if Pakistani people take an initiative. I'm neutral in this, but I find this attitude troubling. You can't blame good people for the actions of bad people. Now sure, there's something to be said for inaction, but that's not what we're talking about here. As for Pakistan being a breeding ground for terrorists...well the culprits for that seem to be (goind down the list, historically) a) the Taliban b) the Cold War c) colonial history d) tribal and ethnic history and d) geography. Seems a bit unfair to blame good people in Pakistan for that.
Ironhide Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 I'm neutral in this, but I find this attitude troubling. You can't blame good people for the actions of bad people. Now sure, there's something to be said for inaction, but that's not what we're talking about here. As for Pakistan being a breeding ground for terrorists...well the culprits for that seem to be (goind down the list, historically) a) the Taliban b) the Cold War c) colonial history d) tribal and ethnic history and d) geography. Seems a bit unfair to blame good people in Pakistan for that. When people allow terrorists to breed on their ground then they are called as Failed countries and Terrorist countries. On the same basis, USA is bombing the Pakistan border areas near Afghan. And regarding this attitude of yours, go and show this attitude to people who have lost their fathers, mothers, wives, husbands, sisters, brothers in repeated terrorist attacks in India from Pakistan, we have sealed the borders even then they try to sneak through all through the year and sometimes succeed. With your comment, i am sure you are not even an Indian, when your country New zealand starts suffering from terrorist attacks from your neighbours regularly then you will understand.
mishra Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 If they are not from air, what right does Indian media have to declare Pakistan responsible within half an hour of an incident without any proof? Media isnt quoting any sources. History makes them speculate it? They are terrorist, yes, In Mumbai attack's case, yes they were from Pakistan, :two_thumbs_up: Atleast some common sense but that doesn't mean that state of Pakistan was breeding them. To stop its land being used against terrorism in Pakistan itself and India as well, Pakistan need cooperation, not this blame game which your politicians so adore. Unless India change its attitude, they Pakistan can't help controlling those terrorists and India unfortunately have to face incidents like this in future. Bhai, Again, We didnt ask you to take Saudis money to establish Madarasa or training Camps. When Indian dies because of pakistani calculation, what do you expect Indian media and establishment to do? Making a threat to Severe sports ties is least they could do.
Unicorn Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Media isnt quoting any sources. History makes them speculate it? Thats a non-professional attitude from your media. The seasoned approach is that unless a news is confirmed, it shouldn't be publicly reported. If they suspect, whats wrong in showing some patience and be sure before saying such stuff on air. Imagine, if it is found out that the terrorists didn't come from Pakistan later on, than it would be embarrassment for both media and unnecessary defamation of Pakistan. :two_thumbs_up: Atleast some common sense Pakistan has always realized that. Contrary to the perception in India, people and both govt. know that Pakistan's land was used for those attacks. Thats what I have been saying all along, you guys only have impression about Pakistan what your media provides you, don't know the realities. Bhai, Again, We didnt ask you to take Saudis money to establish Madarasa or training Camps. When Indian dies because of pakistani calculation, what do you expect Indian media and establishment to do? Making a threat to Severe sports ties is least they could do. Again, how do you know that Pakistan take money from Saudis to establish training camps? Thats the bs your media feeds you. Saudis have nothing to do with this. It all started from Afghan refugees coming in Pakistan during war and with them, those terrorists also entered the country. From there on it all started. Read this for rest of the answer You guys think by taking advantage of such incidents in your country and pressurizing Pakistan would help you, but in longer run, its going to bite you again. Because, as soon as any such as Indian media start reporting this, Pakistan high alert their India border which means that they have to stop the operation against terrorists in Western side. In longer term, those same terrorist against which Pakistan has been fighting against will do such activities in India. Sooner India realize that cooperating with Pakistan is going to help them, better it is.
Austin 3:!6 Posted July 29, 2015 Author Posted July 29, 2015 ^Pakistan is responsible for all terrorist attacks in India. PERIOD
mishra Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Thats a non-professional attitude from your media. Live with their speculation. Cant do much. Indian Government cant stop BBC to speculate that they were from IAK. Pakistan has always realized that. Offcourse, they know when they are lieing. Whole world knows Pakistani ISI/Army lie. Problem is with people who are blinded to believe its rogue elements within ISI or army who aided abetted trained terrorists. Neither army nor ISI can have rogue elements. They are very well disciplined orgs. Again, how do you know that Pakistan take money from Saudis to establish training camps? Not really, Google it. There are reports published by organisations which have put those details. We let you use name of RAW without any denial or acceptance when a terrorist strike happens in Pakistan (either side). If its not Supporting your establishment to use a anti India felling to curb of Islamic fundamentalism then What do you think that is?
Unicorn Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Live with their speculation. Cant do much. Indian Government cant stop BBC to speculate that they were from IAK. Simple answer for me to say is 'live with these attacks then'. As for BBC, they are quote local media during such incidents, believing they are reliable. The its responsibility of Indian media to report things professionally. Offcourse, they know when they are lieing. Whole world knows Pakistani ISI/Army lie. Problem is with people who are blinded to believe its rogue elements within ISI or army who aided abetted trained terrorists. Neither army nor ISI can have rogue elements. They are very well disciplined orgs. No one is lieng. ISI involvement is in Kashmir only. They have nothing to do with these attacks. They serve no purpose. Thats the mentality of you guys to blame everything on ISI. Not really, Google it. There are reports published by organisations which have put those details. We let you use name of RAW without any denial or acceptance when a terrorist strike happens in Pakistan (either side). If its not Supporting your establishment to use a anti India felling to curb of Islamic fundamentalism then What do you think that is? No one use RAW name. There are no such anti-India feelings, atleast Pakistan is better than India in that way.
Guldozer Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 When people allow terrorists to breed on their ground then they are called as Failed countries and Terrorist countries. On the same basis, USA is bombing the Pakistan border areas near Afghan. And regarding this attitude of yours, go and show this attitude to people who have lost their fathers, mothers, wives, husbands, sisters, brothers in repeated terrorist attacks in India from Pakistan, we have sealed the borders even then they try to sneak through all through the year and sometimes succeed. With your comment, i am sure you are not even an Indian, when your country New zealand starts suffering from terrorist attacks from your neighbours regularly then you will understand. And who is gonna ask the fathers, mothers, wives, husbands, sisters and brothers who lost their loved ones in terror attacks in Pakistan? Pakistanis have suffered way more than Indians. But who cares, they aren't from your country so why should you care for them, right? But according to the people here those 'fathers, mothers' etc. are responsible for the death of their children. So kind of you guys. Ignorance...
mishra Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Simple answer for me to say is 'live with these attacks then'. As for BBC, they are quote local media during such incidents, believing they are reliable. The its responsibility of Indian media to report things professionally. . :hatsoff: Outraged over Indian Media speculations, Pakistan Army/ISI execute terrorist strike in India to that kills hundreds of Indians every year, No one is lieng. ISI involvement is in Kashmir only. They have nothing to do with these attacks. They serve no purpose. Thats the mentality of you guys to blame everything on ISI. Airbus A300 hijack was done in Kashmir? Or Mumbai train blasts, Mumbai bomb blasts? Delhi bomb blasts and so on? But whats the point of discussion, when you got your head buried in sand. No one use RAW name. There are no such anti-India feelings, atleast Pakistan is better than India in that way. Really RAW behind terrorist activities in Pakistan: Foreign secretary http://tribune.com.pk/story/886198/raw-behind-terrorist-activities-in-pakistan-foreign-secretary/
Austin 3:!6 Posted July 29, 2015 Author Posted July 29, 2015 And who is gonna ask the fathers, mothers, wives, husbands, sisters and brothers who lost their loved ones in terror attacks in Pakistan? Pakistanis have suffered way more than Indians. But who cares, they aren't from your country so why should you care for them, right? But according to the people here those 'fathers, mothers' etc. are responsible for the death of their children. So kind of you guys. Ignorance... What ignorance? Those were your home grown terrorists who is attacking your people and entire India sympathise with them. Remember the hastag when that school was attacked in Pakistan? #Indiawithpakistan? That is your corrupt governments drawback that it is not able to curtail the terrorists which is crawling in your land. Go and blame you pathetic government which has made Pakistan a failed state and entire world knows it as a terrorist land. But why would we stay quiet when those same terrorists harboured by your army/govt come to India and attack our civilians? There has been dossaire upon dossaire been sent for the Mumbai attacks. What action have you taken on Hafeez Saeed? You guys even released the Lashkar leader Lakhvi from jail. Go and clean your ugly country first. Then come and show your face and we might think of playing a cricket match with you.
swatpulla Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Everyone agrees that an India-Pakistan match is.more than Cricket, we hear that phrase from both sides of the border. So Pakistani brothers here must understand that when politics gets mixed with Cricket, it is only because India-Pak matches are taken as something much more greater than a sport. When we had our peace tours, those matches proved to be a way for our governments to come closer (atleast pretend that way). Today, it's the same thing, just that Cricket is being used to show that we don't want anything to do with you. It could be a right or wrong thing, I won't argue that. But when it came to Indo-Pak Cricket, politics always served as a backdrop, so let's not pretend that its something new.
Unicorn Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 :hatsoff: Outraged over Indian Media speculations, Pakistan Army/ISI execute terrorist strike in India to that kills hundreds of Indians every year, Airbus A300 hijack was done in Kashmir? Or Mumbai train blasts, Mumbai bomb blasts? Delhi bomb blasts and so on? But whats the point of discussion, when you got your head buried in sand. Really RAW behind terrorist activities in Pakistan: Foreign secretary http://tribune.com.pk/story/886198/raw-behind-terrorist-activities-in-pakistan-foreign-secretary/ Lol again that media rubbish. No proofs have been provided by any side of the intelligence agencies or state being involved. (Except Pakistan's involvement in Kashmir and Afghanistan Embassy attack but that was in response of RAW doing its stuff against Pakistan as per US) Your media accuse ISI for everything and ours blame RAW. See the difference in mentality of people. You guys get aggravated and start cursing Pakistan while Pakistanis hardly ever pay heed to that as compared to you.
swatpulla Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Lol again that media rubbish. No proofs have been provided by any side of the intelligence agencies or state being involved. (Except Pakistan's involvement in Kashmir and Afghanistan Embassy attack but that was in response of RAW doing its stuff against Pakistan as per US) Your media accuse ISI for everything and ours blame RAW. See the difference in mentality of people. You guys get aggravated and start cursing Pakistan while Pakistanis hardly ever pay heed to that as compared to you. Pakistanis don't blame India because the terrorists who attack you are home grown. Indians blame Pakistan because the terrorists that attack us are from Pakistan. If those terror attacks were of Naxal origins, no one would blame another country. Why is it so hard to understand? It is not mentality but the truth that's getting you upset.
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