Bigg Brother Posted August 21, 2015 Posted August 21, 2015 In the modern day game it seems likes umpires doesn't give attention on no balls, they only check the no balls when a Batsman gets out?They are getting paid to check no ball when a Batsman gets out? That's really shame, ICC should changes the rules that if a Batsman gets out & if umpires refers to 3rd umpire that shouldn't be allowed, this will make umpires a bit more responsible.Jhonson bowled 6-7 no balls and commies said that not a single one was given.(Two of them were big big no balls.)Marsh took a wicket on big big no ball,same with Finn and Binny today.
rkt.india Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 It tells you that how many no balls umpires used to miss before this. And this is ICC directive to check no balls.
sourab10forever Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 In the modern day game it seems likes umpires doesn't give attention on no balls, they only check the no balls when a Batsman gets out?They are getting paid to check no ball when a Batsman gets out? That's really shame, ICC should changes the rules that if a Batsman gets out & if umpires refers to 3rd umpire that shouldn't be allowed, this will make umpires a bit more responsible. Jhonson bowled 6-7 no balls amd commies said that not a single one was given.(Two of them were big big no balls.) Marsh took a wicket on big big no ball,same with Finn and Binny today. More than 6-7...15 or so.
HippoSucks Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 Johnson bowled around 5-7 uncalled no balls in the first innings and England bowlers (Finn and Wood in particular) bowled about 15 uncalled no balls in the last 2 tests. It looks like the umpires are not even looking for the no ball. Of course you can not blame them entirely because especially with bowlers like Johnson (his hip makes it hard to see if he overstepped) it is difficult to see if the bowler's foot is inside the line. The umpires are standing too far away from the stumps too which hinders their vision. But if they come closer than the angle between their eyes and the white line increases. So they would have to look in a downward direction to check for the no ball and then quickly move their head up to see what happens at the striker's end. The obvious solution to this is having the third umpire check for the no ball every ball.
Vijy Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 Johnson bowled around 5-7 uncalled no balls in the first innings and England bowlers (Finn and Wood in particular) bowled about 15 uncalled no balls in the last 2 tests. It looks like the umpires are not even looking for the no ball. Of course you can not blame them entirely because especially with bowlers like Johnson (his hip makes it hard to see if he overstepped) it is difficult to see if the bowler's foot is inside the line. The umpires are standing too far away from the stumps too which hinders their vision. But if they come closer than the angle between their eyes and the white line increases. So they would have to look in a downward direction to check for the no ball and then quickly move their head up to see what happens at the striker's end. The obvious solution to this is having the third umpire check for the no ball every ball. Would this hamper over rates? If yes, by how much?
sourab10forever Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 Would this hamper over rates? If yes' date=' by how much?[/quote'] Don't think so. The third ump /his assistant can simultaneously check for no balls. If the TV ump sees a no ball , he conveys it straight to the on field ump,no matter if he refers it or not. Won't take much of a time In that case let the on field ump concentrate on what's happening at a strikers end. Looking for a no ball is no longer his duty.He can stand as far back as the bowler wants.Everyone's happy then. For the time being , the rule be that if you continue to bowl no balls like Johnson did, and the ump is unable to see it, the liberty of the ump standing where the bowler wants must be taken away.
Vijy Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 Don't think so. The third ump /his assistant can simultaneously check for no balls. If the TV ump sees a no ball , he conveys it straight to the on field ump,no matter if he refers it or not. Won't take much of a time In that case let the on field ump concentrate on what's happening at a strikers end. Looking for a no ball is no longer his duty.He can stand as far back as the bowler wants.Everyone's happy then. For the time being , the rule be that if you continue to bowl no balls like Johnson did, and the ump is unable to see it, the liberty of the ump standing where the bowler wants must be taken away. If nothing is hampered, then this might be a good way to implement it.
HippoSucks Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 Would this hamper over rates? If yes' date=' by how much?[/quote'] Apparently there is a live camera focused on the pitch from the non-strikers end all the time. All the third umpire has to do is keep watching that and let the on field umpire know if it is a no ball. Surely it can’t take that long.
Vijy Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 Apparently there is a live camera focused on the pitch from the non-strikers end all the time. All the third umpire has to do is keep watching that and let the on field umpire know if it is a no ball. Surely it can’t take that long. Yes, in which case, it ought to be implemented.
HippoSucks Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 ICC not planning to give TV umpires power over front foot no balls The International Cricket Council has no plans to ask TV umpires to assume responsibility for front foot no balls despite last week's Ashes controversy. The issue of bowler's overstepping without being called by the on-field officials was firmly in the spotlight at the fifth Investec Test, with both Steven Finn and Mitchell Marsh denied wickets after the line was checked retrospectively via replay, Finn having had a similar experience at Trent Bridge. Sky television went on to show eight examples of Australia's Mitchell Johnson overstepping without being called, leading to a number of commentators suggesting the TV umpire should assume the job. But ICC general manager, Geoff Allardice, told Press Association Sport: "The ICC is not considering any proposal to move the responsibility for calling no balls to the TV umpire, but it has been looking at new technology that allows the TV umpire to judge the legality of a delivery much faster than he has been able to in the past. "An incorrect no ball could cost the bowling team a wicket, so the umpires have been instructed to call no ball only when they are certain that no part of the foot has landed behind the line. http://www.givemesport.com/620877-icc-not-planning-to-give-tv-umpires-power-over-front-foot-no-balls?autoplay=on
Vijy Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 OP - I fully agree with you. Modern umpires do lack the b***s to do what is right and not what is easy. This is sharp contrast to the good 'ol days when the likes of D**kie Bird, etc. displayed their b***s and independence of spirit.
rkt.india Posted August 26, 2015 Posted August 26, 2015 OP - I fully agree with you. Modern umpires do lack the b***s to do what is right and not what is easy. This is sharp contrast to the good 'ol days when the likes of D**kie Bird, etc. displayed their b***s and independence of spirit. so you sure those old umpires didnt miss no balls?
India-KXIP fan Posted August 26, 2015 Posted August 26, 2015 :omg: Jhonson bowled 6-7 no balls amd commies said that not a single one was given.(Two of them were big big no balls.
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