what hogwash by ICC: ICC rates Nagpur pitch as "poor" - investigation to be done

[moniker]

The only pathetic defense from the indian side seems to be ...we have a right to doctor our pitches because teams get out for poor totals in other countries too.

 

Thank god we have neutral umpires now , Otherwise the likes of that great Indian match-winner - Umpire Jayaprakash , would not have allowed SA to cross single digits.

 

 

The defense is not that India should do this just because others do. Posters here have pointed out the instances where abnormally pace friendly pitches were laid out in England, SA etc to show the hypocrisy of the authorities who have been extremely inconsistent in their decision making of what pitch they flag as "poor".

The reason is simple - everyone gets their share of home advantage to make away tours a challenge and add flavor to the proceedings. Constantly clamouring about "pitch doctoring" isn't going to make the practice look evil. Both sides play on the same pitch - This is in no way comparable to umpires giving favorable decisions to one side.

[G_B_]

The very fact that South Africa got 79 in their first innings and 185 in their second innings should tell you bad shot selection was the reason for their demise. If the pitch was truly that bad then its a miracle how SA nearly doubled their score in the second innings. Does that mean the Nagpur pitch got better with time?

 

Nobody seems to be talking about SA improving their score. Is  it the fault of India, SA played some totally shit shots?

The Bangalore pitch was good. But SA still got out for 215. What exactly do people want? India to pay cause SA cant really play spin? 

As somebody mentioned India got in trouble against Morkel in the first innings. How is that an excessively spin laden pitch? 

Edited December 2, 2015 by G_B_

[HippoSucks]

This is pure BS. Nobody has a problem with extreme swinging conditions in England n Newzealand. but if there's India involved, you have to be biased

Swinging conditions aren't related to the pitch so according to ICC"s criteria (in the 2nd post on this thread) they can't be called a bad pitch.

 

[MechEng]

ICC should even 

The ICC's pitch and outfield monitoring process in 2010 states that a pitch is said to be poor if  any of the following apply:

• The pitch offers excessive seam movement at any stage of the match
• The pitch displays excessive unevenness of bounce for any bowler at any stage of the match
• The pitch offers excessive assistance to spin bowlers, especially early in the match
• The pitch displays little or no seam movement or turn at any stage in the match together with no significant bounce or carry, thereby depriving the bowlers of a fair contest between bat and ball.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-south-africa-2015-16/content/story/946137.html

Excessive seam movement at any stage of the match  is one of the conditions for a poor pitch. We have seen quite a few such pitches over the years in England, South Africa  New Zealand etc.. Has the question regarding the pitch being poor been raised in such cases ?

 

Old Trafford 2014, when India were 8/4 at one point. I remember watching the test live, massive seam movement.

[express bowling]

ICC should even 

 

Old Trafford 2014, when India were 8/4 at one point. I remember watching the test live, massive seam movement.

But nobody raised any questions about that pitch. Big hypocrites... some of these overseas experts   

[G_B_]

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