What is the reason behind these rank turners?

[LordPrabhzy]

14 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

The reason is that we can't outplay Aussies on seam friendly pitches as they have better pacers and pace bowling all-rounders. We can't outplay Aussies on flat wkts coz they have a deeper batting lineup with Starc coming in at 9! Even Hazlewood who bats at 11 is no rabbit with the bat. That leaves turners as the only option coz we have the best spin bowling attack and supposedly the best players of spin.

1. No we dont ( only if its a lottery pitch)

 

2. And ha ha no we absolutely dont. IPL has destroyed young indian batsmen ability to play spin in longer formats. result- batting collapses against even the most average overseas spinner.

 

get your head out of the cloud. We only did well because of Kohli's knocks, the whole team cannot rely on him all the time and now that he fails, the whole team fails while batting.

Edited March 4, 2017 by LordPrabhzy

[kira]

3 minutes ago, Fool said:

For those of you who cant understand the basis of this thread.

 

1. Offer reasons/theories as to who is responsible for these pitches being developed 

2. Understand the common knowledge that this IS a conspiracy.

3. Everyone knows india are a better team so no point in mentioning performance of either team, these things are not relevant.

 

If these rules are followed then we will uncover the truth about these pitches that we are all desperately searching for.

Another brainless response.

 

Clarification for other brain dead posters:-

 

This thread was created because the last 6-7 tests before this series against england and bangladesh were absolute roads with 750 being scored in one of the matches, so it is very surprising that India would suddenly change the tried and tested formula from the previous 2-3 series and suddenly opt for absolute rank turners for no freaking reason, knowing fully well that our modern day batsmen are absolutely shyte against spin

[Ultimate_Game]

14 minutes ago, CG said:

India has always done well on Green pitches as such pitch reduces the gap between Pacers.Similarly Turners reduce Gap between Average and Good spinners.Flat tracks suit india as indias batting is deep too particularly on flat tracks as ashwin and jadeja  bat well on flat tracks .Even that advantage is negated and Sloggers like starc get advantage.

It's a misconception that India has "always" done well on green pitches. India may have won isolated matches here or there (Headingley, one or two in SA, WACA) but have lost much more. Didn't we get bowled out for 66 and 100 in SA? Didn't we get white-washed in Eng in 2011 and 2014? Hell we were blanked 2-0 in NZ in 2003 when the greenest of green wkts were prepared. We still haven't won a series in SA and Aus and winning away from subcontinent (except WI) is still a big achievement. If we have "always done well" on green pitches then pray tell me how do we have such poor record away from sub-continent? Winning isolated games here and there every few years is not the definition of "always done well on green pitches".

Edited March 4, 2017 by Ultimate_Game

[Ultimate_Game]

7 minutes ago, kira said:

So you think we deliberately prepared these rank turners, cool, that's the kind of response I was looking for, although I don't necessarily agree with this, the team management must have lost all their brain cells if they asked for another rank turner in bangalore after what happened in pune.  

 

We would have destroyed them on flat tracks, this aussie batting line up is very inexperienced and Indian flat tracks are not the same as australian flat beds, rank turners have never been our advantage, we even gave a 6fer to clarke with the fab 5 in the team, so we can't really claim to outplay australia on rank turners, Slow turners and flat tracks are our strength  

Yes I do believe the B'lore pitch was prepared the way it is deliberately for the reasons I mentioned above. We can't compete with Aussies pacers or their batting firepower on a flattish wkt and the fact we are playing catch up after losing the first test, we had no option but to prepare a "result" wkt here. And the only "result" wkt we can prepare against Aussies is a turner.

[Ultimate_Game]

5 minutes ago, LordPrabhzy said:

1. No we dont ( only if its a lottery pitch)

 

2. And ha ha no we absolutely dont. IPL has destroyed young indian batsmen ability to play spin in longer formats. result- batting collapses against even the most average overseas spinner.

 

get your head out of the cloud. We only did well because of Kohli's knocks, the whole team cannot rely on him all the time and now that he fails, the whole team fails while batting.

There's no denying the fact that with Ashwin and Jadeja (and backed by Jayant in some cases) we have the best spin attack in Tests. Both Ashwin and Jadeja are ranked higher than any other spinner in tests which proves my point. As for the 2ns point I guess you missed the sarcastic "supposedly" in my original comment.

[rahulrulezz]

Wow and I thought our Pakistani brothers whine most of the time. 

Can we please give credit to Aussies please. These pitches are perfect as Aussie batters have shown us too. These pitches are to our strength and are perfect , but for some reason we haven't been able to apply ourselves. 

STOP BLAMING THE PITCHES YOU WHINERS!!

[Fool]

3 minutes ago, kira said:

Another brainless response.

 

Clarification for other brain dead posters:-

 

This thread was created because the last 6-7 tests before this series against england and bangladesh were absolute roads with 750 being scored in one of the matches, so it is very surprising that India would suddenly change the tried and tested formula from the previous 2-3 series and suddenly opt for absolute rank turners for no freaking reason, knowing fully well that our modern day batsmen are absolutely shyte against spin

 

Im well aware of what the thread is about. 

 

I was helping 

 

Reading isn't really a strong suit of yours is it? Good at continual talking. Not so good at absorbing information that didn't originate from you.

[kira]

Just now, rahulrulezz said:

Wow and I thought our Pakistani brothers whine most of the time. 

Can we please give credit to Aussies please. These pitches are perfect as Aussie batters have shown us too. These pitches are to our strength and are perfect , but for some reason we haven't been able to apply ourselves. 

STOP BLAMING THE PITCHES YOU WHINERS!!

Another brain dead response, it is like people just don't read the thread 

[Ultimate_Game]

6 minutes ago, kira said:

Another brainless response.

 

Clarification for other brain dead posters:-

 

This thread was created because the last 6-7 tests before this series against england and bangladesh were absolute roads with 750 being scored in one of the matches, so it is very surprising that India would suddenly change the tried and tested formula from the previous 2-3 series and suddenly opt for absolute rank turners for no freaking reason, knowing fully well that our modern day batsmen are absolutely shyte against spin

England and B'desh are no match for Aussie batting lineup on a flattish wkt. They have likes of Warner, Smith and company who will score 600+ nearly every time on flat wkts. Starc coming in at 9 is good enough to score a 100 and Hazlewwood at 11 is better than most of Test teams' no. 8 or 9. You are not going to win "Bat offs" against Aussies on a flattish wkt so you have to go with turning tracks.

[kira]

1 minute ago, Fool said:

 

Im well aware of what the thread is about. 

 

I was helping 

 

Reading isn't really a strong suit of yours is it? Good at continual talking. Not so good at absorbing information that didn't originate from you.

And I am also well aware what you were trying to do, don't teach the master

[kira]

Just now, Ultimate_Game said:

England and B'desh are no match for Aussie batting lineup on a flattish wkt. They have likes of Warner, Smith and company who will score 600+ nearly every time on flat wkts. Starc coming in at 9 is good enough to score a 100 and Hazlewwood at 11 is better than most of Test teams' no. 8 or 9. You are not going to win "Bat offs" against Aussies on a flattish wkt so you have to go with turning tracks.

I get what you are saying but I don't agree with your opinion, I don't think this aussie batting lineup is even half as good as england, warner absolutely sucks in India, Indian flat tracks are not the same as aussie flat tracks,  you see starc at 9 but you don't see shytes like wade, marsh in the middle order, but if India did follow your line of reasoning then they surely should have learnt a lesson from pune. 

[rahulrulezz]

8 minutes ago, kira said:

Another brain dead response, it is like people just don't read the thread 

 

 

3 hours ago, kira said:

 

We have a much much better chance of winning on flat pitches anyway, rank turners are always a lottery, Is there a bigger conspiracy theory behind these pitches?

Dude, are you a retard. 

[Ultimate_Game]

1 minute ago, kira said:

I get what you are saying but I don't agree with your opinion, I don't think this aussie batting lineup is even half as good as england, warner absolutely sucks in India, Indian flat tracks are not the same as aussie flat tracks,  you see starc at 9 but you don't see shytes like wade, marsh in the middle order, but if India did follow your line of reasoning then they surely should have learnt a lesson from pune. 

Warner and company suck only on turning tracks. If you give them a flattish wkts 9even the Indian ones) they will smash you. Their batting lineup is so long and deep you can't realistically expect to contain them on Indian flat tracks. This time round Aussies have done their homework and learned from their last tour. And all credit to them. Job well done by Aussies and good on them.

[kira]

1 minute ago, rahulrulezz said:

 

 

Dude, are you a retard. 

Thanks for your contribution, now move along 

[rahulrulezz]

1 minute ago, Ultimate_Game said:

Warner and company suck only on turning tracks. If you give them a flattish wkts 9even the Indian ones) they will smash you. Their batting lineup is so long and deep you can't realistically expect to contain them on Indian flat tracks. This time round Aussies have done their homework and learned from their last tour. And all credit to them. Job well done by Aussies and good on them.

Don't bother explaining him. He thinks Aussie is gonna bundle out for less than 200 on a flat pitch. He doesn't realize that Aussies will smack us right left and centre on a patta pitch. We stand best chance on a turner. 

[kira]

4 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

Warner and company suck only on turning tracks. If you give them a flattish wkts 9even the Indian ones) they will smash you. Their batting lineup is so long and deep you can't realistically expect to contain them on Indian flat tracks. This time round Aussies have done their homework and learned from their last tour. And all credit to them. Job well done by Aussies and good on them.

lol do you seriously believe that, I hope we get a flat track in ranchi so that we can bust this myth once and for all, sure the aussies will score more runs on a flat track but they aren't even close to england's batting strength in these conditions

[kira]

2 minutes ago, rahulrulezz said:

Don't bother explaining him. He thinks Aussie is gonna bundle out for less than 200 on a flat pitch. He doesn't realize that Aussies will smack us right left and centre on a patta pitch. We stand best chance on a turner. 

Another display of your non existent brain cells 

[Ultimate_Game]

1 minute ago, rahulrulezz said:

Don't bother explaining him. He thinks Aussie is gonna bundle out for less than 200 on a flat pitch. He doesn't realize that Aussies will smack us right left and centre on a patta pitch. We stand best chance on a turner. 

Couldn't agree more. As I said earlier I take my hat off to Aussies for absorbing the lessons learned from previous tours and being good enough to perform in the middle. Pitches are not the problem. It's our performance which is. As for Aussies they showed how prepared they are for this tour whereas we expected them to roll over on a turner.

[Ultimate_Game]

2 minutes ago, kira said:

lol do you seriously believe that, I hope we get a flat track in ranchi so that we can bust this myth once and for all, sure the aussies will score more runs on a flat track but they aren't even close to england's batting strength in these conditions

Yes I do. On a flat track there's no batting lineup in the world which is stronger than Aussies.

[Fool]

16 minutes ago, kira said:

And I am also well aware what you were trying to do, don't teach the master

What exactly are you the master of? Every one of your 6000 predictions today was dead wrong.