Why cant there be another Bradman again??

[dial_100]

Bradman is talked of so much. So I am curious to know your thoughts on why cant we have some Balga or Sri Lankan or from anywhere not score @100? Why it is not possible to score @100 consistently for 50 test matches or 100 innings... Please discuss the valid points....no freaking comparisons...For all that go to other threads...

[ShahidAfridi]

Flat pitches Poor bowling line ups Slip Fielders were like Danish Kaneria Afridi bats low down the order so he dont have time to play himself in

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[vvvslaxman]

Suddenly far too many Bradman threads lol. Fact that he is still being considered a reference point is a testimony to his domination in his era.

[dial_100]

Suddenly far too many Bradman threads lol. Fact that he is still being considered a reference point is a testimony to his domination in his era.

Right...now how about contributing on the OP please?? :eyedance:

[yoda]

Another Bradman doesn't mean scoring @ 100 which is made very difficult as BB has mentioned above. Question for me is can we have another Bradman who can be head and shoulders above his competition that there isn't even a discussion as to who is the best. For those who say that such blow away performances aren't possible in such a modern competitive era, I say it is possible as evidenced by other pro sport (both team and individual) where a few individuals have simply blown everyone else away.

[dial_100]

http://indiancricketfans.com/showthread.php?t=214457 1. Quality strike bowlers (As in sub 25 avg , sub 55-60 strike rate ) There aren't many left now 2. Good super fast express bowlers who bowl regularly in the 87+ mph category. Only 1 or 2. But Phast bowling is overrated anyway 3. Quality spinners( Like Warne, Murali, Kumble , Bedi ,Chandra etc) There are no Kumble, Murali or Warne anymore 4. Playing conditions such as those in different countries India, Pak, SL, SAF,WI Agree...they have to cope up with different conditions in a very short time 5. Reverse swing. Hardly couple of bowlers who can reverse 6. Quality of Fielding. Indeed a big factor 7. Switching between various formats of the game.(ODI/T20 to Tests and vice-versa) hmm..yeah may be...but what if someone decides not play ODIs and Twantee 8. Many First class Practice matches during the Test Series. With tight schedules this will be impossible 9. Busy Schedules with lots of traveling. Travelling is quite easy as long as 1 takes good rest. 10. Umpires being Not very pro-batsman for lbws. Okay. May be review system takes care of it Anyone who understands the basic mechanics of batting will understand that the above criteria dictate how many runs a batsman can make. These were all absent during 30s because they are a product of cricketing evolution over time. Simple things like deliberately slowing things down to disrupt the batsmans flow were unheard of in those days. Never mind sledging and confrontational attitudes. They kept bowling at 110-120 overs per day. That simply wont happen today. Whether anybody likes it or not thats the reality of current day cricket. We simply need to get on with it. Now once in a while most of these things are absent - typically happens when a good side plays a rank minnow. You will notice that the really good batsmen literally plunder runs.

Yeah...many of the 5 day games would end up with as many as 540+ overs

[dial_100]

Another Bradman doesn't mean scoring @ 100 which is made very difficult as BB has mentioned above. Question for me is can we have another Bradman who can be head and shoulders above his competition that there isn't even a discussion as to who is the best. For those who say that such blow away performances aren't possible in such a modern competitive era, I say it is possible as evidenced by other pro sport (both team and individual) where a few individuals have simply blown everyone else away.

Well average of 100 means bunch of centuries. We know for sure, it was not possible for modern greats. Even a guy like Hussey who started with the average of 70 in first 25 games is now way down even below 50 average in next 25. So my real question is, whether it is humanly possible considering modern cricket to achieve what Bradman did. why NOT??

[Gunner_Mania]

Apart from everything else BB mentioned there is also the fact that most people know a batsman's weakness even before they make their international debut. Technology provides them with videos and all the analysts to anylse a players weakness and plan for him accordingly.

[King Tendulkar]

I am tempted to start another thread "Why cant there be another Lohmann again?" Why is not possible to average 10 with the ball again?

[Gunner_Mania]

I am tempted to start another thread "Why cant there be another Lohmann again?" Why is not possible to average 10 with the ball again?

Go on then..I dare you..

[King Tendulkar]

Go on then..I dare you..

Nah cant be bothered

[dial_100]

DSR....let us find out first if it is even possible to achieve what DGB did. If not what could be at par average. If "Above all peers" can be the criteria to judge then how far above would be enough?? Even if you come down half way the difference. Where in the hell do you find this guy who can score @75 in 100 innings... with not 30 but near 25 100s.

[zen]

Is there a wonder that a career avg of 100 is considered as the holy grail of batting? Let alone a career avg of 100/inning, it's rare to find people avg 100 runs / test. Beside being supremely talented, you probably need the ability to be at your precision best most of the time, which is something that is very difficult to do One can give all sorts of excuses as to why it is so hard to achieve an avg of 100 but the point is that if you think you are truly exceptional and want to be remembered as the greatest (and not amongst the greats) then no matter what the challenges, you should be able to encounter them. And that's easy to say but difficult to do, that's why we only have one individual who has managed to achieve this in the long history of cricket and which is why he is considered the greatest! Trivia: Batsmen ranked by their averages (min qualification 2000 runs) LINK

[kumble_rocks]

Another Bradman doesn't mean scoring @ 100 which is made very difficult as BB has mentioned above. Question for me is can we have another Bradman who can be head and shoulders above his competition that there isn't even a discussion as to who is the best. For those who say that such blow away performances aren't possible in such a modern competitive era, I say it is possible as evidenced by other pro sport (both team and individual) where a few individuals have simply blown everyone else away.

Good point. Even in Baseball , we had Babe Ruth who was head and shoulders above the competition during his time with both the bat and ball. In the modern era , it's unheared of to have a player excel with bat and ball. In fact , pitchers can hardly bat ...

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[dial_100]

Steyn, Finn, Amir, Asif, Dougie , Hilfenhaus followed by the next tier of Johnson, Malinga , Morkel, Broad, Anderson , Zak, Swann, Harbi , Vettori, Mendis even Shakib are more than handy bowlers. While they may not prevent the really good batsmen from avging in high 50s but they are certainly not a bowling attack that you can score at 100per inngs in every test match. While Ambrose,Walsh, Bishop, Donald, McGrath, Ws, Gillespie, Shoaib Polly , Warne, MuMu had the powers to really put abrupt end to otherwise promising careers and knock down significant chunks from batting avgs ...the current lot listed above is certainly not a bunch of trundlers.

Boss. I agree. So what would be the average you think if one manages to achieve should be considered at par with DON?

[maniac]

I guess Bradman did not have any kids or siblings...Sad to see there won't be another bradman again

[yoda]

Steyn, Finn, Amir, Asif, Dougie , Hilfenhaus followed by the next tier of Johnson, Malinga , Morkel, Broad, Anderson , Zak, Swann, Harbi , Vettori, Mendis even Shakib are more than handy bowlers. While they may not prevent the really good batsmen from avging in high 50s but they are certainly not a bowling attack that you can score at 100per inngs in every test match. While Ambrose,Walsh, Bishop, Donald, McGrath, Ws, Gillespie, Shoaib Polly , Warne, MuMu had the powers to really put abrupt end to otherwise promising careers and knock down significant chunks from batting avgs ...the current lot listed above is certainly not a bunch of trundlers.

But batting techniques have improved also over time. Are you saying they have not improved enough to counter the improved bowling?

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