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By 2050, India to surpass Indonesia, will have largest Muslim population: Study

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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/By-2050-India-to-surpass-Indonesia-will-have-largest-Muslim-population-Study/articleshow/46790174.cms?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=TOI This news isn't for the faint hearted, the day we all dreaded to see will occur in our lifetimes :(( - Muslims are projected to grow faster than the world's overall population and that Hindus and Christians are projected to roughly keep pace with worldwide population growth, the report said. - The report predicted that by 2050 there will be near parity between Muslims (2.8 billion, or 30 per cent of the population) and Christians (2.9 billion, or 31 per cent), possibly for the first time in history. - If the trend continues, Islam will be the most popular faith in the world after 2070, it said. - By 2050, Muslims will make up about 10 per cent of the Europe's population, up from 5.9 per cent in 2010. :nervous: More terror activities, more ISIS type organizations, more Burkhas, more clash of cultures, more mass killings of minorities in Islamic nations... are we heading for an all out war between the Islamists and rest of the peaceful world? 33f3zmd.jpg Coming to India poverty/education isn't an excuse because even in well off states like Kerala they have shown a significant increase in population. Why is it that they are increasing at such a rapid rate? More children or conversions? Can illegal immigration to India really make such a huge difference in % points? Haven't seen Muslim folk in India convert as frenetically as Christian missionaries. But their women do seem to marry at an extremely young age and avoid going to work, could that be a possible reason? :fear: Is it time to stop declaring them as a minority in India? With their aggressive unified voting patterns, capacity of violence, India's confused stance w.r.t secularism and India's fragile neighbourhood isn't it right to assume that they are the ones holding the aces in India.

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This report also says that Hindus continue to be dominant majority in India with 77% population, not hugely different from current 80%. Hinud's percentage in global population would continue to remain same as 15 % and they would become third largest religious group in the world. This study should puncture some of chaddi agenda, that support us else Muslims will rule India in few years.

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]This report also says that Hindus continue to be dominant majority in India with 77% population' date=' not hugely different from current 80%[/b']. Hinud's percentage in global population would continue to remain same as 15 % and they would become third largest religious group in the world. This study should puncture some of chaddi agenda, that support us else Muslims will rule India in few years.
Where does the above article say that Hindus will be 77% of the population in India? I can't seem to find it. Making up numbers are we? :winky: Hindus making up 14.9% of world population is mentioned I agree.

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Where does the above article say that Hindus will be 77% of the population in India? I can't seem to find it. Making up numbers are we? :winky: Hindus making up 14.9% of world population is mentioned I agree.
lol.. http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/india-will-surpass-indonesia-to-have-biggest-muslim-population-by-2050/article1-1333402.aspx
“By 2050, the study projects India to be the country with the largest number of Muslims – more than 310 million – even though Hindus will continue to make up a solid majority of India’s population (77%), while Muslims remain a minority (18%),†Pew Research Center said.
Of-course most of current Indian Media will publish only which helps right wingies propagate their agenda. ToI choose to ignore some relevant piece of information about Indian demography as it nips the agenda of sanghi's.

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lol.. http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/india-will-surpass-indonesia-to-have-biggest-muslim-population-by-2050/article1-1333402.aspx Of-course most of current Indian Media will publish only which helps right wingies propagate their agenda. ToI choose to ignore some relevant piece of information about Indian demography as it nips the agenda of sanghi's.
OK I only saw the ToI article(in the OP). 18% Muslim population is quite healthy, in 100 years time they may reach the critical 25-30% threshold and then we will see what is happening in present day Nigeria or another partition. Right wing elements have every reason to be alarmed.

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This report also says that Hindus continue to be dominant majority in India with 77% population, not hugely different from current 80%. Hinud's percentage in global population would continue to remain same as 15 % and they would become third largest religious group in the world. This study should puncture some of chaddi agenda, that support us else Muslims will rule India in few years.
In 1947 muslims were 25% of population and they managed to break India and perpetrate unimaginable horrors on Hindus. So, a majority is not needed for muslims to become violent and demand their Darul-islam. India is looking at another partition before the end of this century.

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In short, India will become a gutter by that time. Involved in the bloodiest civil war in the history between Hindus and Muslims ( Supported by Muslim Pakistan). Partition would not be the worse thing to follow suit as long as the last remaining believer is deported to the green land. Then put a complete ban on the ideology to avoid the spread of cancer in the future.

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The solution to religious problems is to make a country move away from religion. Look at Afghanistan in 1970 and now. look at Iran in 1970 and now. Pakistan was progressive till 70s and 80s after which radicalization started big time (if I am not wrong). 30 years is a long time and things can change completely. What India needs is not a Hindu rashtra but a country where all religions are kept away from state policy as much as possible and appeasement of all religions are stopped. 300 years back, no one would have thought slavery would be abolished. A progressive country like USA had slavery. But now things are different. Christian elements at one point of time were as rigid and violent as Islamic elements but things changed. I expect the same to happen with those crazy Islamic elements (ISIS, Taliban, etc) too in the next 30-50 years. All developing countries in the world needs to usher into a new era where religion is someone's private business and no appeasement is followed for anyone. We Indians are funny. We appease the Muslims for votes but we ignore the real problems of those who need help. Some of the most downtrodden communities in India are Muslim communities and we need to help them out. Going towards the right side (Hinduism) is not the solution. Moving away from religion is IMHO.

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Some of the steps: 1. Bring in Uniform Civil Code 2. Stop this ban on cow slaughter to appease Hindus 3. Stop banning books or movies that offend any religion 4. Cartoons shouldn't be banned just cos one community finds it offensive (of course, truly hate filled cartoons must be dealt differently as they may be offensive to whichever religion/person it targets) On one side, we will have appeasement of communities and on other side, we have fear mongering on how so and so community will destroy us. If you create solid rules, law and order situation and ruthlessly implement it, India can go a long long way. We need a true visionary for this.

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By 2050, 90% of Muslims would be non extreme guys (the extreme ones shall fight and kill each other anywaus), so not worried too much. People forget there are factions within Muslims, modernists, progressive guys as well. People who have realised the value of family planning and all that.

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Excellent news. We need more peaceful muslims in the world and not extremist Jihadis/terrorists. Indian muslims have always been role model for other muslims to follow. As the visionary leader Tarek Fateh says - India is the only country where Muslims exert influence without fear. Excellent interview that puts out facts for people who have a bit of time to read http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/interviews/Tarek-Fatah-India-is-the-only-country-where-Muslims-exert-influence-without-fear/articleshow/19619612.cms?

As a Muslim, i found it fascinating that this is the only place in the world where Muslims exert influence without fear. Muslims are better equipped in India than in Pakistan and Bangladesh.
I felt the vast majority of Indian Muslims are open to the idea of a separation of religion and state. They've rejected Islamic states, voting to stay here — however, there is no leadership in the Muslim community that says, 'Not in my name'. I talked to prominent Muslims who said, "You're not going to make me deal with issues as a Muslim. I am an Indian. "
If Muslim women cannot go to a mosque and sit in the front row, it is not a Hindu problem. If Muslim men don't treat female relations with equal dignity, why are they complaining that others aren't doing so?
I put harsher responsibility on Indian Muslims because they are free, living in a democratic society. If they want to know what it's like to live under Islamic rule, they can see what`s happening in Pakistan.

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Serious?
I am serious. I have many Indian muslims as friends. I also knew a lot of Brit-Pakis when I was in UK. You cannot even compare. There might be an odd exception but Indian muslims are nowhere like the extremists that are there in some well know countries. Growing up in a democratic, secular country with rights and privileges would obviously have played a part

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I am serious. I have many Indian muslims as friends. I also knew a lot of Brit-Pakis when I was in UK. You cannot even compare. There might be an odd exception but Indian muslims are nowhere like the extremists that are there in some well know countries. Growing up in a democratic, secular country with rights and privileges would obviously have played a part
I have lived in Bengal, Nanded, Hyderabad, Chennai at various stages in my life and I found them to be quite hostile tbh. If these guys are good can't imagine how bad Pakistanis,Somalis,Middle East people are :nervous: Maybe in places where you have lived situation is different.

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One more shining example of today Muslim girl in Mumbai wins Gita contest

I have always been inquisitive about religions and I often read up on them during my free time. So when my teacher told me about this contest I thought it would be a good chance to understand what the book is about. My parents too supported my idea of participating in the contest," said Maryam, who received the prize on March 15.
Maryam has always had conversations about religion with her parents. "Our family believes that one needs to respect and accept all religions. No religion preaches hatred or wrong. However, there are some members who have misguided us. Before these have a bad influence on the children, we need to talk to them and make them understand what is right," said her father, Asif Siddiqui.
There are always leaders that try to play vote bank politics and yes, some occasional communal skirmishes in backward areas but Indian hindus and muslims have lived together for centuries. These are testing times as muslim world outside India ( and maybe SE Asian countries ) is burning. There are lot of external powers trying to use Indian muslims but as a group they gave them a finger.

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I have lived in Bengal, Nanded, Hyderabad, Chennai at various stages in my life and I found them to be quite hostile tbh. If these guys are good can't imagine how bad Pakistanis,Somalis,Middle East people are :nervous: Maybe in places where you have lived situation is different.
I am based in Hyderabad and have been to Bangalore and stayed in a house owned by a muslim couple. You might get odd cases ( and that is true of hindus too ) that seem hostile but you should see Brit-Pakis. The 2-3 Afghans I had met were very nice people though.

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I am serious. I have many Indian muslims as friends. I also knew a lot of Brit-Pakis when I was in UK. You cannot even compare. There might be an odd exception but Indian muslims are nowhere like the extremists that are there in some well know countries. Growing up in a democratic, secular country with rights and privileges would obviously have played a part
It is the time that decide how much extremist you are.Punjabi muslims were not even hardcore supporter Muslim league. They had Unionist party which was quite secular.Infact Punjabi muslims of pre partition era were considered as quite secular. But as the time changed they shifted their support to muslim league in early 40s.

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I am based in Hyderabad and have been to Bangalore and stayed in a house owned by a muslim couple. You might get odd cases ( and that is true of hindus too ) that seem hostile but you should see Brit-Pakis. The 2-3 Afghans I had met were very nice people though.
Isn't lying forbidden in Hinduism?

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One more shining example of today Muslim girl in Mumbai wins Gita contest There are always leaders that try to play vote bank politics and yes, some occasional communal skirmishes in backward areas but Indian hindus and muslims have lived together for centuries. These are testing times as muslim world outside India ( and maybe SE Asian countries ) is burning. There are lot of external powers trying to use Indian muslims but as a group they gave them a finger.
Is she the same poster here "Marayam" ? she is in mumbai too.

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In 1951, Muslims were 9.8%. If in 100 years time they are expected to go to close to 20% imagine how soon they will reach 30-35% from there, max another 50 odd years and booom, another partition. Same thing happened in Nigeria too. There are moderates in Islam, especially in India but unfortunately their voices aren't coming out. A comparatively smaller rabid fanatic group of people are creating havoc.

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Isn't lying forbidden in Hinduism?
It is ( except under rare circumstances of Greater good of mankind - read Gita and you will get more details ). We don't even have concepts of Taqiyya, Idtirar, Kitman or Hiyal ( I am sure you dont need coaching on that ) Off now...Troll.

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Humanity can never dissociate itself from religion man' date=' hard cold fact. Only hope that religions are more peace loving and tolerant.[/quote'] peace loving and tolerant religions ended up as failure.Jews in India and Parsi's can be considered as very peace loving as these religions never came in conflict .unfortunately both are dying in India

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It is ( except under rare circumstances of Greater good of mankind - read Gita and you will get more details ). We don't even have concepts of Taqiyya, Idtirar, Kitman or Hiyal ( I am sure you dont need coaching on that ) Off now...Troll.
Taqiyya is a shia practice.

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What about others? Also Shias are muslims isn't it? Anyway the answer was only for the concerned troll Panther bhai. We love you here :icflove:
Only idtitar is allowed under sunni Islam others are practices of the other sects and cults. Are shia muslim, well some of their beliefs could make them kafir and many scholars have labelled them as kafirs whilst many have not so there is a difference of opinion on this matter.

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Only idtitar is allowed under sunni Islam others are practices of the other sects and cults. Are shia muslim, well some of their beliefs could make them kafir and many scholars have labelled them as kafirs whilst many have not so there is a difference of opinion on this matter.
If they are considered as kafir then why are they allowed in mecca?

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If they are considered as kafir then why are they allowed in mecca?
YH that is because the scholars of the sunni world have not reached a consensus on this matter if they did than shiahs like the ahmedis would be banned from hajj.

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By 2050' date=' they wont be called "minority"[/quote'] To rub it in, they might have a reservation quota too. :giggle:

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