mishra Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 ^ You have hit nail on head. For most countries, Especially the one our media emulates to, MSM generally asks same questions and lets various parties answer them. Not only that they keep a record of that and ensures that same parties dont easily back track on promise or policy. In India most of the time , senior journos, instead of asking question on policy and differences, are more interested in highlighting some polarising or vote bank incidence. a case in moot was " Achchhhe Din ". No journo ever evaluated or measured what " Achchhhe Din" meant, I would have praised them had one got brain cells and asked BJP to define Achchhhe Din". Instead at every stray incidence they kept on saying "Is this Achchhhe Din". velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 ^^^^ To elaborate further - USA, both left/right or democrats/republicans may hate each other, yet they unite when it comes to security, terrorism, nationalism and both generally believe in American exceptionalism. But that's not true in India, our left with huge media support often politicize and give space to anti-nationals, terrorists. velu and jalebi_bhai 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 5 hours ago, velu said: you are the one contradicitng others , onus is on you .. this is the first time i am hearing about "patra lies" .. there are far more well published issues are there , try to clarify it starting from intolerance , patel agitation , kanhaiya kumar , army daughter etc etc .. listed few , onus is on you There can be a divided opinion on media. But can there ba divided opinion on what Patra said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Haarkarjeetgaye said: There can be a divided opinion on media. But can there ba divided opinion on what Patra said? overall it all boils down to whom the media favors .. simple guess is anything other than BJP .. go through Dua's youtube channel , overwhelmingly anti-bjp and anti-modi edit:- wrong name Edited May 22, 2017 by velu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surajmal Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 In 5 years we are going to be back DD news days. All the private news channels will shut shop because people will get tired of the nonsense debate format (both sides of the political spectrum). DD news and LS/RS TV are the only news channels that don't raise my BP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, velu said: overall it all boils down to whom the media favors .. simple guess is anything other than BJP .. go through Patra's youtube channel , overwhelmingly anti-bjp and anti-modi It is not a simple guess. I have given you enough examples where media has BJP go Scott free. Sambit Patra has a YouTube channel and it is anti BJP? Please share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 7 minutes ago, Haarkarjeetgaye said: It is not a simple guess. I have given you enough examples where media has BJP go Scott free. Sambit Patra has a YouTube channel and it is anti BJP? Please share sorry vinod dua .. ( will edit it ) overall media is pro or against bjp in your view ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 1 minute ago, velu said: sorry vinod dua .. ( will edit it ) overall media is pro or against bjp in your view ? I believe media is always in bed with the ruling government, no matter what party. What Sambit Patra said here has nothing to do with Vinod Dua Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Haarkarjeetgaye said: I believe media is always in bed with the ruling government, no matter what party. What Sambit Patra said here has nothing to do with Vinod Dua vindo dua is anti-bjp .. media controlled by the governemtn will be obviously pro-BJP .. but in india rest of the media is anti-bjp , if you disagree then you derseve a medal for being extremely innocent ( putting it mildly ) Edited May 22, 2017 by velu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, velu said: vindo dua is anti-bjp .. media controlled by the governemtn will be obviously pro-BJP .. but in india rest of the media is anti-bjp , if you disagree then you derseve a medal for being extremely innocent ( putting it mildly ) Sure. And what do you deserve for supporting Sambit patra.patriotism medal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 12 minutes ago, Haarkarjeetgaye said: I believe media is always in bed with the ruling government, no matter what party. What Sambit Patra said here has nothing to do with Vinod Dua You are very wrong. India's media is ideologically driven. And they are majority left-wing, anti-BJP/RSS and are doing many lies, fake news against BJP. Next, when anti-nationals, criminals are given space & platform for just being anti-BJP, it's clear that the media itself is playing the part of the opposition. Today, the reality is any political opponent is fully welcomed and given complete free-pass by this media. Also, if BJP is doing well, it's not because of media. They all wanted and thought BJP will lose UP badly. Please check some old news and see their horrible coverage. While, the opposition could be much worse situation, but are still running due to media support. With incompetent and criminals like Rahul, Lalu, Kejriwal let off scot-free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, someone said: You are very wrong. India's media is ideologically driven. And they are majority left-wing, anti-BJP/RSS and are doing many lies, fake news against BJP. Next, when anti-nationals, criminals are given space & platform for just being anti-BJP, it's clear that the media itself is playing the part of the opposition. Today, the reality is any political opponent is fully welcomed and given complete free-pass by this media. Also, if BJP is doing well, it's not because of media. They all wanted and thought BJP will lose UP badly. Please check some old news and see their horrible coverage. While, the opposition could be much worse situation, but are still running due to media support. With incompetent and criminals like Rahul, Lalu, Kejriwal let off scot-free. Media has to play the part of the opposition but not by bringing these anti socials, criminals who speak against the government. This goes in favour of the government. Because the media does not bring Rajnath Singh in front of the country and question his faliure. Media does not bring finance minister on TV and question the GDP numbers. Media does not question the HRD minister on skill upgradation when job growth is retarted. Media does not question the government why small businesses are not flourishing. That is the faliure of media, but it does not mean it is anti BJP Edited May 22, 2017 by Haarkarjeetgaye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 ^ To call something a failure is subjective. You have to so some research. For example Before blaming intolereramce find out howw many such incidents happened in past. Data is available. Media knows that data is against the narrative its trying to portray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Haarkarjeetgaye said: Media has to play the part of the opposition but not by bringing these anti socials, criminals who speak against the government. This goes in favour of the government. Because the media does not bring Rajnath Singh in front of the country and question his faliure. Media does not bring finance minister on TV and question the GDP numbers. Media does not question the HRD minister on skill upgradation when job growth is retarted. Media does not question the government why small businesses are not flourishing. That is the faliure of media, but it does not mean it is anti BJP Wow, this government is the most accessible government. It's PM to its ministers have given more interviews, answered more questions than the previous UPA government combined 10 years. Plus, there is also a big social media connectivity with ordinary people. Now, reverse this question and let's talk about the opposition. How many interviews or questions has your Mamta, Rahul, Nitish, Lalu given? Media has never dared to ask them questions and always keep playing them up. Today, there is no debate on their credibility and they are default secular champions just because they are standing against Modi. Also, media told us that BJP will lose elections after demonetization. Each election was a litmus test, yet BJP won them. So clearly, there is little credibility there as journalists personal opinion are termed as research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, someone said: Wow, this government is the most accessible government. It's PM to its ministers have given more interviews, answered more questions than the previous UPA government combined 10 years. Plus, there is also a big social media connectivity with ordinary people. Now, reverse this question and let's talk about the opposition. How many interviews or questions has your Mamta, Rahul, Nitish, Lalu given? Media has never dared to ask them questions and always keep playing them up. Today, there is no debate on their credibility and they are default secular champions just because they are standing against Modi. Also, media told us that BJP will lose elections after demonetization. Each election was a litmus test, yet BJP won them. So clearly, there is little credibility there as journalists personal opinion are termed as research. If they have, then what answers do we have for these deaths at the border, the falling job growth numbers, vigilante groups, Arunachal Pradesh, horrible cases of dead bodies being carried on shoulders for lack of facilities. share some interviews if you can. Also elaborate on what do you mean by your mamta, Rahul etc etc. they are as much yours as mine. Edited May 22, 2017 by Haarkarjeetgaye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, Haarkarjeetgaye said: If they have, then what answers do we have for these deaths at the border, the falling job growth numbers, vigilante groups, Arunachal Pradesh, horrible cases of dead bodies being carried on shoulders for lack of facilities. share some interviews if you can. Also elaborate on what do you mean by your mamta, Rahul etc etc. they are as much yours as mine. This is exactly how opposition is speaking. However most people have memories older then 3 years and also can refer history books if they want to know how we have reached here. Mere opposition for salr of opposition doesnt help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 1 minute ago, mishra said: This is exactly how opposition is speaking. However most people have memories older then 3 years and also can refer history books if they want to know how we have reached here. Mere opposition for salr of opposition doesnt help. Shouldn't the current govt have read the history books before making chest thumping statements.i hope they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Haarkarjeetgaye said: Shouldn't the current govt have read the history books before making chest thumping statements.i hope they did. Keep going on with chest thumping argument. They did surgical strike for a change in either side of our border. Ps: its history thats why they are in power for good 10 years Edited May 22, 2017 by mishra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 1 minute ago, mishra said: Keep going on with chest thumping argument. They did surgical strike for a change in either side of our border. For a change? Hope you know history too. Army has said they have been doing it since 1965. More so did this surgical strike solve the problem for which this government criticized the previous governments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Haarkarjeetgaye said: If they have, then what answers do we have for these deaths at the border, the falling job growth numbers, vigilante groups, Arunachal Pradesh, horrible cases of dead bodies being carried on shoulders for lack of facilities. share some interviews if you can. Also elaborate on what do you mean by your mamta, Rahul etc etc. they are as much yours as mine. There are many such interview videos. Suggest to check the India TV & Aajtak recent interviews. What matters is can the media ask BJP questions? And are the BJP answering questions? The answer is YES to both. But that never happened in UPA government. Likes of Rahul, Sonia were completely hostile to the media and yet media were completely obedient towards them. Even today, Mamta, Rahul don't take nor answer questions, yet media is crying out for their formidable alliance. Today, if you are against Modi, there is a open and big platform ready for you by this media. Whereas, BJP as opposition pre-2014 had to fight each day with hostile journalists and their one-sided questions. Edited May 22, 2017 by someone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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