Khota Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 11 minutes ago, Vilander said: Dude not everyone is Sehwag and even he had limitations. Dhawan is a reincarnation of Sehwag with longer life. Both are from Delhi and have the same style. On their day they can light it up like no ones business. Link to comment
Prateek3801 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Those who think that Dhawan would have done better than Vijay/Rahul in Tests are completely wrong. Dhawan is sh!t in test format, to be very frank, all his good scores have come up on good batting wickets and against weak oppositions. Test format and limited overs format are entirely different, Dhawan can never sustain on those green pitches and he can never play that kind of a gritty knock which Vijay played in the third test. That 25 of 127 balls was invaluable and highly underrated. Vijay and Rahul are the way forward in the test format. Dhawan is undoubtedly good in limited overs, but test cricket and limited overs cricket are entirely different deals and should be treated like that. Dhawan can never be a good test cricketer OVERSEAS. And that is why Dhawan should not be played in tests. Ankit_sharma03 1 Link to comment
Prateek3801 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 On 1/27/2018 at 6:56 PM, vvvslaxman said: Possibly the dumbest suggestion of the century. Open with Rahane/Rohit/Dhawan. I mean. come on that is plain illiteracy. Unless you are closely related to these players (even they won't suggest this) . As you can see i am the first one even to respond to this. that is just to point out how wilfully ignorant you are about assessing strengths and weaknesses of players. You just killed it with your statement. Ankit_sharma03 1 Link to comment
Prateek3801 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Dear Khota, You need to understand the difference between Test format and ODI format. Dhawan can certainly do well in tests against minnow team but he will never sustain outside the subcontinent. Vilander and Ankit_sharma03 2 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 4 hours ago, Khota said: Dhawan is a reincarnation of Sehwag with longer life. Both are from Delhi and have the same style. On their day they can light it up like no ones business. I find it funny when anyone sees anyone playing quick and compare him to sehwag Sehwag was mindset like never before Sehwag was murderer of spin bowling, dhawan is only decent against spinners. Sehwag scored a 100 in debut in SA and dhawan has played 3 test in Sa and done nothing Sehwag scored a 100 in eng , dhawan nothing in eng Sehwag scored a 100 in Aus, dhawan nothing in Aus Sehwag ripped apart murali, mendis , akthar, saqlain in their own backyard Do u knw what sehwag was as test batsman . Ill surely rate dhawan as odi batsman higher then sehwag but as test batsman dhawan is a failure and comparing him to an ATG test cricketer like Sehwag ..u must be joking. Sehwag on his days was an absolute genius. Sehwag was not about hitting , he was about an unadulterated mindset.....extremely postive mindset . IF anyone who bats at higher s/r doesnt make him sehwag. Chappell perfectly explains his mindset, even he found only one player to compare with him. Vilander, Prateek3801 and Ironhide 1 2 Link to comment
Prateek3801 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: I find it funny when anyone sees anyone playing quick and compare him to sehwag Sehwag was mindset like never before Sehwag was murderer of spin bowling, dhawan is only decent against spinners. Sehwag scored a 100 in debut in SA and dhawan has played 3 test in Sa and done nothing Sehwag scored a 100 in eng , dhawan nothing in eng Sehwag scored a 100 in Aus, dhawan nothing in Aus Sehwag ripped apart murali, mendis , akthar, saqlain in their own backyard Do u knw what sehwag was as test batsman . Ill surely rate dhawan as odi batsman higher then sehwag but as test batsman dhawan is a failure and comparing him to an ATG test cricketer like Sehwag ..u must be joking. Sehwag on his days was an absolute genius. Sehwag was not about hitting , he was about an unadulterated mindset.....extremely postive mindset . IF anyone who bats at higher s/r doesnt make him sehwag. What an answer!! Seriously, you explained it perfectly. Ankit_sharma03 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 3 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: I find it funny when anyone sees anyone playing quick and compare him to sehwag Sehwag was mindset like never before Sehwag was murderer of spin bowling, dhawan is only decent against spinners. Sehwag scored a 100 in debut in SA and dhawan has played 3 test in Sa and done nothing Sehwag scored a 100 in eng , dhawan nothing in eng Sehwag scored a 100 in Aus, dhawan nothing in Aus Sehwag ripped apart murali, mendis , akthar, saqlain in their own backyard Do u knw what sehwag was as test batsman . Ill surely rate dhawan as odi batsman higher then sehwag but as test batsman dhawan is a failure and comparing him to an ATG test cricketer like Sehwag ..u must be joking. Sehwag on his days was an absolute genius. Sehwag was not about hitting , he was about an unadulterated mindset.....extremely postive mindset . IF anyone who bats at higher s/r doesnt make him sehwag. Chappell perfectly explains his mindset, even he found only one player to compare with him. You are the one who keeps on talking about technique and all that but I have mentioned multiple times the game is simple for these great players. See the ball hit the ball and Dhawan can see it better than most. That part is mental for him. You will never undeestand that it is very difficult to see the ball till the end but that is another topic. In SA he got one test and proved to be the one of the top bat for India. Then the haters and ill informed people like you started baying for his blood and he was dropped for no rhyme or reason. You will never get it but Dhawan >>>> Vijay and Rahul. It is your pride that is standing in the way to admit it. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 3 hours ago, Khota said: You are the one who keeps on talking about technique and all that but I have mentioned multiple times the game is simple for these great players. See the ball hit the ball and Dhawan can see it better than most. That part is mental for him. You will never undeestand that it is very difficult to see the ball till the end but that is another topic. Their is very basic thing called balance. Something that was gr8 with sehwag n even steve smith Look how steady their head is Rohit sharma head falls when the ball jaggs around and i have made a thread on his technique long ago and he is still the same Some basic are must like steady head position 3 hours ago, Khota said: In SA he got one test and proved to be the one of the top bat for India. Then the haters and ill informed people like you started baying for his blood and he was dropped for no rhyme or reason. One of top bat in which test ???????? 3 hours ago, Khota said: You will never get it but Dhawan >>>> Vijay and Rahul. It is your pride that is standing in the way to admit it. Pride ohh yea,....its my pride Dhawan n rohit failure in overseas has nothing to do with The fact that ashwin n bhuvi avg more then them overseas has nothing to with it Pride is my logic.....whats ur logic for their poor perfomances overseas in test cricket Prateek3801 1 Link to comment
Vilander Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Their is very basic thing called balance. Something that was gr8 with sehwag n even steve smith Look how steady their head is Rohit sharma head falls when the ball jaggs around and i have made a thread on his technique long ago and he is still the same Some basic are must like steady head position One of top bat in which test ???????? Pride ohh yea,....its my pride Dhawan n rohit failure in overseas has nothing to do with The fact that ashwin n bhuvi avg more then them overseas has nothing to with it Pride is my logic.....whats ur logic for their poor perfomances overseas in test cricket Ankit. I think he is just trolling always has been there can be no rationale in this. Link to comment
Khota Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 10 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Their is very basic thing called balance. Something that was gr8 with sehwag n even steve smith Look how steady their head is Rohit sharma head falls when the ball jaggs around and i have made a thread on his technique long ago and he is still the same Some basic are must like steady head position One of top bat in which test ???????? Pride ohh yea,....its my pride Dhawan n rohit failure in overseas has nothing to do with The fact that ashwin n bhuvi avg more then them overseas has nothing to with it Pride is my logic.....whats ur logic for their poor perfomances overseas in test cricket I have no pride but humility only. He outperformed Vijay in the first test so he should have more or about the same opportunity . Is that not fair? Now do you think if his Rohits head straightens out he will perform? Good hitters always have head and eye movement linked to the ball. I doubt any of these batters are actually seeing the ball at the point of contact. I have never played a fast ball at that speed in cricket but in Tennis 100+ mph balls are very common. The time racket hits the ball is very predictive reasoning on part of the brain. Once again you have to be gifted and have a tremendous eyesight. getting back to the topic Rohit is not that bad as you make him to be. Link to comment
Vilander Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, Khota said: I have no pride but humility only. He outperformed Vijay in the first test so he should have more or about the same opportunity . Is that not fair? Now do you think if his Rohits head straightens out he will perform? Good hitters always have head and eye movement linked to the ball. I doubt any of these batters are actually seeing the ball at the point of contact. I have never played a fast ball at that speed in cricket but in Tennis 100+ mph balls are very common. The time racket hits the ball is very predictive reasoning on part of the brain. Once again you have to be gifted and have a tremendous eyesight. getting back to the topic Rohit is not that bad as you make him to be. Why is Dhawan not able to last 100 deliveries in SA or Eng ? In a test wicket. Link to comment
Khota Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 23 minutes ago, Vilander said: Why is Dhawan not able to last 100 deliveries in SA or Eng ? In a test wicket. Go check it. Compared to others he was fine. He is not your grind out artist. He puts pressure by putting runs on board. Link to comment
Vilander Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Khota said: Go check it. Compared to others he was fine. He is not your grind out artist. He puts pressure by putting runs on board. what runs did he put on board lol..15 .. 25 damn thats a lot? hehe compared to which others is he fine in facing deliveries..Shami and Bumrah ? Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Vilander said: what runs did he put on board lol..15 .. 25 damn thats a lot? hehe compared to which others is he fine in facing deliveries..Shami and Bumrah ? 16 n 16 in both innings, outscored by tailenders Vilander 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Khota said: I have no pride but humility only. He outperformed Vijay in the first test so he should have more or about the same opportunity . Is that not fair? Now do you think if his Rohits head straightens out he will perform? Good hitters always have head and eye movement linked to the ball. I doubt any of these batters are actually seeing the ball at the point of contact. I have never played a fast ball at that speed in cricket but in Tennis 100+ mph balls are very common. The time racket hits the ball is very predictive reasoning on part of the brain. Once again you have to be gifted and have a tremendous eyesight. getting back to the topic Rohit is not that bad as you make him to be. If only hitting cud have made u gr8 cricketers - pathan , yuvraj , raina wud have been bigger then dravid. Pollard wud have been bigger then chanderpaul Morris bigger then amla Tell ur logic to urself and explain what i asked u since ur backing them so much Explain to me their no show in overseas condition ......please explain why they have failed . Any other answers shows u have nothing to say so dont even come up with anything . Simple explain their overseas failures Link to comment
Prateek3801 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Khota…..you are a khota. No offence, mate. Ankit_sharma03 1 Link to comment
Prateek3801 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Shikhar Dhawan is sh!t in Tests no matter how much you say, I look at Dhawan and then I look at someone like Vijay, and then I make out that the difference in their temperament is much more than even their approach, there is nothing wrong in playing slow if that achieves the motive of grinding out the opposition, but it's criminal when as an opener you show the level of irresponsibility Dhawan does. Link to comment
Khota Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 7 hours ago, Vilander said: what runs did he put on board lol..15 .. 25 damn thats a lot? hehe compared to which others is he fine in facing deliveries..Shami and Bumrah ? 5 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: 6 n 16 in both innings, outscored by tailenders Either you are trying to be funny or being disingenious. He is being compared to Vijay and he did better. As far as outscored by tailenders this is indeed the worst statement I have ever read. Link to comment
Khota Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 5 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: If only hitting cud have made u gr8 cricketers - pathan , yuvraj , raina wud have been bigger then dravid. Pollard wud have been bigger then chanderpaul Morris bigger then amla Tell ur logic to urself and explain what i asked u since ur backing them so much Explain to me their no show in overseas condition ......please explain why they have failed . Any other answers shows u have nothing to say so dont even come up with anything . Simple explain their overseas failures I have never seen these three score more runs than Dravid. So how can you make that statement. Look there is nothing I can do to convince you because you refuse to see the writing on the wall. Dhawan currently is the second best for India. He outscore Vijay. That is all I have to say. Even if it is by one run he outscored him. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, Khota said: Either you are trying to be funny or being disingenious. He is being compared to Vijay and he did better. As far as outscored by tailenders this is indeed the worst statement I have ever read. Ur dellusional n dellusional check the scorecard of the match . About vijay vs dhawan- let 1st dhawan do something overseas. bhuvi scored 25 in one innings n ashwin 37 and my question remains 5 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Explain to me their no show in overseas condition ......please explain why they have failed . Any other answers shows u have nothing to say so dont even come up with anything . Simple explain their overseas failures which u have no answers? it seems Link to comment
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