Sourav Ganguly disagrees with Ravi Shastri's idea of playing Virat Kohli at No.4

[jusarrived]

53 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

occasional , in WI he scored 3....if u check his last yr its not occasional..he scoring at a crazy rate 

Rayudu the guy who struggles against quality pace having an impact as opener

Not only u wanna change kohli but rohit position , 2 of ur best players 

 

Simple logic give 120 balls to rayudu , kohli n rohit n see who makes more runs....rayudu wud be last so dont give him more balls anyways he is the weekest against pace n then moving deliveries . His blind slogs will connect in India not in overseas

virat is comfortable at 3 as he said many times, he feels he can control the game better their

 

and Rohit bats like a tailender against quality swing/spin . No point talking technique here , as all of them are poor .

if we are talking about wc , there are only 2 batsmen I have my hopes on . Dhawan and Virat and my bet is if we lose these two early its a certainty that we will lose the match .  

[jusarrived]

44 minutes ago, Khota said:

Pakistan problems are deeper. They have 6 to 7 so called all rounders in the team and their tail starts at 4. 

Think of it as a war. If your frontlines cannot survive the first assault the troops behind have no chance.

Always play sport as a battle startegy. That is the onlything that works.

 

 

Who do you see in the frontline of a war ? the king or your generals ?  with your strategy the war is over in 2 mins lol

[mishra]

11 minutes ago, jusarrived said:

 

and Rohit bats like a tailender against quality swing/spin . No point talking technique here , as all of them are poor .

if we are talking about wc , there are only 2 batsmen I have my hopes on . Dhawan and Virat and my bet is if we lose these two early its a certainty that we will lose the match .  

Kohli has two issue. He cant resist temptation of driving through covers when ball is on fifth stump line. He has great technique and that is a beautifull shot too. Problem is, in case ball swings too much, it may take a edge or shot is in air (covers zone) because it didnt hit the bat where he would like to. A quick fix would be to be able to play slightly cross bat, but may be his grip may not be allowing that. Or he can achieve it by not taking front foot too far across

 

Second issue is a ball on leg stump in waist height. He is blindsigheted each time ball hits his bat. So he is actually not seeing the ball at the moment of impact. He can leave it and he must leave it as he is too good of batsman to sacrifice his wicket for a single down square leg or third man

Edited February 12, 2019 by mishra

[jusarrived]

49 minutes ago, Khota said:

Pakistan problems are deeper. They have 6 to 7 so called all rounders in the team and their tail starts at 4. 

 

How is that even relevant here ? you said our top order will become weak if any of these are replaced . I just showed you the pak top order statistically is better than ours , basically thats how easy it is to bat in the top order ..its not where your best batsmen should play , but where you hide your weak links . Less versatile players , who cannot take singles at will or batsmen who choke under pressure or hacks who play mostly aerial shots 

[Austin 3:!6]

1 hour ago, mishra said:

Where is Rayudhu DK Kedhar. I will say Vijay Shankar is better option too. He hits the ball cleaner then most

DK should stick to T20s only and aim to play the 2020 T20 world cup. He is not an assured ODI player.

 

I am still not sold on Rayudu. Rayudu is good in situations when we are chasing a modest target (say 230 odd) and if the openers gives us a good start. But if we bat first or chase a steep target, he sucks the momentum with his low strike rate. In modern Odi cricket, there is no place for consolidators. Else we might take Pujara to the world cup who has got better technique.

 

I like Vijay Shankar but too raw to be into a world cup team. His batting is good but team mgmt dont trust his bowling much and his fielding is worrysome. With Pandya we have better option for now.

 

Jadhav, yes he is a key player due to his all round abilities. I would swap him with Pant if later fails. Ideally Pant and Jadhav both should play but we all know why that cant be possible.

 

Edited February 12, 2019 by Austin 3:!6

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 hours ago, jusarrived said:

 

and Rohit bats like a tailender against quality swing/spin .

Rohit problem is not against pace, rayudu cant touch high pace

2 hours ago, jusarrived said:

 

No point talking technique here , as all of them are poor .

Rayudu is way low against pace bounce, Rohit dhawan are good n successful 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

3 hours ago, Khota said:

Pakistan problems are deeper. They have 6 to 7 so called all rounders in the team and their tail starts at 4. 

their problem is that their batsman aren mediocre and most of them cant win u 300+ games on their own most days. They are like rayudu n rahane ....who are impact less most days . Only quality batsman they have is babar azam who also is not at level of dhawan/kohli/rohit 

6 n 7 are generally utility cricketer. In modern day cricket u either need to be match winner or utility cricketer...those 2 are doing fine problem is specialist batsman.  

 

[Khota]

4 hours ago, jusarrived said:

 

 

Who do you see in the frontline of a war ? the king or your generals ?  with your strategy the war is over in 2 mins lol

Wrong analogy. You start the war with field artillery 155mm. Then go back to troops with 7.62 mm. 

[Khota]

4 hours ago, jusarrived said:

How is that even relevant here ? you said our top order will become weak if any of these are replaced . I just showed you the pak top order statistically is better than ours , basically thats how easy it is to bat in the top order ..its not where your best batsmen should play , but where you hide your weak links . Less versatile players , who cannot take singles at will or batsmen who choke under pressure or hacks who play mostly aerial shots 

Because someone brought up Pakistan and I gave my analysis of what is going on.

 

At that level if you have weak links you have already lost it.

[Khota]

1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

their problem is that their batsman aren mediocre and most of them cant win u 300+ games on their own most days. They are like rayudu n rahane ....who are impact less most days . Only quality batsman they have is babar azam who also is not at level of dhawan/kohli/rohit 

6 n 7 are generally utility cricketer. In modern day cricket u either need to be match winner or utility cricketer...those 2 are doing fine problem is specialist batsman.  

 

Besides two or three they dont have bats that can be consistently counted upon. India has 5 bats that are top in the world. They have huge holes in their lineup.

[Ankit_sharma03]

27 minutes ago, Khota said:

Besides two or three they dont have bats that can be consistently counted upon. India has 5 bats that are top in the world. They have huge holes in their lineup.

Actually India also has only 3 rest cant said best in the world . But those 3 are best 

 

Pak batsman problem is not only consisteny but impact to. When i see their current generation it gives me an impression they bat with fear .