Let's keep track of number of dot balls wasted by Rohit Sharma in each innings.

[vvvslaxman]

8 minutes ago, zen said:

the only scoring stroke is a 6! .... and you see only Tuktuk Sharma .... Great!

 

Demand is to get off the blocks quickly

I don't want sloggers at the top.

[zen]

Updated below

 

Edited March 11, 2019 by zen

[zen]

1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said:

I don't want sloggers at the top.

Which is why ppl want better openers 

 

 

[jusarrived]

13 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Dot balls are bad for players like Amla, Pujara, Rahane. Not for six hitting monsters llike  Rohit sharma, Gayle.  They will more than make up.   India lacks big hitters especially six hitters. All are "innings builders".  There is nobody anywhere remotely close in India to Rohit sharma when it comes to pulling ball fast bowlers for sixes or straight driving them for sixes.  You need players who can produce big overs on demand. Not generic singles players like Amla. Too bad we have only one Rohit sharma. Thought KL Rahul would become a bit more consistent. But he is an useless show pony. Play well one innings, disappear for the next 10. 

Amlas strike rate is higher than Rohit inspite of all the six hitting .

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, jusarrived said:

Amlas strike rate is higher than Rohit inspite of all the six hitting .

Yes. As long as he is able to accelerate when needed we should be good. 11 runs needed in 2 overs. Amla couldn't finish it. He was blocking the balls in 49th over. Same with Babar Azam. Can't hit big when needed.  You don't need one-dimensional cricketers who can't go beyond a certain gear like Rahane, Pujara, Laxman who were all discarded from ODI set up.

[vvvslaxman]

22 minutes ago, zen said:

the only scoring stroke is a 6! .... and you see only Tuktuk Sharma .... Great!

 

Demand is to get off the blocks quickly

Handscome 82(84)

Khawaja 89(96)

around the same time Rohit got out for 95(92)

 

Wonder why they dind't lose but we lost.

[zen]

10 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Handscome 82(84)

Khawaja 89(96)

around the same time Rohit got out for 95(92)

 

Wonder why they dind't lose but we lost.

How many times you will respond to the same post?   .... Logically, both batted with 2 wkts down and known RRR

 

the guy at the top wasted 90 balls with Ind 0 wkts down (i have a seperate thread on it where you posted too) 

 

 

Edited March 11, 2019 by zen

[vvvslaxman]

3 minutes ago, zen said:

How many times you will respond to the same post?   .... Logically, both batted with 2 wkts down and known RRR

 

the guy at the top wasted 90 balls (i have a seperate thread on it where you posted too) 

 

 

No tell me how come they didn't lose?  They were going exactly at the same rate even under lights where batting was super easy as against on a drier pitch. Don't give these wicket excuses. You said only way you can score 350 plus is by going great guns in the first 10.. They didn't go.. How did they convincingly beat us even with 2 down? 

[jusarrived]

1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said:

Yes. As long as he is able to accelerate when needed we should be good. 11 runs needed in 2 overs. Amla couldn't finish it. He was blocking the balls in 49th over. Same with Babar Azam. Can't hit big when needed.  You don't need one-dimensional cricketers who can't go beyond a certain gear like Rahane, Pujara, Laxman who were all discarded from ODI set up.

Amla is a poor LOI bat , the point is inspite of his limitation of not having the big shots he still scores at a higher rate than Rohit , so does his partner Dhawan  . 

What’s the point of talking about an openers hitting abilities in the 49th over ? How often does it happen anyway ? He’s played 200+ matches and stayed past the 40th over , may be 10 matches ? Am sorry am more worried about the other 190 matches where he screws the team badly and I know for sure he’s going to add another 10 to that tally in coming WC . How confident are you that he’s going to play a meaningful knock ? 

 

 

[jusarrived]

12 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Handscome 82(84)

Khawaja 89(96)

around the same time Rohit got out for 95(92)

 

Wonder why they dind't lose but we lost.

Come on Rohit dosent play like that when we are chasing . He’s the first to get out . 

And mind you , Aus lost early wickets so they hadn’t to play safe ..we where wicket less of 30 overs 

[vvvslaxman]

Just now, jusarrived said:

Amla is a poor LOI bat , the point is inspite of his limitation of not having the big shots he still scores at a higher rate than Rohit , so does his partner Dhawan  . 

What’s the point of talking about an openers hitting abilities in the 49th over ? How often does it happen anyway ? He’s played 200+ matches and stayed past the 40th over , may be 10 matches ? Am sorry am more worried about the other 190 matches where he screws the team badly and I know for sure he’s going to add another 10 to that tally in coming WC . How confident are you that he’s going to play a meaningful knock ? 

 

 

I am more confident than with guys like  Rahul, Rayudu, DInesh Karthik, Jadhav, Dhoni. That is what we have in the middle overs. ANy top order collapse in the name of acceleration means we end up with way below par total. Kohli is a genius. Let us not compare him with anybody. Other than Kohli nobody is going to do anything different up the order. India cannot afford to sacrifice any wicket by promoting a slogger up the order.  

[vvvslaxman]

Just now, jusarrived said:

Come on Rohit dosent play like that when we are chasing . He’s the first to get out . 

And mind you , Aus lost early wickets so they hadn’t to play safe ..we where wicket less of 30 overs 

Point is at the end of the day they reached our total convincingly even with 2 down, even after scoring at a lesser rate. Do you honestly think Indian no.6 could have pulled that off what Turner pulled off? We have a weak middle order, extremely weak lower order. If India has to get somewhere in this world cup runs have to come from the top. 

[zen]

Just now, vvvslaxman said:

No tell me how come they didn't lose?  They were going exactly at the same rate even under lights where batting was super easy as against on a drier pitch. Don't give these wicket excuses. You said only way you can score 350 plus is by going great guns in the first 10.. They didn't go.. How did they convincingly beat us even with 2 down? 

Logically, going great guns with 10 wkts in hand in batting friendly conditions .... when chasing it would depend up on the RRR

 

And you should know that batting early was easier than batting later on when pitch slowed down a bit. Credit to the MO for taking us north of 350. Though could have gotten closer to 400 

[vvvslaxman]

Just now, zen said:

Logically, going great guns with 10 wkts in hand in batting friendly conditions .... when chasing it would depend up on the RRR

 

And you should know that batting early was easier than batting later on when pitch slowed down a bit. Credit to the MO for taking us north of 350. Though could have gotten closer to 400 

Stop banging your head. Stop deflecting. How did they end up with 359 in 48 odd overs even going at that rate. Give me the straight answer. Don't try to dodge your way out of this with BS reasons that are flat out false. How come Australia without going at faster rate at the top still managed to get to 359 effortlessly. 

[zen]

5 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Point is at the end of the day they reached our total convincingly even with 2 down, even after scoring at a lesser rate. Do you honestly think Indian no.6 could have pulled that off what Turner pulled off? We have a weak middle order, extremely weak lower order. If India has to get somewhere in this world cup runs have to come from the top. 

Nothing justifies unnecessary tuktuking unless you think runs have to be hit of the last ball (and that only Tuktuk Sharma has to be batting) .... enjoy your thread below: 

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, zen said:

Nothing justifies unnecessary tuktuking unless you think runs have to be hit of the last ball (and that only Tuktuk Sharma has to be batting) .... enjoy your thread below: 

 

 

Blah blah blah.. 

[zen]

6 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Stop banging your head. Stop deflecting. How did they end up with 359 in 48 odd overs even going at that rate. Give me the straight answer. Don't try to dodge your way out of this with BS reasons that are flat out false. How come Australia without going at faster rate at the top still managed to get to 359 effortlessly. 

Because they played good cricket as per the requirement of the chase .... and Ind ended up with a total that did not account for dew with Rohit wasting 90 balls when batting was relatively easier for India  

Edited March 11, 2019 by zen

[zen]

2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Blah blah blah.. 

Truth is out! 

[vvvslaxman]

Just now, zen said:

Because they played good cricket as per the requirement of the chase .... and Ind ended up with a total that did not account for dew with Rohit wasting 90 balls when batting was relatively easier for India  

I take it you don't have an answer lol  How the heck someone wasting 90 balls will end up wiht 95? He scored 95 runs in 2 balls? @maniac Do you even make any sense?

[jusarrived]

2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

I am more confident than with guys like  Rahul, Rayudu, DInesh Karthik, Jadhav, Dhoni. That is what we have in the middle overs. ANy top order collapse in the name of acceleration means we end up with way below par total. Kohli is a genius. Let us not compare him with anybody. Other than Kohli nobody is going to do anything different up the order. India cannot afford to sacrifice any wicket by promoting a slogger up the order.  

The rest of the team is poor dosent make Rohit good . There are only 3 batsmen who have been secure of their spot for past few years , they never get dropped irrespective of their performance . Dhoni is way past it anyway .So of the three Virat is obviously leagues ahead , followed by Dhawan and Rohit a distant third . When you have only 3 athletes in a race , they don’t give out a bronze medal . 

I Wudnt normally have a problem if he was not hogging an important opening spot . He’s going to choke when we chase , tuk tuk on flat pitches ,pile on the runs against likes of Bangla , fail Irving it swings and go out of “form” in the knock outs . It’s going to cost us big time .