sandeep Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 Poor kid, I hope his father returns safely. When folks like these are truly free, there will a genuine chance for lasting peace between India & Pakistan.
Autonomous Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, sandeep said: PTM is no saint. They are trash.
sandeep Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Autonomous said: PTM is no saint. They are trash. why do you say that?
Autonomous Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, sandeep said: why do you say that? Listen to what they have to say with their ethnic stufd regarding burning piunjabis, lahore city etc. These guys are opportunists jahil terrorists. Edited July 21, 2020 by Autonomous
sandeep Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 41 minutes ago, Autonomous said: Listen to what they have to say with their ethnic stufd regarding burning piunjabis, lahore city etc. These guys are opportunists jahil terrorists. Well, some of the things said by Pakjabis about the Pukhtoon is quite bigoted as well - stereotyping them as backward, illiterate, jahil, criminal etc. And the reality is that they have been at the sharp pointy end of the PakMil mafia's shenanigans for decades now. Bound to create ill-will, no? One would think patriotic pakistanis would want to work with PTM and address legitimate grievances, instead of demonizing them, as the PakMil propaganda does. Then again, patriotism doesn't always attract the sharpest does it.
Autonomous Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, sandeep said: Well, some of the things said by Pakjabis about the Pukhtoon is quite bigoted as well - stereotyping them as backward, illiterate, jahil, criminal etc. And the reality is that they have been at the sharp pointy end of the PakMil mafia's shenanigans for decades now. Bound to create ill-will, no? One would think patriotic pakistanis would want to work with PTM and address legitimate grievances, instead of demonizing them, as the PakMil propaganda does. Then again, patriotism doesn't always attract the sharpest does it. You are justifying PTM's actions. Then again, expected from someone on the other side of the border where people like you can justify BLA's actions as well. Edited July 21, 2020 by Autonomous
coffee_rules Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 https://twitter.com/thezaiduleaks/status/1285659707701710849?s=21
Autonomous Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 39 minutes ago, sandeep said: Public pressure works
sandeep Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, Autonomous said: You are justifying PTM's actions. Then again, expected from someone on the other side of the border where people like you can justify BLA's actions as well. What "actions" of the PTM need to be justified? As far as I know, they are a non-violent political organization advocating for civil rights that they are entitled to under Pakistani constitution. Btw, I do not "justify" violence and terrorism perpetrated by anybody, anywhere.
Autonomous Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 42 minutes ago, sandeep said: What "actions" of the PTM need to be justified? As far as I know, they are a non-violent political organization advocating for civil rights that they are entitled to under Pakistani constitution. Btw, I do not "justify" violence and terrorism perpetrated by anybody, anywhere. They are bunch of lunatics.
sandeep Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, Autonomous said: They are bunch of lunatics. And I am still to see what specific wrongs you are accusing them of, that somehow make them "trash" or "lunatics".
Autonomous Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, sandeep said: And I am still to see what specific wrongs you are accusing them of, that somehow make them "trash" or "lunatics". Hate speech, calling out to burn lahore etc. So much for a "peaceful party" Someone from the PTM even tarnished national flag. Disgraceful. Due to hatred spread by likes of PTM & BLA, common individual like myself cannot even think of visiting Balochistan or Fata.
sandeep Posted July 22, 2020 Posted July 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Autonomous said: Hate speech, calling out to burn lahore etc. So much for a "peaceful party" Someone from the PTM even tarnished national flag. Disgraceful. Due to hatred spread by likes of PTM & BLA, common individual like myself cannot even think of visiting Balochistan or Fata. So what makes PTM's 'hate speech' that bad as opposed to the normal torrent of other hate speech that is so common in Pakistan - against Hindus, Ahmadiyas, and the rest, including Pathans and Afghans? I guess they are children of a lesser god that Punjabi hate speech can be excused or justified, or otherwise forgiven, but their hate speech means they have to be branded as enemies of the state? You guys are such hypocrites, even to your own citizens, who are muslims, still. This is the natural by-product of creating a nation-state based on a theory of exclusion and negation.
sandeep Posted July 22, 2020 Posted July 22, 2020 https://twitter.com/AmirMateen2/status/1285680387717574659
Autonomous Posted July 22, 2020 Posted July 22, 2020 8 hours ago, sandeep said: So what makes PTM's 'hate speech' that bad as opposed to the normal torrent of other hate speech that is so common in Pakistan - against Hindus, Ahmadiyas, and the rest, including Pathans and Afghans? I guess they are children of a lesser god that Punjabi hate speech can be excused or justified, or otherwise forgiven, but their hate speech means they have to be branded as enemies of the state? You guys are such hypocrites, even to your own citizens, who are muslims, still. This is the natural by-product of creating a nation-state based on a theory of exclusion and negation. Oh really. Bus justifications lelo tum logonse.
sandeep Posted July 22, 2020 Posted July 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Autonomous said: Oh really. Bus justifications lelo tum logonse. again, justifications for what? why is it permissible for Pakjabis to spout hate speech on your tv channels, but if Pukhtoons protesting against disappearances and deaths of loved ones says something angry, they are criminalized? Do you not see the double standards? On what basis are "PTM" hounded and illegally harassed, instead of being acknowledged as a political force? Why are elected members of Pakistani parliament wrongfully arrested and accused of terrorism - Khar Qamar massacre - and then released quietly few months later, since there is no real case against them? And where is the famous Pakistani love and emotion for AZAADI then?
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