Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 27, 2019 Author Share Posted November 27, 2019 10 hours ago, Vk1 said: To be frank, it's a shame that there's a thread on this. Shikhar Dhawan hasn't deserved a place in our T20 squad since his debut. agreed it was not needed, but in reality dhawan kept getting picked despite failing Link to comment
Khota Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: agreed it was not needed, but in reality dhawan kept getting picked despite failing One of the highest run scorer in IPL is hardly the definition of failure. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 27, 2019 Author Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Khota said: One of the highest run scorer in IPL is hardly the definition of failure. Even dhoni has been good in IPL doesnt make him a good t20 international players. Bottom line dhawan has sucked in international t20 even after good IPL so IPL runs dnt matter. u knw he is failure when u have to use IPL to defend a guy who has played 58 match career coz his international perfomance is poor Edited November 27, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
GautiMaan Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: he never got a proper chance or else i still think he was our best chance for no.4 He has a 100 at 4 in t20 , did very well for RCB at 4 Yes which is why he should have batted at 4 in the WC semi and Mayank should have opened Link to comment
Khota Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 11 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Even dhoni has been good in IPL doesnt make him a good t20 international players. Bottom line dhawan has sucked in international t20 even after good IPL so IPL runs dnt matter. u knw he is failure when u have to use IPL to defend a guy who has played 58 match career coz his international perfomance is poor You are a fraud and the biggest proponent of fake stats. Both of them played against BD and since that is the latest and sample size is large enough (N=3) can you compare them. I know you most likely will not. Link to comment
maniac Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Khota said: You are a fraud and the biggest proponent of fake stats. Both of them played against BD and since that is the latest and sample size is large enough (N=3) can you compare them. I know you most likely will not. I think it is time to move on from Dhawan in T20s Plenty of young talent ready for the big time. If IPL is the benchmark I think samson has 2 IPl 100’s and so does Rahul while Dhawan has none. Anyways I think Samson deserves a go. Don’t you think? Edited November 28, 2019 by maniac Link to comment
maniac Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 @Khota we are on the same page by the way when it comes to Dube and Journeymen like Sky Link to comment
Khota Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, maniac said: I think it is time to move on from Dhawan in T20s Plenty of young talent ready for the big time. If IPL is the benchmark I think samson has 2 IPl 100’s and so does Rahul while Dhawan has none. Anyways I think Samson deserves a go. Don’t you think? I am all for giving chances to young players but Dhawan has not tanked as this guy is implying. I agree with you that some new bats for India are exciting and they need to be rotated in somehow. I use IPL as one of the benchmarks because IPL stats are meaningful. Cricket stats as present on this site are wrong and those averages are wrong. If you dont assign appropriate weights cricket stats are garbage. Edited November 28, 2019 by Khota maniac 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, maniac said: @Khota we are on the same page by the way when it comes to Dube and Journeymen like Sky I have no idea how he got a cap. Absolute junk. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 28, 2019 Author Share Posted November 28, 2019 6 hours ago, Khota said: You are a fraud and the biggest proponent of fake stats. Both of them played against BD and since that is the latest and sample size is large enough (N=3) can you compare them. I know you most likely will not. u want latest sample , Scores in syed mushtaq ali post bang series Dhawan 24(22), 35(33), 19(18), 9(6), 0(9) Not even a single 50 KL rahul 84(48) 36(28) 69(46) 34 (27) 0(2) So in Sma t20 - KL is miles ahead Dhawan in 2019 international t20- avg of 22 .....s/r of 110 (not even a single 50 in 2019) KL in 2019 international t20 - avg of 38.40...s/r of 134 (last game he scored a 50 ) So in International t20 in 2019 - KL is miles ahead Dhawan in IPL 2019 - 16 matches 358 runs....s/r 135 Rahul in ipl 2019 - 14 matches 438 runs ....s/r 135 So in IPL 2019 - KL played 2 less games yet scored 2 more 50s So KL wins all the way Link to comment
Khota Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 5 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: u want latest sample , Scores in syed mushtaq ali post bang series Dhawan 24(22), 35(33), 19(18), 9(6), 0(9) Not even a single 50 KL rahul 84(48) 36(28) 69(46) 34 (27) 0(2) So in Sma t20 - KL is miles ahead Dhawan in 2019 international t20- avg of 22 .....s/r of 110 (not even a single 50 in 2019) KL in 2019 international t20 - avg of 38.40...s/r of 134 (last game he scored a 50 ) So in International t20 in 2019 - KL is miles ahead Dhawan in IPL 2019 - 16 matches 358 runs....s/r 135 Rahul in ipl 2019 - 14 matches 438 runs ....s/r 135 So in IPL 2019 - KL played 2 less games yet scored 2 more 50s So KL wins all the way That is why you are Captain Clueless. The variables in S M Trophy are too many so it is not fair. In series against BD there were very few variables and on top of it Dhawan face more hostile initial spell and he out performed Rahul. It is a shame stats you live by you clearly don't understand. Here are the numbers side by side. Dhawan Rahul 41 97.2 15 88.2 31 114 8 72 19 118 52 148 91 75 Side by side one guy has a better scoring rate, more runs but let us drop him. HATER. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 28, 2019 Author Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Khota said: That is why you are Captain Clueless. The variables in S M Trophy are too many so it is not fair. In series against BD there were very few variables and on top of it Dhawan face more hostile initial spell and he out performed Rahul. hostile Samne konsa dale steyn tha Quote Dhawan Rahul 41 97.2 15 88.2 31 114 8 72 8 was not out so totally unfair assessment as its impossible to score once target is over......clearly u dnt knw rules of the game Quote 19 118 52 148 This show dhawan on his goods days doesnt do much , cant score a 50 and when rahul has a good day he scores 50 Quote 91 75 91 in 3 outs so he avg 30 with 107 s/r 75 in 2 outs so he avg 37 with 119 s/r at the end of the series thats were both stand,such is ur weak argument that u hve to take support of KL innings where he was nout n taregt was finished means it was impossible for him to score runs. Clearly not only u dnt understand stats, diff formats but also rules of the game Quote Side by side one guy has a better scoring rate, more runs but let us drop him. HATER. So , in the end KL outscores him in IPL, 2019, whole t20 career, Syed mushtaq ali Kya hua baba Rahul ke run dekh ke ipl ka logic khatam ho gaya jo itni der se de rhe the, itne bure din aa gaye that u hve to use someone not out to put him down Edited November 28, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
Khota Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 47 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: hostile Samne konsa dale steyn tha 8 was not out so totally unfair assessment as its impossible to score once target is over......clearly u dnt knw rules of the game This show dhawan on his goods days doesnt do much , cant score a 50 and when rahul has a good day he scores 50 91 in 3 outs so he avg 30 with 107 s/r 75 in 2 outs so he avg 37 with 119 s/r at the end of the series thats were both stand,such is ur weak argument that u hve to take support of KL innings where he was nout n taregt was finished means it was impossible for him to score runs. Clearly not only u dnt understand stats, diff formats but also rules of the game So , in the end KL outscores him in IPL, 2019, whole t20 career, Syed mushtaq ali Kya hua baba Rahul ke run dekh ke ipl ka logic khatam ho gaya jo itni der se de rhe the, itne bure din aa gaye that u hve to use someone not out to put him down Dhawan was the second highest run getter in IPL. Not shabby. He outperformed KL in BD series. Not shabby. Let us drop him. Reason - I dont like him. Come up with a better arguement next time. Right now you come across as a very narrow minded petty person. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 28, 2019 Author Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Khota said: Dhawan was the second highest run getter in IPL. Not shabby. Rahul outperformed dhawan in 2 less games 2 minutes ago, Khota said: He outperformed KL in BD series. Not shabby. Let us drop him. How did Dhawan outperform rahul in bang series ?? Rahul has a better s/r , avg and even a 50 ..... Quote Reason - I dont like him. Come up with a better arguement next time. Right now you come across as a very narrow minded petty person. right now its ur defense that getting narrow Edited November 28, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
Khota Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Rahul outperformed dhawan in 2 less games How did Dhawan outperform rahul in bang series ?? Rahul has a better s/r , avg and even a 50 ..... right now its ur defense that getting narrow Dhawan has more runs and averages are a quirk in cricket. I rather pick someone who scores two 30's than some one who scores a duck and a 60. Consistency needs to be rewarded. Edited November 28, 2019 by Khota Link to comment
Norman Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Both are not good enough. I'd take Surya Kumar Yadav or Samson. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 28, 2019 Author Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Khota said: Dhawan has more runs and averages are a quirk in cricket. in bang series Dhawan avg 30 KL 37 In ipl 2019 KL avg 53 Dhawan 34 In international career Rahul avg 42 dhawan avg 27 Ab bol kisko nhin pata stats Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 28, 2019 Author Share Posted November 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Norman said: Both are not good enough. KL not good enough in t20, he has one of the best Record for India 3 minutes ago, Norman said: I'd take Surya Kumar Yadav or Samson. SKY not a top order player Samson has been dominated by KL n Pant in IPL Link to comment
Khota Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: in bang series Dhawan avg 30 KL 37 In ipl 2019 KL avg 53 Dhawan 34 In international career Rahul avg 42 dhawan avg 27 Ab bol kisko nhin pata stats In BD series which is the latest Dhawan scored 91. KL 75. 91>>>>>>75 95 is better than 75. Those 95 were against tougher attack and more hostile. 75 were against tired attack. KL if opens will be out for duck half the time. Edited November 28, 2019 by Khota Link to comment
Khota Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, Norman said: Both are not good enough. I'd take Surya Kumar Yadav or Samson. I think both need to be team. Both are real good. Link to comment
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