Analyzing Imran Khan

[Autonomous]

I have always failed to analyze him how to put up Imran Khan together. Insecure, ego-laden, idealist, control-oriented, self centric or what?

 

To talk about insecurity, he is PM of Pakistan and also controls Punjab directly because his appointed CM is dud dummy (google Usman Buzdar and you'll know). 

 

Always comes up with u-turns and lies, glorifies himself, does not have guts to appreciate opponents, is the guy in some negative frame of mind? For instance, he tweeted and glorified WHO's comments over response to coroba earlier although never mentioned Sindh govt. which was leading it. 

 

No accountability? For instance, Peshawar BRT Project's huge failure.

 

Direction? In last two years, reports of 5m pakistanis being unemployed, when economy was important, he never gave a rat ass, but now he fears about it when public health should be the core KPI? 

 

Arrogance, insanity and ego? For instance, political opposition suggested to lockdown, and he has been bragging about drawbacks of lockdown from 2 months.

 

What exactly is he? And with india-pakistan relationship going forward, how do you find IK? In my view, India is NOT fearful of IK, not at all. Who is it that India are vary about and who do you people think can settle issues/disputes in a sane manner from Pakistan's side?

 

Importantly, how do you assess IK, for someone who sounds so confusing yet claims to be messiah. 

[MechEng]

Isn't Imran Khan just a proxy Prime Minister like Manmohan Singh? I thought all major decisions in Pak need the consent of the army.

[randomGuy]

On lockdown he is more or less correct.

 

Otherwise, ego-laden and hypocritical. Unintelligent guy but very effective in projecting himself and confident. 

[Autonomous]

36 minutes ago, MechEng said:

Isn't Imran Khan just a proxy Prime Minister like Manmohan Singh? I thought all major decisions in Pak need the consent of the army.

Yes. But a "proxy" too has a pivotal operational role. 

[Autonomous]

27 minutes ago, randomGuy said:

On lockdown he is more or less correct.

 

Otherwise, ego-laden and hypocritical. Unintelligent guy but very effective in projecting himself and confident. 

Confident? I'm not sure. Have you gone through his communications? Guy talks without a clue and seems lost. 

[randomGuy]

33 minutes ago, Autonomous said:

Confident? I'm not sure. Have you gone through his communications? Guy talks without a clue and seems lost. 

Yes sometimes... I also feel that it is not bad to come across as unsure sometimes...afterall in life as also in running a country, there will be plenty of decisions where there will be a plenty of unknowns. But more or less, imran  does appear to be a confident guy to me. But confidence does not mean intelligence.

[Manny_Pacquiao]

 

Here are my thoughts on Imran khan.

 

1. the man is not a 'real' pakistani. he has never experienced the life of an average pakistani. while this is true of the 'elite' in any country, at the very least, there is some connection that is created through sustained outreach and education. many elites are capable of walking in the common man's shoes. i am not sure imran khan ever created that connection. he was detached to begin with, and because he spent many of his formative years in england - in social circles far removed from pakistan - his detachment only grew. it wouldn't be wrong to suggest that he views pakistan from the perspective of an englishman of pakistani descent, rather than that of an actual pakistani. which brings us to the next point:

 

2. imran khan is hopelessly idealistic. in the world of competitive sport, idealism is desirable, at times even necessary. politics, on the other hand, requires a different mindset. while most adults lose their sense of 'idealism' fairly early - realizing that life is never 'fair', nor will it ever be a level playing field - imran khan looked at pakistan as his pet project. as a man who saw the 'best' of what life had to offer in the west, he felt he could replicate western democracy in pakistan. he felt he could create a sense of pride and identity, similar to what he noticed (and envied) in his english compatriots. he is working off a template that not only fails to capture the realities of pakistan, but he is completely unprepared for the rigors and pitfalls created by inefficient bureaucracy. good administrators are more than just a face, they are pragmatists. which means he's fit for only one purpose....

 

3. imran thinks governance is about appealing to people's conscience. the best thing imran khan ever did outside a cricket field, was fund-raise for a cancer hospital. like all benevolent elites, he promised free treatment. he set about righting the wrongs of society by acting as a guardian angel, using his wealth and image for good. while his intentions are unquestionably pure - because he's an idealist - he fails to recognize that a country of 200 million people cannot function as a charity case. pakistan cannot exist as one big shaukat khanum cancer hospital. imran khan, having mingled with the elites of british society, feels like he can speak their language. he has little to offer in return, but he knows how to appeal to christian goodwill. this is the path he has chosen, and this is his default position. Every single diplomatic engagement of his is about appeal to conscience - "please help us, or else" - rather than cold, calculated geo-political interest.

 

naturally, a combination of these 3 factors make him very attractive to the pakistanis living 'overseas'. he can sell them a dream without needing to be overly persuasive. at "home", he has to contend with reality, as the memories of his cricketing exploits reach their expiration date. He can't fool the masses.

 

This is probably why he was chosen PM. he is a friendly, relatable face that can improve pakistan's image overseas. He can solicit donations from overseas pakistanis. while the army runs the show, imran functions as a public relations tool.

[MechEng]

59 minutes ago, Autonomous said:

Yes. But a "proxy" too has a pivotal operational role. 

Imran Khan cannot do much beyond what the system he lives in allows him to.

[MechEng]

35 minutes ago, Manny_Pacquiao said:

 

Here are my thoughts on Imran khan.

 

1. the man is not a 'real' pakistani. he has never experienced the life of an average pakistani. while this is true of the 'elite' in any country, at the very least, there is some connection that is created through sustained outreach and education. many elites are capable of walking in the common man's shoes. i am not sure imran khan ever created that connection. he was detached to begin with, and because he spent many of his formative years in england - in social circles far removed from pakistan - his detachment only grew. it wouldn't be wrong to suggest that he views pakistan from the perspective of an englishman of pakistani descent, rather than that of an actual pakistani. which brings us to the next point:

 

2. imran khan is hopelessly idealistic. in the world of competitive sport, idealism is desirable, at times even necessary. politics, on the other hand, requires a different mindset. while most adults lose their sense of 'idealism' fairly early - realizing that life is never 'fair', nor will it ever be a level playing field - imran khan looked at pakistan as his pet project. as a man who saw the 'best' of what life had to offer in the west, he felt he could replicate western democracy in pakistan. he felt he could create a sense of pride and identity, similar to what he noticed (and envied) in his english compatriots. he is working off a template that not only fails to capture the realities of pakistan, but he is completely unprepared for the rigors and pitfalls created by inefficient bureaucracy. good administrators are more than just a face, they are pragmatists. which means he's fit for only one purpose....

 

3. imran thinks governance is about appealing to people's conscience. the best thing imran khan ever did outside a cricket field, was fund-raise for a cancer hospital. like all benevolent elites, he promised free treatment. he set about righting the wrongs of society by acting as a guardian angel, using his wealth and image for good. while his intentions are unquestionably pure - because he's an idealist - he fails to recognize that a country of 200 million people cannot function as a charity case. pakistan cannot exist as one big shaukat khanum cancer hospital. imran khan, having mingled with the elites of british society, feels like he can speak their language. he has little to offer in return, but he knows how to appeal to christian goodwill. this is the path he has chosen, and this is his default position. Every single diplomatic engagement of his is about appeal to conscience - "please help us, or else" - rather than cold, calculated geo-political interest.

 

naturally, a combination of these 3 factors make him very attractive to the pakistanis living 'overseas'. he can sell them a dream without needing to be overly persuasive. at "home", he has to contend with reality, as the memories of his cricketing exploits reach their expiration date. He can't fool the masses.

 

This is probably why he was chosen PM. he is a friendly, relatable face that can improve pakistan's image overseas. He can solicit donations from overseas pakistanis. while the army runs the show, imran functions as a public relations tool.

The idealism and christian goodwill are myths too. Both of these would not be possible if western nations were not the most powerful civilizations on the planet. Because they have control over global narrative, they can sell such ultra liberal ideas. Take away that power and you will see the true colours.

[Autonomous]

1 hour ago, randomGuy said:

Yes sometimes... I also feel that it is not bad to come across as unsure sometimes...afterall in life as also in running a country, there will be plenty of decisions where there will be a plenty of unknowns. But more or less, imran  does appear to be a confident guy to me. But confidence does not mean intelligence.

 

56 minutes ago, MechEng said:

Imran Khan cannot do much beyond what the system he lives in allows him to.

Administration is something you can do at any point. Establishment never asked him to abolish the system of local bodies in Pakistan.

[Autonomous]

1 hour ago, Manny_Pacquiao said:

 

Here are my thoughts on Imran khan.

 

1. the man is not a 'real' pakistani. he has never experienced the life of an average pakistani. while this is true of the 'elite' in any country, at the very least, there is some connection that is created through sustained outreach and education. many elites are capable of walking in the common man's shoes. i am not sure imran khan ever created that connection. he was detached to begin with, and because he spent many of his formative years in england - in social circles far removed from pakistan - his detachment only grew. it wouldn't be wrong to suggest that he views pakistan from the perspective of an englishman of pakistani descent, rather than that of an actual pakistani. which brings us to the next point:

 

2. imran khan is hopelessly idealistic. in the world of competitive sport, idealism is desirable, at times even necessary. politics, on the other hand, requires a different mindset. while most adults lose their sense of 'idealism' fairly early - realizing that life is never 'fair', nor will it ever be a level playing field - imran khan looked at pakistan as his pet project. as a man who saw the 'best' of what life had to offer in the west, he felt he could replicate western democracy in pakistan. he felt he could create a sense of pride and identity, similar to what he noticed (and envied) in his english compatriots. he is working off a template that not only fails to capture the realities of pakistan, but he is completely unprepared for the rigors and pitfalls created by inefficient bureaucracy. good administrators are more than just a face, they are pragmatists. which means he's fit for only one purpose....

 

3. imran thinks governance is about appealing to people's conscience. the best thing imran khan ever did outside a cricket field, was fund-raise for a cancer hospital. like all benevolent elites, he promised free treatment. he set about righting the wrongs of society by acting as a guardian angel, using his wealth and image for good. while his intentions are unquestionably pure - because he's an idealist - he fails to recognize that a country of 200 million people cannot function as a charity case. pakistan cannot exist as one big shaukat khanum cancer hospital. imran khan, having mingled with the elites of british society, feels like he can speak their language. he has little to offer in return, but he knows how to appeal to christian goodwill. this is the path he has chosen, and this is his default position. Every single diplomatic engagement of his is about appeal to conscience - "please help us, or else" - rather than cold, calculated geo-political interest.

 

naturally, a combination of these 3 factors make him very attractive to the pakistanis living 'overseas'. he can sell them a dream without needing to be overly persuasive. at "home", he has to contend with reality, as the memories of his cricketing exploits reach their expiration date. He can't fool the masses.

 

This is probably why he was chosen PM. he is a friendly, relatable face that can improve pakistan's image overseas. He can solicit donations from overseas pakistanis. while the army runs the show, imran functions as a public relations tool.

I agree with your observations. 

 

But there are way too many other facets as well in his personality. 

 

For instance, he has diverted attention from his self-inflicted political/economic chaos to india/kashmir issue. 

 

There is "tunnel vision" problem as well with him. This is evident in his economic policies where he has set 1-2 indicators and keeps bragging about them while he has destroyed other economic fronts like the development. With Imran Khan it is like that hotel chef/manager who tries to keep costs so low that he crashes out on other fronts like quality, taste, hygeine, and on top of that beats **** out of employees to use less inputs just to keep costs low, resulting in employees being alienated and growth of dysfunctional operations. This can also because the manager thinks that employees are inefficient or corrupt which as per him is root of all the problems. Similar to how IK always refers to "pichli chor hakoomatain"

[panther]

He is the last of the 'clean shaven'.

[MechEng]

3 hours ago, Autonomous said:

I agree with your observations. 

 

But there are way too many other facets as well in his personality. 

 

For instance, he has diverted attention from his self-inflicted political/economic chaos to india/kashmir issue. 

 

There is "tunnel vision" problem as well with him. This is evident in his economic policies where he has set 1-2 indicators and keeps bragging about them while he has destroyed other economic fronts like the development. With Imran Khan it is like that hotel chef/manager who tries to keep costs so low that he crashes out on other fronts like quality, taste, hygeine, and on top of that beats **** out of employees to use less inputs just to keep costs low, resulting in employees being alienated and growth of dysfunctional operations. This can also because the manager thinks that employees are inefficient or corrupt which as per him is root of all the problems. Similar to how IK always refers to "pichli chor hakoomatain"

Agreed with last para but factually he cannot do more than that, he can definitely not go beyond the limits imposed by the army on the overall socio-economic machinery of Pakistan. In fact I remember last year there was a meeting between Pakistan army and Pakistani corporate leaders to discuss the economy and Imran Khan was not present in the meeting! Can you imagine the Prime Minister/President of a country not attending a meeting like this?

 

Panama papers were one of the reasons for Nawaz Sharif to be kicked out, but the biggest reason was that he was business minded and was not unconditionally obedient to the army. Correct me if I am wrong but I see the army generals as the cream of Pakistani elite.

[Autonomous]

1 hour ago, MechEng said:

Agreed with last para but factually he cannot do more than that, he can definitely not go beyond the limits imposed by the army on the overall socio-economic machinery of Pakistan. In fact I remember last year there was a meeting between Pakistan army and Pakistani corporate leaders to discuss the economy and Imran Khan was not present in the meeting! Can you imagine the Prime Minister/President of a country not attending a meeting like this?

 

Panama papers were one of the reasons for Nawaz Sharif to be kicked out, but the biggest reason was that he was business minded and was not unconditionally obedient to the army. Correct me if I am wrong but I see the army generals as the cream of Pakistani elite.

Shariff got elected by power of our vote. 

 

These guys with their tamasha politics of dharna and dhandli f****d us up big time. On top of that, he had the "big boss" on his side as well in couple of years post 2013 elections. 

 

Look at some of Imran Khan's videos and container speeches from 2013-2018. I would have put him behind bars for anti-state and anti-national interest comments. The guy burnt his electricity bill in front of crowd and asked everyone to stop paying bills as well as taxes. 

Edited May 7, 2020 by Autonomous

[Vancouver]

Imran Khan has nothing in common with Pakistani's. He is an elite on global scale. Wearing Salwar Kameez or Peshawari Chapal does not make you desi. He is a brown Gora like Sashi Tharoor. He won't be overwhelmed in any leadership role. He views browns beneath him and sees Whites as his equivalent, very racist towards Asians and Blacks. He has very strong determination, very narcissistic like Trump. People attribute his looks for his popularity among women but it's his alpha confidence which attracts everyone to him. He views Modi as inferior, but world politics is not a dating app. His arrogance is akin to Indira Gandhi, only she from all Indian politicians can rival him when it comes to narcissistic behavior. When populace is timid, they crave for such leaders. Zia Ul Haq and Indira Gandhi were product of desi timidness.  He fooled and played Pakistanis to vote for him like Arvind Kejriwal did to Delhiites and Punjabis, with help of social media popularity. Imran is NOT corrupt but he is so arrogant and won't listen to anybody, a corrupt but competent leader is better for nation than someone like him.

Edited May 8, 2020 by Vancouver

[MechEng]

1 hour ago, Vancouver said:

Imran Khan has nothing in common with Pakistani's. He is an elite on global scale. Wearing Salwar Kameez or Peshawari Chapal does not make you desi. He is a brown Gora like Sashi Tharoor. He won't be overwhelmed in any leadership role. He views browns beneath him and sees Whites as his equivalent, very racist towards Asians and Blacks. He has very strong determination, very narcissistic like Trump. People attribute his looks for his popularity among women but it's his alpha confidence which attracts everyone to him. He views Modi as inferior, but world politics is not a dating app. His arrogance is akin to Indira Gandhi, only she from all Indian politicians can rival him when it comes to narcissistic behavior. When populace is timid, they crave for such leaders. Zia Ul Haq and Indira Gandhi were product of desi timidness.  He fooled and played Pakistanis to vote for him like Arvind Kejriwal did to Delhiites and Punjabis, with help of social media popularity. Imran is NOT corrupt but he is so arrogant and won't listen to anybody, a corrupt but competent leader is better for nation than someone like him.

Modi appears most alpha, in fact only Putin rivals him in alpha factor. And I am far from being pro BJP/Modi.

Edited May 8, 2020 by MechEng

[Autonomous]

12 hours ago, Vancouver said:

Imran Khan has nothing in common with Pakistani's. He is an elite on global scale. Wearing Salwar Kameez or Peshawari Chapal does not make you desi. He is a brown Gora like Sashi Tharoor. He won't be overwhelmed in any leadership role. He views browns beneath him and sees Whites as his equivalent, very racist towards Asians and Blacks. He has very strong determination, very narcissistic like Trump. People attribute his looks for his popularity among women but it's his alpha confidence which attracts everyone to him. He views Modi as inferior, but world politics is not a dating app. His arrogance is akin to Indira Gandhi, only she from all Indian politicians can rival him when it comes to narcissistic behavior. When populace is timid, they crave for such leaders. Zia Ul Haq and Indira Gandhi were product of desi timidness.  He fooled and played Pakistanis to vote for him like Arvind Kejriwal did to Delhiites and Punjabis, with help of social media popularity. Imran is NOT corrupt but he is so arrogant and won't listen to anybody, a corrupt but competent leader is better for nation than someone like him.

Depends upon how you define corruption. 

 

I think lies, defamation, ignoring your own party's corruption, and political appointments are also forms of corruption. 

 

Imran also likes to badmouth people which is not the way to go as you even need your opponents when in govt.

 

Best of Imran was common border of germany and japan.