Indian Batsmen averaging close to 60 in Test cricket

[kaptaan]

1 hour ago, Rasgulla said:

unmm you mean the guy the guy that was thrown out and replaced by part time wicket keeper KL Rahul ? Says alot about those dead rubber pattas. Amount of runs Dhoni scored in first ever away England tour and especially Winning series says alot. 52 average and his crucial 92 is better than any innings played by any wk. Obviously selfish chamchas wouldn't have a clue about it because ailiaaaa 100 mara even if India lost.

Thailam chamchas don't know that Sachin has 40 100s in test cricket where India didn't lose the match. Only Kallis has better number (42)

[Rasgulla]

5 hours ago, kaptaan said:

Taking credit for others' contribution started from here 

Sorry he didn't get whitewashed at home like RSA did to Tendiyas team. 

[Rasgulla]

5 hours ago, kaptaan said:

Taking credit for others' contribution started from here 

Yeh sachin wasn't part of that T20WC that's his biggest contribution orelse he would have choked as usual. 

[Rasgulla]

5 hours ago, kaptaan said:

Never knew Rishabh Pant got replaced in test cricket by a part time wicket keeper. Dhoni is lucky in that sense. Didn't get replaced by anyone even after being pathetic for more than a decade 

Coming to the part time wicket keeper. The part-time wicket keeper has more 100s in New Zealand than Thailam has in his entire career.  

Dead rubber pattas - Dhoni couldnt manage to score a single 100 even on those 'dead rubber pattas' 

 

 

He was replaced by KL in white ball format and Saha took his place in Tests. He was thrown out like trash Has more average in that winning series in England than Ailiaaaaa. Chamchas should know their aukat. 

[kaptaan]

34 minutes ago, Rasgulla said:

He was replaced by KL in white ball format and Saha took his place in Tests. He was thrown out like trash Has more average in that winning series in England than Ailiaaaaa. Chamchas should know their aukat. 

Someone who got thrown out like trash also has more 100s in SENA than Thailam. Let that sink in. Talk about aukat now 

[kaptaan]

38 minutes ago, Rasgulla said:

Yeh sachin wasn't part of that T20WC that's his biggest contribution orelse he would have choked as usual. 

 

Chokes by our Thailam 

[kaptaan]

42 minutes ago, Rasgulla said:

Sorry he didn't get whitewashed at home like RSA did to Tendiyas team. 

But got white washed 4-0 in Aus, England and then lost home series against Eng. Brought No.1 ranked team to No.7 and then ran away 

Edited September 2, 2020 by kaptaan

[Skipper]

4 minutes ago, kaptaan said:

 

Chokes by our Thailam 

wow …. I  knew that he choked in lot of random matches but even in ICC barring 2011 final he has choked mostly.

[zen]

7 hours ago, New guy said:

I completely agree. On so many forums of other countries, over the years, i have seen sachin compared with everyone from Bradman, Lara, De Silva, Waughs, even jayasuriya, Afridi, to now Cook, Root, Babbar. I have always told them, the day a player will be greater or Sachin will be lesser is when Sachin is removed from that one constant of comparison and someone else takes their place. One player cannot be hogging almost every comparison and then you claiming he is no where near the top

It is mostly the Sachin fanboys who are doing the comparison

[Rasgulla]

51 minutes ago, kaptaan said:

Someone who got thrown out like trash also has more 100s in SENA than Thailam. Let that sink in. Talk about aukat now 

100 obsessed midget fansunlike you I  Only care about winning watches not his useless selfish 100 and costing matches against BD. 

[Rasgulla]

51 minutes ago, kaptaan said:

But got white washed 4-0 in Aus, England and then lost home series against Eng. Brought No.1 ranked team to No.7 and then ran away 

Got India to no.1 in test rankings you never said. Ailiaaa fans have no right to talk about captaincy. Got whitewashed at home shamelessly and he was thrown out just to be replaced with Ganguly.

Edited September 2, 2020 by Rasgulla

[Rasgulla]

1 hour ago, kaptaan said:

 

Chokes by our Thailam 

Man of the match and WC 2011 in 1 pic. Performed when it matters unlike midget who always chokes in finals

Edited September 2, 2020 by Rasgulla

[zen]

2 minutes ago, Rasgulla said:

Man of the match and WC 2011 in 1 pic. Performed when it matters unless midget who always chokes in finals

Though not a big fan of Dhoni’s last leg of his career - Dhoni coming out to bat with Ind at 114/3  is an iconic moment .... Played good knocks in 2015 and 2019 WC SFs as well

Also his contribution as a keeper and captain cannot be overlooked! 

 

[Rasgulla]

8 minutes ago, zen said:

Though not a big fan of Dhoni’s last leg of his career - Dhoni coming out to bat with Ind at 114/3  is an iconic moment .... Played good knocks in 2015 and 2019 WC SFs as well

Also his contribution as a keeper and captain cannot be overlooked! 

 

It's funny people have balls to say it's only one match. I mean dude that's the only big thing we have since 1984    2011 WC would be a just another cup if he choked like ailiaaa in 2003 finals. Not that he did anything special in 2011 finals but still... There is a reason Tendiya could never be a successful captain.

Edited September 2, 2020 by Rasgulla

[zen]

@Rasgulla MO batting in ODIs

 

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Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0
MS Dhoni	2005-2019	289	248	71	8580	139*	48.47	9983	85.94	5	62	6
R Dravid	1996-2007	161	151	24	4941	109*	38.90	6851	72.12	3	41	7
M Azharuddin	1985-2000	239	227	40	6813	111*	36.43	9014	75.58	4	43	4
DB Vengsarkar	1978-1991	83	76	14	2223	95*	35.85	3218	69.08	0	16	5
Yuvraj Singh	2000-2017	243	224	28	6988	150	35.65	8136	85.88	11	41	16
A Jadeja	1992-2000	128	115	25	3157	119	35.07	4274	73.86	4	14	6
SR Tendulkar	1989-2007	95	91	14	2563	113	33.28	3321	77.17	3	18	8
SK Raina	2005-2018	175	154	25	4266	106	33.06	4641	91.91	2	27	12
N Kapil Dev	1978-1994	205	185	35	3423	87	22.82	3654	93.67	0	13	13

 

 

If you take MO batting + Keeping + Captaincy, Dhoni is probably the most valuable ODI cricketer of India 

Edited September 2, 2020 by zen

[New guy]

1 hour ago, zen said:

It is mostly the Sachin fanboys who are doing the comparison

 Not really threads are opened by that countries fans saying X player is better than sachin 

[New guy]

57 minutes ago, Rasgulla said:

It's funny people have balls to say it's only one match. I mean dude that's the only big thing we have since 1984    2011 WC would be a just another cup if he choked like ailiaaa in 2003 finals. Not that he did anything special in 2011 finals but still... There is a reason Tendiya could never be a successful captain.

And if sachin hadn't played well in 2011 semis, it would have been just another cup like 87, 92, 96, 99, 2007, 2015 where we were eliminated at semis or before 

[Rasgulla]

7 minutes ago, New guy said:

And if sachin hadn't played well in 2011 semis, it would have been just another cup like 87, 92, 96, 99, 2007, 2015 where we were eliminated at semis or before 

 Good joke. He wasn't there in 2007 t20 WC we won. He wasn't there in 2013 CT we won. We were in finals of 2014 and 2017 aswell. 

[zen]

6 minutes ago, New guy said:

And if sachin hadn't played well in 2011 semis, it would have been just another cup like 87, 92, 96, 99, 2007, 2015 where we were eliminated at semis or before 

I agree that each knock has relevance. I watched all of Sachin's knocks in semi finals. 

 

• 96 SF. Looked the best batsman from the team (was in form too) but should have continued on (the difference b/w SL batsmen and Indian batsman in the tournament) esp. since the pitch was getting difficult to bat. Though India can't complain as it won the toss and chose to field 
• 03 SF: Was against Kenya. So would not dwell on it much. Ganguly helped himself to a 100
• 11 SF: A relatively nervous knock but helped Ind post a total on the board. Departed at 187, so credit to Dhoni and Raina as well for taking Ind to 260. 

 

In 1996, Ind was bundled out post his dismissal. In 2011, the story could have been repeated if not for some fighting knocks down the order (and that Pak has lost somehow in WCs). They are all good knocks. The issue is not putting some runs on board but going a step further to close the deal for the team - Ponting in 2003, Arvinda in 1996. In the two finals Sachin played in, Ind was chasing. As the most experienced player in the team, fans had more expectations. 

 

 

 

[cricketfan28]

2 hours ago, Skipper said:

wow …. I  knew that he choked in lot of random matches but even in ICC barring 2011 final he has choked mostly.

Dhoni never choked , he just didn't care. There is a big difference. In those matches he probably was experimenting new things (lile he always does )and thought that was more important than winning/contributing for  the match.