All Rounders Do Not Exist Part - II

[Ankit_sharma03]

3 hours ago, Khota said:

There are multiple sports I follow and there is only one cricket team I follow. Pandya was not an allrounder yestreday and had no impact on the game.

like many specialist werent specialist yesterday doing nothing. Atleast those guys always has a 2nd chance to contribute in 2nd aspect even if one doesnt work but when specialist fails he becomes 0

Edited November 28, 2020 by Ankit_sharma03

[Khota]

21 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

u think 375 can be chased against this attack to start with , even with 7 specialist batsman that wasnt possible

375 is a tough target against Australia but if there is any team in the world that could do it, it is India.

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, Khota said:

375 is a tough target against Australia but if there is any team in the world that could do it, it is India.

 

if their is any side in the world that can do it its England 

Aus n Ind only in case Warner n Rohit works with very good support .......that total is not in zone of current kohli, dhawan, smith, Finch (may be) 

[Khota]

26 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

like many specialist werent specialist yesterday doing nothing. Atleast those guys always has a 2nd chance to contribute in 2nd aspect even if one doesnt work but when specialist fails he becomes 0

It is the specialist who won the game for Australia.

[Khota]

3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

if their is any side in the world that can do it its England 

Aus n Ind only in case Warner n Rohit works with very good support .......that total is not in zone of current kohli, dhawan, smith, Finch (may be) 

You give England too much credit. They are very average. 

India>>>>england

[Khota]

6 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

if their is any side in the world that can do it its England 

Aus n Ind only in case Warner n Rohit works with very good support .......that total is not in zone of current kohli, dhawan, smith, Finch (may be) 

If KL, Dhawana and Kohli do their job and Agarwal and Iyer had more experience it was achieveable.

[Ankit_sharma03]

3 minutes ago, Khota said:

You give England too much credit. They are very average. 

India>>>>england

 

they are world champions we didnt even reach finals and a t20 wc before they were in final we were not....so england is miles ahead in LOI then us 

 

5 minutes ago, Khota said:

It is the specialist who won the game for Australia.

 and for india specialist who lost

But for aus even it was also maxwell innings and stonis spell that made a huge change 

[zen]

22 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

like many specialist werent specialist yesterday doing nothing. Atleast those guys always has a 2nd chance to contribute in 2nd aspect even if one doesnt work but when specialist fails he becomes 0

 

Last game was a big failure for specialists in general w/ Mayank, Kohli, Iyer, KL, Saini, Bumrah & Chahal failing .... A team has 9-10 specialists and still we see such a high proportion of them failing .... Shami did well, Dhawan was decent (slowed down considerably in the middle overs), Jadeja was good w/ the ball & SDP, of course, the best player 

 

 

PS Dhawan-SDP p'ship:  128 runs in 127 balls

 

S Dhawan 42 (60); HH Pandya 81 (67) .... So Dhawan's SR was 70% in that p'ship (not even run a ball when chasing 375) 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 minute ago, Khota said:

If KL, Dhawana and Kohli do their job and Agarwal and Iyer had more experience it was achieveable.

 

Nope not even then, KL may be or kohli during his young days but not now ..... 375 cannot be achieved 99 % times if so u need players like warner rohit abdv to do the damage from ball 1 

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 minute ago, zen said:

 

Last game was a big failure for specialists in general w/ Mayank, Kohli, Iyer, KL, Saini, Bumrah & Chahal failing .... A team has 9-10 specialists and still we see such a high proportion of them failing .... Shami did well, Dhawan was decent (slowed down considerably in the middle overs), Jadeja was good w/ the ball & SDP, of course, the best player 

 

 

 

NZ n this Aus series basically on specialist - kohli bumrah has failed in both (bumrah understandable as he is coming from injury )

[Khota]

14 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

they are world champions we didnt even reach finals and a t20 wc before they were in final we were not....so england is miles ahead in LOI then us 

 

 and for india specialist who lost

But for aus even it was also maxwell innings and stonis spell that made a huge change 

They are the world champions because of some gifted umpiring and India playing 3 wkt keepers.

 

That was India's to lose and Shastri should take blame for that.

[Khota]

16 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

they are world champions we didnt even reach finals and a t20 wc before they were in final we were not....so england is miles ahead in LOI then us 

 

 and for india specialist who lost

But for aus even it was also maxwell innings and stonis spell that made a huge change 

Runs were scored by bats whose job was to score runs.

[Khota]

17 minutes ago, zen said:

 

Last game was a big failure for specialists in general w/ Mayank, Kohli, Iyer, KL, Saini, Bumrah & Chahal failing .... A team has 9-10 specialists and still we see such a high proportion of them failing .... Shami did well, Dhawan was decent (slowed down considerably in the middle overs), Jadeja was good w/ the ball & SDP, of course, the best player 

 

 

PS Dhawan-SDP p'ship:  128 runs in 127 balls

 

S Dhawan 42 (60); HH Pandya 81 (67) .... So Dhawan's SR was 70% in that p'ship (not even run a ball when chasing 375) 

 

Specialist for Australia thrived.

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, Khota said:

They are the world champions because of some gifted umpiring and India playing 3 wkt keepers.

 

Nonsense 3 keeper

 

India won CT 2013 with 2 keepers in lineup- DK n dhoni 

England also plays 2 wks butler n bairstrow and soon they ll have billings also 

WI plays 2 keeper- hope n pooran

Sa had de kock n ABDV (who started as keeper)

 

Jaago 2020 ho gaya hai 

 

Chalo umpiring take, They reached final twice recently we didnt....kab tak umpiring ko blame karoge 

 

Just now, Khota said:

 

That was India's to lose and Shastri should take blame for that.

 

didnt knew he went in to bat for kohli, rohit, rahul 

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 minute ago, Khota said:

Specialist for Australia thrived.

 

 

starc a specialist gave so many runs that stonis the all rounder came n covered his spell, they worked whole as team

 

Sach bata kal baseball dekh raha tha na

[zen]

Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

NZ n this Aus series basically on specialist - kohli bumrah has failed in both (bumrah understandable as he is coming from injury )

 

A team plays 9-10 specialists of which a large proportion fail due to inconsistency .... Usually only a team of ATG players can hope to have a large proportion of its specialists doing well (because they are ATG players). Leveraging ARs in a regular side is a no brainer 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

5 minutes ago, Khota said:

They are the world champions because of some gifted umpiring and India playing 3 wkt keepers.

 

 

koi na 3 wc aa rahe hai 1 to pakka jeetenge 

[zen]

18 minutes ago, Khota said:

Specialist for Australia thrived.

 

 

You can only claim that if 100% of "specialists" thrive on the day (which is not going to be the case) .... In that case, ARs/special skills players in Aus thrived too (Stonis in bowling; Maxwell in batting) 

 

A big logical fallacy of your thread is that you are cherry picking performances from 9-10 specialists (when a large proportion of them fail and are inconsistent) that the "winning" team fields in a 11 v 1-2 ARs 

Edited November 28, 2020 by zen

[nitinbwj]

6 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

koi na 3 wc aa rahe hai 1 to pakka jeetenge 

Kuch nahin jeetenge with this squad. Kohli is a walking wicket and Bumrah can’t buy a wicket nowadays. Sharma Ji has fitness issues. 

Edited November 28, 2020 by nitinbwj

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 minute ago, nitinbwj said:

Kuch nahin jeetenge with this squad. Kohli is a walking wicket and Bumrah can’t but a wicket nowadays. Sharma Ji has fitness issues. 

 

Im talking about england, they ll win atleast 1 in 3 can even win all 

India ka to likh ke deta hu jab tak kohli kaptaan hai na India jeetegi na RCB

Edited November 28, 2020 by Ankit_sharma03