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IPL star allrounder battle :Marcus Stoinis vs Hardik Pandya vs Sam Curran

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similar type players.

 

Stoinis is a better overall batsman

 

Pandya is a lot more destructive.

 

Stoinis is relatively better against fast bowling and Pandya better against spin. Obviously product of their formative years of cricket.

 

Pandya is the much better bowler talent wise  but Stoinis is fitter so contributes a lot more.

 

Fielding they both are outstanding 

 

what do you think, fair comparison?

 

Stokes is in a different league and Russell is on decline so I rate him behind these 2 at the moment. Woakes is a proper bowling allrounder. 
 

Maybe Sam Curran can be brought into this debate too even though I always thought he is a bowler who can bat but I might be wrong, there is something here.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Where is andre russell and stokes ?? 


russell is yesterday’s news.

 

Stokes is elite category and there will be times he will look worse than these names but there are times he will win you games singlehandedly - start to finish.

 

Not fair to compare him with LoI specialists like  Stoinis or Pandya.

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2 minutes ago, Global.Baba said:


russell is yesterday’s news.

 

Stokes is elite category and there will be times he will look worse than these names but there are times he will win you games singlehandedly - start to finish.

 

Not fair to compare him with LoI specialists like  Stoinis or Pandya.

 

Stokes till now has been a failure in t20 cricket

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8 minutes ago, Global.Baba said:


man of the tournament in IPL. There are lesser players who have been hyped here on a couple of 6’s a lot more. Give me Stokes any day over such players even if he has a 0 T20 record.

 

Too add to his heroics in tests and wc.

 

 

just one good season...hardik must have had more then few by now . Apart from that stokes have clearly struggled in IPL n international t20 

hitting 6 from ball 1 isnt easy stokes must have realized by now which is why he has a terrible avg in t20 and not even a good strike rate for a batsman batting at 5-6 , talk that when ben stokes does it easily. Only way ben stokes can work is batting up ....those hitting 6 from ball 1 in lower- middle isnt his cup of tea . Anybody...let stokes try doing russell n pandya role in t20 :phehe:

 

No wonder ur so out of touch with modern cricket that u talk about test n odi in t20 cricket. Also if i can remind u once gave ross taylor example for t20 another flop in t20 and much recently that ull choose rahane n jadhav over sky

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3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

just one good season...hardik must have had more then few by now . Apart from that stokes have clearly struggled in IPL n international t20 

hitting 6 from ball 1 isnt easy stokes must have realized by now which is why he has a terrible avg in t20 and not even a good strike rate for a batsman batting at 5-6 , talk that when ben stokes does it easily. Only way ben stokes can work is batting up ....those hitting 6 from ball 1 in lower- middle isnt his cup of tea . Anybody...let stokes try doing russell n pandya role in t20 :phehe:

 

No wonder ur so out of touch with modern cricket that u talk about test n odi in t20 cricket. Also if i can remind u once gave ross taylor example for t20 another flop in t20 and much recently that ull choose rahane n jadhav over sky


Unbelievable that in the year 2021 I am arguing with someone to prove how clutch and crucial Ben Stokes is regardless of the format and how much of a quality he is.

 

You can invest in Dube etc and ignore guys like Stokes when you have your own IpL team :laugh:. Are you part of RCB management?

 

 

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Just now, Global.Baba said:


Unbelievable that in the year 2021 I am arguing with someone to prove how clutch and crucial Ben Stokes is regardless of the format and how much of a quality he is.

 

ur arguing his performances of ODI n test in t20 which is irrelevant 

Ur making a role of hitting sixes role in lower middle order  like a joke which ben stokes has failed miserably at 

 

Just now, Global.Baba said:

You can invest in Dube etc and ignore guys like Stokes when you have your own IpL team :laugh:. Are you part of RCB management?

 

 

 

Coz in India i dnt have andre russell na....u gotta make do with whatever u have unless we can start poaching. 

IF i have an IPL team, actually forget me and put these 3 are in auction - russell, pandya, stokes....im betting russell n pandya will go at much much higher price then stokes ....invite franchises around the world and see the result

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18 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

ur arguing his performances of ODI n test in t20 which is irrelevant 

Ur making a role of hitting sixes role in lower middle order  like a joke which ben stokes has failed miserably at 

 

 

Coz in India i dnt have andre russell na....u gotta make do with whatever u have unless we can start poaching. 

IF i have an IPL team, actually forget me and put these 3 are in auction - russell, pandya, stokes....im betting russell n pandya will go at much much higher price then stokes ....invite franchises around the world and see the result


Just FYI, Stokes is currently worth more than both Pandya and Russell in IPL.

 

Also Stokes is a guy who you build a team around .

 

Would Afridi be more valuable  than Kohli in T20 absolutely?

 

doesn’t make sense and this is exactly why I didn’t put Stokes in the title as he is a different kind of player. Just because you like to watch Pandya and Russell hit 6’s doesn’t make  Stokes a low quality player.

 

Also T20 is not a different sport, it is still cricket and has the same aesthetics of cricket. You talk like this is baseball or something.

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9 minutes ago, Global.Baba said:


Just FYI, Stokes is currently worth more than both Pandya and Russell IPL.

 

do u know how auction works ??? To judge everyone equally they all must be put in same auction not that one guys goes in mega aucition n other in mini coz obviously the one in mini will earn more. 

 

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Also Stokes is a guy who you build a team against.

 

thats the problem ur stuck in 90s , u dnt build a side around one player...u build a side that has every option avl .

 

  • Mumbai indians isnt build around one player 
  • England is struggling to fit stokes in t20 side 

 

Thats what side compositions are 

 

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Would Afridi be more valuable  than Kohli in T20 absolutely?

 

only a fool wud compare kohli n afridi 2 completely different kind of player

FYI afridi won 2009 t20 Wc for pakistan and was MOS in 2007 Wc , so afridi has a trophy 

 

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doesn’t make sense and this is exactly why I didn’t put Stokes in the title as he is a different kind of player. Just because you like to watch Pandya and Russell hit 6’s doesn’t make  Stokes a high quality player.

 

Uff quality, rahane also has high quality but cnt fit in side. Steyn had way more quality but guys like starc n malinga were better in t20....different format different skill 

 

I know they do different role, actually for their franchises they have been doing similar roles which is where stokes have failed. So dnt call him elite coz of other formats, in t20 he ll only work once he bats up and that is yet to happen. 

 

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Also T20 is not a different sport, it is still cricket and has the same aesthetics of cricket. You talk like this is baseball or something.

now ur down to khota level 

 

t20, test and ODI require different skills and i shudnt be explaining those basics 

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Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

also its t20 few sixes are enough to change the game on its head, who better then stokes to know it 

 

 


so you show the video from 2016 but ignored the fact that in 2017 he was man of the tournament in IPL :hysterical:

 

Anyway what exactly are you trying to

Prove here ?

 

Let me help you in ending this conversation 

 

Stokes is a bits and pieces player who shouldn’t have been picked and is not worthy of playing in IPL. Ab Khush?

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Just now, zen said:

Last yr it was on SDP’s finishing skills that finished off baba. This season baba again has a thread on SDP, hoping that he would fail and a few other known distractions would join too :lol: 

 

 


what? This is just to see which allrounder will do better. The biggest allrounders in T20 right now are the names in the OP.

 

I excluded Stokes, Russell, Woakes for a reason as they don’t fit the type of these players. Russell because he is done and dusted and fat now.

 

Holder too has a different utility.

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2 minutes ago, Global.Baba said:


so you show the video from 2016 but ignored the fact that in 2017 he was man of the tournament in IPL :hysterical:

 

Anyway what exactly are you trying to

Prove here ?

 

Let me help you in ending this conversation 

 

Stokes is a bits and pieces player who shouldn’t have been picked and is not worthy of playing in IPL. Ab Khush?

 

He is elite coz of one tournament and guys like russell n pandya who perform yr after yr isnt 

 

That its not right to call him elite in t20 with him struggling in the format at a role which frankly isnt suited to him but to discard others like pandya n russell who do it well is childish. 

 

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