Is bad pitch an excuse for poor bowling returns?

[Global.Baba]

Shouldn’t a bowler with good skills make things happen on any pitch?

 

Hypothetically speaking and I know it is not even a contest but If Cummins needs bouncy pitches to be effective then why do we write off someone like say Sakariya for doing well on slow pitches.

 

I am not going by today’s performance by fast bowlers because anyone can have a bad day individually or collectively but I don’t get this excuse.

 

Sure a good batsman who scores 50(25) on a flat pitch should be able to score a 50(35) type knock on a relatively tougher pitch but why are fast bowlers not able to adapt?

[zen]

3 minutes ago, Global.Baba said:

Shouldn’t a bowler with good skills make things happen on any pitch?

 

Hypothetically speaking and I know it is not even a contest but If Cummins needs bouncy pitches to be effective then why do we write off someone like say Sakariya for doing well on slow pitches.

 

I am not going by today’s performance by fast bowlers because anyone can have a bad day individually or collectively but I don’t get this excuse.

 

Sure a good batsman who scores 50(25) on a flat pitch should be able to score a 50(35) type knock on a relatively tougher pitch but why are fast bowlers not able to adapt?

 

• If the avg (not par) score on a certain pitch is say 180, 4 overs for 36 = avg performance. 4 overs for 32 would be an above avg performance 
• If the avg (not par) score on a certain pitch is say 140, 4 overs for 28 = avg performance. 4 overs for 24 would be an above avg performance  
• 4 for 28 is not a better performance than 4 for 36 and vice versa 

 

Similarly for batsmen. Random numbers like 50 off 25 v 50 off 35 are just based on expectations. Only over the long run with a larger sample size, can we take a call looking at numbers (relatively speaking) 

 

 

 

[rkt.india]

Lack of accurate bowling is the biggest problem.

[Serpico]

2 hours ago, Global.Baba said:

Shouldn’t a bowler with good skills make things happen on any pitch?

 

Hypothetically speaking and I know it is not even a contest but If Cummins needs bouncy pitches to be effective then why do we write off someone like say Sakariya for doing well on slow pitches.

 

I am not going by today’s performance by fast bowlers because anyone can have a bad day individually or collectively but I don’t get this excuse.

 

Sure a good batsman who scores 50(25) on a flat pitch should be able to score a 50(35) type knock on a relatively tougher pitch but why are fast bowlers not able to adapt?

I don't think there can be a bad pitch for T20 (unless the pitch is actually dangerous to play, with uneven bounce etc)

 

In test matches, bad pitches can result in boring draws or farcical 2 day matches like in recent series and also makes Toss extremely important. In ODIs, bad pitches can result in 100 over non-stop bashing which can be very tiring. But a T20 game is too short to be affected by these differences. Even a "bad pitch" can result in entertaining T20 match if both the teams have proper quality players

[Global.Baba]

2 hours ago, Serpico said:

I don't think there can be a bad pitch for T20 (unless the pitch is actually dangerous to play, with uneven bounce etc)

 

 

Close games in the 140-180 totals range usually produce the highest quality cricket in T20.

 

200+ or 100-120 ish type games either become too boring/one sided or become too much of a lottery even when they are close.

 

On topic though I like the fact that there is a place for Cummins/Starc or a Fizz type bowler or even a Chahar/Bhuvi type swing bowler in T20 format. However it’s not anymore about who is fast and who is a trundler, there are only  good bowlers and bad ones.

[rkt.india]

5 hours ago, Global.Baba said:

Close games in the 140-180 totals range usually produce the highest quality cricket in T20.

 

200+ or 100-120 ish type games either become too boring/one sided or become too much of a lottery even when they are close.

 

On topic though I like the fact that there is a place for Cummins/Starc or a Fizz type bowler or even a Chahar/Bhuvi type swing bowler in T20 format. However it’s not anymore about who is fast and who is a trundler, there are only  good bowlers and bad ones.

Bad pitches actually takes toss out of the window.