The Outsider Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 But Indian selectors' crazy obsession with youth where someone past 23 is considered too old to have a long term career will mean that Mishra will hardly ever be picked.
Mr. Wicket Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 Absolutely not. Chawla is more youthful, and can run around in the outfield much quicker and can also bat a little bit better. I mean, UP play him at 6 so he HAS to be a really quality multidimensional prospect, right? Mishra's only got a superior record in f/c cricket with the ball and a stunning strike rate, but he's not got the youthful fearlessness of Chawla or that young energy and all round potential.
f.b.m Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 wtf? If you need a spinner and the spinner's good enough you play him. This is for test matches, of course. Mishra looks like he's better than Chawla so he should be given more chances. Doesnt matter if we have 3 number 10s in our line up.
varun Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 Absolutely not. Chawla is more youthful, and can run around in the outfield much quicker and can also bat a little bit better. I mean, UP play him at 6 so he HAS to be a really quality multidimensional prospect, right? Mishra's only got a superior record in f/c cricket with the ball and a stunning strike rate, but he's not got the youthful fearlessness of Chawla or that young energy and all round potential. LOL.. ease up on the sarcasm Goes over the heads of many here
f.b.m Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 LOL.. ease up on the sarcasm Goes over the heads of many here Especially after people like Lurker posted about "unsporting" pitches. Hah, I know too much german to get any sort of sarcasm.
Sachinism Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 from what i saw (highlights) Mishra doesnt even turn the ball, yeh i know kumble doesnt either, but when you do turn the ball, sooner or later a batsman will punish you unless you have really good speed variations
fineleg Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 from what i saw (highlights) Mishra doesnt even turn the ball' date=' yeh i know kumble doesnt either, but when you do turn the ball, sooner or later a batsman will punish you unless you have really good speed variations[/quote'] u mean *not* turning the ball is better if u dont vary speed a lot!?
Sachinism Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 u mean *not* turning the ball is better if u dont vary speed a lot!? sorry, what i meant to say was, "if you dont turn the ball, the batsmen will murder you unless you have good variations of speed (and flight)"
Cricketics Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 i have been seaying and saying that pick him... don't know why the heck so much obsession with Chawla when he ain't done jack in FC.
The Outsider Posted May 11, 2008 Author Posted May 11, 2008 Not many spinners are going to turn a ten over old ball a mile on aflat pitch. Having said that, he did beat Watson with a couple of leg breaks which had loop, drift, and turn. His googlies certainly turned and got him both his wickets and could have had Watson on another googly which was a no ball.
Ram Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 He is just 25, he's still got LOTS of time to prove his stake. We musnt forget, Bhajji may be in for some harsh punishment, so its a good chance for youngsters to prove their stake. Besides, Anil's got maximum 12 months left in him.
Zakhmi Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 May be his more talented than PC...but, PC is certain to have an edge over him as PC is already exposed to international cricket...so let him get more experience at IPL and domestic cricket...so that when Jumbo will hang his boots then he can be second option as leg-break spinner.
Mr. Wicket Posted May 12, 2008 Posted May 12, 2008 May be his more talented than PC...but' date=' PC is certain to have an edge over him as PC is already exposed to international cricket...[/quote'] Learn your GD facts dude... Mishra's also played a bit of international cricket back when Chawla was still trying to break into the U19 side.
ludhianvi Posted May 12, 2008 Posted May 12, 2008 from what i saw (highlights) Mishra doesnt even turn the ball' date=' yeh i know kumble doesnt either, but when you do turn the ball, sooner or later a batsman will punish you unless you have really good speed variations[/quote'] I''ve seen him turn the ball quite a bit in some of the domestic matches. The one thing I can see going against him is his fitness.
gator Posted May 12, 2008 Posted May 12, 2008 i have said this before, Amit is the biggest turner in the country... like someone mentioned, it is hard to turn a 10 over ball on a shiny wicket... PC turns the ball lesser than a finger spinner... but he is good, as well... but, i think, he is below Amit in tests and above him in odis
Chandan Posted May 12, 2008 Posted May 12, 2008 from what i saw (highlights) Mishra doesnt even turn the ball' date=' yeh i know kumble doesnt either, but when you do turn the ball, sooner or later a batsman will punish you unless you have really good speed variations[/quote'] Wrong! Mishra is a terrific bowler at FC level and that too keeping in mind that most of the Indian batsmen even at domestic level, don't struggle against spin unless it is really good. Mishra had bowled superbly in the 'A' match vs SA and yet when the need came, Chawla was given a break in tests. I suppose, we better get Mishra ready to take over from Kumble and let Chawla mature a bit for the longer version. Otherwise we are going to be hammered everywhere.
Sachinism Posted May 12, 2008 Posted May 12, 2008 ^^ well i only got to see highlights, which meant about 5 deliveries from him
fineleg Posted May 12, 2008 Posted May 12, 2008 ^^ 5 deliveries? Hardly enough to conclude whether he turns or not!
Sachinism Posted May 12, 2008 Posted May 12, 2008 yeh well he didnt turn any deliveries so I based my judgment on that :D
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