zubinpepsi Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 this is just gettingt better and better... Mallya wanted MSD, Uthappa, McCullum 14 May 2008, 0116 hrs IST,Mohua Chatterjee,TNN Print Save EMail Write to Editor NEW DELHI: If Vijay Mallya had his way, Mahendra Singh Dhoni, Robin Uthappa and Brendon McCullum would have donned the Royal Challengers' colours in his dream Bangalore team rather than Mark Boucher, Anil Kumble, Sunil Joshi or even Rahul Dravid, sources close to Mallya have said. But now that Challengers are almost out of the IPL tournament with a slim chance of making it to the semi-finals if they win all five remaining matches, Mallya is considering changing his players, including Dravid, next year if the rule book allows him to do so. Dravid had to be signed on following the BCCI norm of including 'icon players', despite the fact that he had never played a Twenty20 game, RCB managers say. After Mallya's outburst on Monday, RCB officials blame Dravid for choosing 'conservative' players like himself, when the team was being picked finally, even as Mallya had drawn up his own shortlist of players and was very keen on Dhoni and Uthappa, among others, according to sources close to him. In fact, RCB officials are now hoping that Dravid resigns from the team on his own. While Mallya was really keen to get Dhoni and wanted to bid for him, Dravid insisted that "there is no need for such an expensive player", sources close to Mallya said. The same went for McCullum, whom Dravid is believed to have turned down and instead settled for Mark Boucher. RCB managers were surprised when 38-year-old Sunil Joshi, a local player, was signed for $30,000 since he is not even part of the Karnataka team. The obvious reason was that "he is a very good friend of Dravid", confirmed an RCB official. Questions are also being asked on what Kumble is doing in a Twenty20 team. But being the local high profile bowler and the "quite, nice guy type" that Dravid himself is, he was an obvious choice when the captain was picking his team. Even former RCB CEO Charu Sharma, who has now been replaced by Brajesh Patel, worked out to the team's disadvantage. He is learnt to have suggested that "the boys need to bond, let's go to Ranthambore for four days", after the team lost its first match against Team Mohali, an RCB official said. The team's chief cricketing officer Martin Crowe's comment after a recent RCB defeat to his colleagues was, "We have tried all strategies, but this team is too old and too slow." When asked if team owners can change players, IPL commissioner Lalit Modi said, "The rule is fixed for the next three years. There will be eight foreign players in the team out of which four can be inducted in the playing XI. If franchisees want to sign up new players, they are welcome to do so. But in that case, they will have to pay the existing players' salary." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 You know whats the biggest indication to know if a news report is pure, unadulterated horse-sh!t? Its when terms like these appear, sources close to Mallya, RCB managers say, RCB officials blame Dravid, RCB officials are now hoping, Dravid is believed to have turned down, confirmed an RCB official, He is learnt to have suggested, The team's chief cricketing officer Martin Crowe's comment after a recent RCB defeat to his colleagues was, No names, no actual quotes... Only 'sources close to Mallya', 'RCB Managers' etc..... This is an insult to the art of journalism, pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suraj Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 You know whats the biggest indication to know if a news report is pure, unadulterated horse-sh!t? Its when terms like these appear, , , , , , , , No names, no actual quotes... Only 'sources close to Mallya', 'RCB Managers' etc..... This is an insult to the art of journalism, pathetic. exactly pathetic journalism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandan Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 You know whats the biggest indication to know if a news report is pure, unadulterated horse-sh!t? Its when terms like these appear, sources close to Mallya , RCB managers say , RCB officials blame Dravid , RCB officials are now hoping , Dravid is believed to have turned down , confirmed an RCB official , He is learnt to have suggested , The team's chief cricketing officer Martin Crowe's comment after a recent RCB defeat to his colleagues was, , , , , , , , No names, no actual quotes... Only 'sources close to Mallya', 'RCB Managers' etc..... This is an insult to the art of journalism, pathetic. Quite true. And finally what really exposes the rubbishness of the report is this: He is learnt to have suggested that "the boys need to bond, let's go to Ranthambore for four days", after the team lost its first match against Team Mohali, an RCB official said. Royal Challengers lost their first match to Knight Riders not team Mohali! Haven't you got this news from indiatimes/TOI, Zubin? That site/paper is absolutely unreliable and I'll suggest everyone not to pay any attention to news published there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Sunil Joshi's signing was the ultimate con. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HariSampath Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 You know whats the biggest indication to know if a news report is pure, unadulterated horse-sh!t? Its when terms like these appear, , , , , , , , No names, no actual quotes... Only 'sources close to Mallya', 'RCB Managers' etc..... This is an insult to the art of journalism, pathetic. Have you ever been involved with the world of journalism to pass comments like this ? I have. I have been involved professionally with some top journos of the world and they ALL use these terms to report news when the sources dont want to have their name appear as yet. There are several instances in more important news than cricket like terrorism, politics, corporate world etc where key political or business leaders themselves speak off the record to known journalists, give them inside information and say they dont want to be quoted at that time. For instance if a big leader of a political party wants to send a message to his top leadership that he is unhappy over some ministerial appointment, he himself would speak to the journo he knows well who will carry the news item as "highly placed sources confirmed that he may consider quitting the party"....and everyone knows who the "highly placed sourse " is..just that he wouldn't want to go on record. Similarily if Mallya wants some msg to go to Dravid that he wants him to resign, he would deliberately give that bit to his known journos who will then write " sources close to the team owners indicated that Mallya may want Dravid to resign"....the purpose is to convey to Dravid " I am almost ready to publicly ask for your resignation, but you still have a chance to do so by yourself". In most of these instances, the journo covering the news would be someone regularly on the "news beat" or "tracking the team"...most probably be attending all the team parties, known to players, management etc. These people use the journos too, and the journos also do a favor to these players, politicians, businessmen etc, its a win-win situation. How many times a week we read in news items covering major international stories words like " high officials who didnt want to be quoted disclosed that the intelligence community had warned the state govt even 3 weeks back"....or " top officials in the home ministry who didnt want to be named, admitted that the decision to cancel elections was taken one month back itself"....almost all these news items will be found to be accurate, and should not be confused with the frivolous items of Bollywood which run like " an actress who has been seen a lot lately with SRK is now believed to be courting his rival number 2 for a role in the forthcoming film....." this sort of journalism is mostly gossip and cr@p, but even this would have a base truth. The news regarding Mallya wanting Dhoni and Uthappa is very believable for me,, because both are known drinkers, very good T20 players , would have given a lot of boost to Mallya's liquor business, and Uthappa is from Bangalore as well. All the rest of the news are also nothing new, with almost everyone saying Dravid chose players like himself, and also used this chance to ensure his longtime cronies like Kumble and Joshi got "benefit purses". I trust that news item is fully accurate. The most important test of a news item's authenticity is how logical it is and how it fits in, and whether it is indicated elsewhere on other matters too. And this passes that test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swami1984 Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 wow I have to agree with Hari Sampath here...was gonna post something similar Dude journos often have to preserve the anonymity of their sources (if they actually disclosed the identity of this RCB official, he would be fired instantaneously, and would have a hard time finding jobs elsewhere once people get to know that he talks about internal issues to the media) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HariSampath Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Mallya may have made a mistake, but Dravid has made a HUGE blunder. You just dont take Vijay Mallya's money and fling it around to your friends under the guise of bidding for T20 players. Mallya is a bad dude, and he hates to be taken for a ride...just watch what happens. He is a rich man, very very powerful at top levels, and wont take this lying down, especially when he has been made a fool of in front of the world. I think we are just watching the begining, and Mallya will make Dravid regret the day he went against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianRenegade Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 To bring in men like Sunil Joshi is nothing but favoritism on part of Dravid.... and he has to pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 To bring in men like Sunil Joshi is nothing but favoritism on part of Dravid.... and he has to pay for it. Sunil Joshi could be a friend of any number of people in that stupid org. Anyways, when the org has decided to blame everything on Dravid, it is easy to dump one more on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianRenegade Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Sunil Joshi could be a friend of any number of people in that stupid org. Anyways' date=' when the org has decided to blame everything on Dravid, it is easy to dump one more on him.[/quote'] Sunil Joshi featured in 4 out of the first 5 games of BRC, sure Dravid had nothing to do with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zap_Brannigan Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Are all people blaming the selection of the blore team ,put the same blame on the Hyderabad team?? 20-20 is a relatively new format, whose niggles and issues are not yet known to anyone....Then add the salary cap, foreign player limitations, international tour etc.. It needed pretty complicated planning.It was extremely stupid to put the responsibility on one or a couple of persons. It is pretty safe to say none of the team, got it right. Hyd filled the team with big hitters,but yet it rests in the bottom of the pit. Chennai had a batting heavy team for the 1st 4 games and now cannot find space for nitini. Delhi is top heavy in both batting and bowling and just has fillers for the rest of the position. Did all the team franchises expect to be successful both on the field and off the field in its very 1st year?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Sunil Joshi featured in 4 out of the first 5 games of BRC' date=' sure Dravid had nothing to do with him.[/quote'] Not saying Dravid isn't capable of stupid decisions. Even Dhoni played A. Srikkanth in place of Vidyut who scored a 50 just 2 games prior. Just that no one knows who picked whom and who was played because who overruled whom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandan Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 'Pointing fingers easy, but no one plays to lose': An upset Kumble stands up for Dravid I totally understand that everyone’s upset about the results so far, as players and professional cricketers, we are all very upset too, writes Anil Kumble. LINK At a tough time, we expect support and backing Anil Kumble May 16, 2008 First Published: 00:32 IST(16/5/2008) Last Updated: 00:42 IST(16/5/2008) Over this past week, there’ve been lots of things happening from the team’s perspective and it’s not been a particularly happy time. What is far more important to say, on behalf of so many other players too, is that we are shocked and saddened by what has happened in Jaipur. Terror attacks are always senseless and cruel. They can never be justified by any logic and my heart goes out to all the victims who have suffered and the families they have left behind. Life will obviously never be the same again. Lack of momentum doing us in Coming back to the Royal Challengers and the happenings of the past few days, while I totally understand that everyone's upset about the results so far... as players and professional cricketers, we are all very upset too. We all want to go out and win every game that we play. The problem? We haven't really got any kind of momentum and something or the other has happened when we have managed to get something going. In the last game too, Misbah started brilliantly and then got out in unusual fashion. What's important though, is that at this time, you need all the support and backing you can get. You need the people around you, the people who matter, to understand what sport is all about, to realise that no one goes out there to lose. What’s unfortunate is that, invariably, everyone starts pointing fingers at the captain. So it stands all the more to reason that people within the camp then stand up and say 'we believe in you and your team. That’s what’s most important in this kind of situation. Corporate look but still cricket I do understand that the IPL is different and there is a corporate look and feel to the whole concept. But having said that, at the end of the day, it is a cricket match — one that a cricketer does not want to lose. As players, we go through various ups and downs in our careers, there are phases when nothing one does is wrong and there are others where the same things that come so naturally to you seem like alien concepts. But as cricketers, we also know the bad times will pass, that we will pick ourselves up and bounce back. There’s nothing new in that and I expect we will here too. It might be somewhat late for this tournament and that's unfortunate, but we have a bunch of proven quality players and nothing can take that away. People have to understand that the most important aspect of becoming a sportsman is the joy of winning and the successes you have, the successes you taste. The whole aim of playing sport is in the challenge, in competing, in giving your all to do better than the guy who's facing you. At the same time, most of us will have our fair share of failures but there's another sweet joy in coming back from those defeats, almost always much stronger. Adaptability the key T20 cricket is a totally different format and as an international cricketer who has played this game for so long, I clearly understand (as most of us who play the game do) that Test cricket is the ultimate joy, the absolute challenge. If you are a Test cricketer, you can adapt to any form of the game, but the other way around, it doesn't always work out. If you look at the successes that teams playing in the IPL have had, it's mostly been about the top three batters going on to bat the team to a big score. That will clearly be the focus of our discussion ahead of the game scheduled for Saturday. The Rajasthan Royals have had a fantastic run so far, they have gelled really well as a team, although at the start, not many gave them any chance of going the distance. At this point, they're right up there. They've never lost a match at their home ground and depending on prevailing circumstances allowing us to play there, it's important for us to change that. We'll be giving it our best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msb1991 Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 Good for Anil to stand up for Dravid. Dravid has been given undue criticism. He took a risk with the 'Test' side in the IPL and it didn't pay off - no need to call for his head as many have been doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HariSampath Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 $500,000 X 3 = $ 1.5 millions ( AK's simple equation ) Courtesy ; Rahul Dravid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fineleg Posted May 16, 2008 Author Share Posted May 16, 2008 AK and RD shud not have gotten into this T20 circus. Just prepare for the SL test series and do well there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomainK Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 AK and RD shud not have gotten into this T20 circus. Just prepare for the SL test series and do well there. Spot on. They are making mockery of themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satishg Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 i can atleast understand RD participating in this..but AK after retiring frm ODIs y shd he get himself involved in this format..hmm money sometimes influences even the strongest ppl around.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fineleg Posted May 16, 2008 Author Share Posted May 16, 2008 i can atleast understand RD participating in this..but AK after retiring frm ODIs y shd he get himself involved in this format..hmm money sometimes influences even the strongest ppl around.. Yep, I'd have hoped AK did not get into this circus, but money can influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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