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Building a bowling attack for this year t20 Wc

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1 minute ago, Chakdephatte said:

 

Bravo at 8 is called batting depth. Chahar at 8 is called fake batting depth. Tailenders are not expecting to win you matches but if they do, problem is in top 7, not depth.

 

Team India management want a batsman at 8 because they know that they will carry 2 or 3 duds in thd top 5.

 

And this is happening in tests as well as LOIs.

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8 minutes ago, Jay said:

For sure I like the concept for t20. 

I was thinking in test and odi context long term. My mind automatically only thinks of tests lol. 

 

Think of great Aussie side of 2000. 

 

Mcgrath (number 11 proper)

Gillespie (number 11 more or less)

Lee (he can bat actually)

Warne (decent hitter)

 

We need that one fiery bowler from our outstanding pace attack to be able to bat. I am not referring to chahar pandya shardul type players. I want to see one of the premier bowlers get to a lee level batting standard. We lack that. It does on occasion cost is tests in sena. 

 

Umesh siraj tyagi prasidh umran. One of them need to learn to bat well. To a starc/Cummins or Lee level. 

 

We also need good batsmen ofocurse. 6 good batsmen. We don't need great batsmen. We need great bowlers which we have. We just need capable batsmen who put up decent scores and our bowling will take care of the rest. 

 

For odi tests I am looking at this as top 6 more or less long term

 

Paddikal/eeshwaran

Shaw. /  dhull 

Gill

Rahul. Tests and odi 

Sarfraz.  Tests only. 

Sundar (tests)  hardikaaa for odi 

 

 

I am completely in favour of improving the batting abity of the amazing bowlers we have.

 

That's the solution.

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1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Since the bowling core is very good, let's arrange this in terms of batting order.

 

6. Hardik

7.  Washington / Any other good spinner who can do his role with the ball and hit big too

8. Umran ... my addition.

9. Bumrah

10. Nattu

11. Prasidh

 

Good team, except that spin bowling is non-existent. Kuldeep Yadav on current form must be selected; more than Chahal. We need wicket-taking bowlers that can keep an opposition down to 150 or thereabouts. with Umran, Kuldeep, Prasidh, Nattu/Khaleel, and Bumrah/Shami, we have that attack. lastly, I don't fully trust bumrah anymore in LOIs especially in big games. still a gun player in Tests, but even there not so much in big games.

 

no need for batting from 7 onward.

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28 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

 

I am completely in favour of improving the batting abity of the amazing bowlers we have.

 

That's the solution.

Just don't understand this. I see starc, Cummins. 

I see Wagner averages 14 and trundler swinger soutthee. Both can bat and hang a bit. 

England have woakes, even *ing wood can slog. Or Ollie can hold the bat.

 

S Africa have Jansen. This one is the weakest out of sena but even rabada can tonk a bit. 

 

None of our premier bowlers can slog or tonk dor some reason. Why? 

 

Let's say our best attack which is easily the best in the world is;

Bumrah

Prasidh

Siraj/umran or shami

 

Problem is guys like wood and Ollie can extent batting till 9. 

Statc and Cummins too. And n.z etc. 

 

I am ok with one trundler swinger like thakur or chahar at 8. They can tonk and support. But number 9?

I only see tyyagi developing as a capable batsman. Maybe mavi due to his changed bowling can mould into a bowling all rounder. That's his best bet tbh. He wants to be a trundler it seems. Or perhaps we can look at hangerakar. 

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2 minutes ago, Jay said:

Just don't understand this. I see starc, Cummins. 

I see Wagner averages 14 and trundler swinger soutthee. Both can bat and hang a bit. 

England have woakes, even *ing wood can slog. Or Ollie can hold the bat.

 

S Africa have Jansen. This one is the weakest out of sena but even rabada can tonk a bit. 

 

None of our premier bowlers can slog or tonk dor some reason. Why? 

 

Let's say our best attack which is easily the best in the world is;

Bumrah

Prasidh

Siraj/umran or shami

 

Problem is guys like wood and Ollie can extent batting till 9. 

Statc and Cummins too. And n.z etc. 

 

I am ok with one trundler swinger like thakur or chahar at 8. They can tonk and support. But number 9?

I only see tyyagi developing as a capable batsman. Maybe mavi due to his changed bowling can mould into a bowling all rounder. That's his best bet tbh. He wants to be a trundler it seems. Or perhaps we can look at hangerakar. 

latest gen can all bat a bit. hangu, raj bawa, kartik tyagi. however, they are not players who would avg > 20 in tests or ODIs IMO

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1 minute ago, Vijy said:

latest gen can all bat a bit. hangu, raj bawa, kartik tyagi. however, they are not players who would avg > 20 in tests or ODIs IMO

Bhai, 15 is more than enough for number 9. 

Statc Cummins average around there. Wood and Ollie too. 

 

I just want 15-20 from number 9.

20 to 25 from number 8. 

 

Is that too much to ask for from our pompous rich assholes that play for India? 

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7 minutes ago, Vijy said:

latest gen can all bat a bit. hangu, raj bawa, kartik tyagi. however, they are not players who would avg > 20 in tests or ODIs IMO

I'm not sure about this, never heard if he has any batting ability. Even in the U-19 WC he was a legitimate tailender.

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8 minutes ago, Jay said:

Bhai, 15 is more than enough for number 9. 

Statc Cummins average around there. Wood and Ollie too. 

 

I just want 15-20 from number 9.

20 to 25 from number 8. 

 

Is that too much to ask for from our pompous rich assholes that play for India? 

At this moment, I would happily take an Umesh or even Zaheer level batting ability.
But they all are idolising Nehra ji in terms of batting.

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On 4/30/2022 at 11:51 AM, Jay said:

Bhai, 15 is more than enough for number 9. 

Statc Cummins average around there. Wood and Ollie too. 

 

I just want 15-20 from number 9.

20 to 25 from number 8. 

 

Is that too much to ask for from our pompous rich assholes that play for India? 

Yes, too much to ask.

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