theguyinallblue Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 The waiter who will be an IAS officer Inspired by the spider, the Scottish king Robert the Bruce told his men, 'If you don't succeed the first time, try, try and try again' K Jayaganesh's story is similar. He failed the civil service examination six times but never lost heart. The seventh time -- his last chance -- he passed with a rank of 156 and has been selected for the Indian Administrative Service. Jayaganesh's story is inspiring not because he did not lose heart but also because he comes from a very poor background in a village in Tamil Nadu, and though he studied to be an engineer, he worked at odd jobs, even as a waiter for a short while, to realise his dream of becoming an IAS officer. Read on for Jayaganesh's inspiring achievement in his own words: Childhood in a remote village: I was born and brought up in a small village called Vinavamangalam in Vellore district. My father Krishnan, who had studied up to the tenth standard, worked as a supervisor in a leather factory. My mother was a housewife. I am the eldest in the family and have two sisters and a brother. I studied up to the 8th standard in the village school and completed my schooling in a nearby town. I was quite good at studies and always stood first. Coming from a poor family, I had only one ambition in life -- to get a job as fast as I could and help my father in running the family. My father got Rs 4,500 as salary and he had to take care of the education of four children and run the family, which you know is very difficult. So, after my 10th standard, I joined a polytechnic college because I was told I would get a job the moment I passed out from there. When I passed out with 91 per cent, there was a chance for me to get entry to a government engineering college on merit. So I decided to join the Thanthai Periyar Government Engineering College to study mechanical engineering. My father supported my desire to study further. Even while doing engineering, my ambition was still to get a job. If you look at my background, you will understand why I didn't have any big ambitions. Most of my friends in the village had studied only up to the 10th standard, and many did not even complete school. They worked as auto drivers or coolies or masons. I was the only one among my friends who went to college. I understood the importance of education because of my parents. My father was the only one in his family to have completed school, so he knew the value of education. My parents saw to it that we children studied well. In search of a job Four days after I completed my engineering in 2000, I went to Bangalore in search of a job and I one without much difficulty. My salary was Rs 2,500 at a company that reconditioned tools. It was in Bangalore that I started thinking about my village and my friends. I wondered sadly why none of them studied and worked in good companies. Because they had no education, they always remained poor. There was not enough money to buy even proper food. There was no opportunity there; the only place they could work was the tannery in the nearby town. If they didn't get work at the tannery, they worked as auto drivers or coolies. In short, there was no one in my village to guide the young generation. I thought would I be able to help my villagers in any way? Getting interested in the civil service examination Till then, I had not even heard of something called the civil services examination. It was only after I went to Bangalore and saw the world that I was exposed to many things. I came to know that a collector in a small place could do a lot. At that moment, I decided that I wanted to be an IAS officer. I resigned and went home to prepare for the examination. I never thought resigning was risky because I had the confidence and knew I would do well. My father also supported me wholeheartedly. He had just got a bonus of Rs 6,500 and he gave me that money to buy study material. I sat in my village and studied from the notes I received by post from Chennai. Failed attempts In my first two attempts, I could not even clear the preliminary examination. I had no idea how to prepare for the exam, what subjects to opt for and how to study. There was nobody to guide me. I had taken mechanical engineering as my main subject. That's when I met Uma Surya in Vellore. He was also preparing for the examination. He told me that if I took sociology as an option, it would be easy. Even with sociology as the main subject, I failed in the third attempt. But I was not disappointed. I knew why I was failing. I didn't have proper guidance. I started reading newspapers only after I started preparing for the examination! So you can imagine from what kind of background I came from. To Chennai for coaching When I came to know about the government coaching centre (external link) in Chennai, I wrote the entrance examination and was selected. We were given accommodation and training. Because I got tips from those who passed out, I passed the preliminary in my fourth attempt. We were given free accommodation and food only till we wrote the main examination. After that, we had to move out. I didn't want to go back to the village but staying in Chennai also was expensive. I tried to get a job as an engineer but my efforts turned futile. I then decided to look for a part time job so that I would have time to study. Working as a waiter in Chennai I got a job as a billing clerk for computer billing in the canteen at Sathyam Cinemas. I also worked as the server during the interval. It never bothered me that I, a mechanical engineer, preparing for the civil services, had to work as a server. I had only one aim -- to stay on in Chennai to pass the examination. Attending the interview in Delhi After I got the job at the Sathyam Cinemas, I was called for the interview. As counselling was my hobby, a lot of questions were asked about counselling. I was not very fluent in English but I managed to convey whatever I wanted to. Perhaps I did not articulate well. I failed in the interview. Preliminary again, the 5th time Once again, I started from the beginning. Surprisingly, I failed in the preliminary itself. On analysis, I felt I did not concentrate on studies as I was working at Sathyam Cinemas. I quit the job and joined a private firm to teach sociology to those preparing for the UPSC examinations. While I learnt the other subjects there, I taught sociology. Many friends of mine in Chennai helped me both financially and otherwise while I prepared for the examination. Sixth attempt I passed both the preliminary and the main in the sixth attempt but failed at the interview stage. While preparing for the interview, I had written an examination to be an officer with the Intelligence Bureau and I was selected. I was in a dilemma whether to accept the job. I felt if I joined the IB, once again, my preparation to be an IAS officer would get affected. So, I decided not to join and started preparing for one last time. Last attempt I had to give the last preliminary just a few days after the previous interview. I was confused and scared. Finally, I decided to take the last chance and write the examination. Like I had hoped, I passed both the preliminary and the main. The interview was in April, 2008 at Delhi. I was asked about Tamil Nadu, Kamaraj, Periyar, Tamil as a classical language, the link between politics and Tamil cinema etc. I was upset since I did not wish the interviewers at the start and they did not respond when I said thanks at the end. Both the incidents went on playing in my mind. I just prayed to God and walked back. The day the results were out I was extremely tense that day. I would know whether my dreams would be realised or not. I used to tell God, please let me pass if you feel I am worthy of it. I went to a playground and sat there meditating for a while. Then, I started thinking what I should do if I passed and what I should do if I didn't. I had only one dream for the last seven years and that was to be an IAS officer. 156th rank Finally when the results came, I couldn't believe myself. I had secured the 156th rank out of more than 700 selected candidates. It's a top rank and I am sure to get into the IAS. I felt like I had a won a war that had been going on for many years. I felt free and relieved. The first thing I did was call my friends in Chennai and then my parents to convey the good news. Warm welcome in the village The reception I got in my village was unbelievable. All my friends, and the entire village, were waiting for me when I alighted from the bus. They garlanded me, burst crackers, played music and took me around the village on their shoulders. The entire village came to my house to wish me. That was when I saw unity among my villagers. It was a defining moment for me. What I want to do I worked really hard without losing faith in myself to realise my dream. My real work starts now. I want to try hard to eradicate poverty and spread the message of education to all people. Education is the best tool to eradicate poverty. I want Tamil Nadu also to be a literate state like Kerala [images]. Just take my example. I could come out of a poor background to this level only because of education. I didn't get any guidance when I was young. So I want to give proper guidance to the youth in the villages. They have the ability to go up but there is nobody to guide them. I want to be a guiding force to such youngsters. As I come from that background, I understand them best. Reservations I strongly feel that reservations are needed to uplift the section of society that is at the bottom. Unless you lift them up, they can't come up. As they had been at the bottom for thousands of years, they are not equipped to compete with the higher sections of society. Now that I am going to be an IAS officer, I will move to the creamy layer in reservations. My children would be from a background that is totally different from what mine was. If I continue taking the benefits of reservation, I would be doing injustice to society. So, I will not take the benefits again.
Lurker Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 Everything about this chap was inspiring apart from his comment on Reservation.
coffee_rules Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 "apart" from his comments? Something wrong in what he said?
Lurker Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 "apart" from his comments? Something wrong in what he said? Yep. Not a big fan of Reservation system personally. If I had my way I would do away with it completely.
observer1 Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 What does this mean? Now that I am going to be an IAS officer, I will move to the creamy layer in reservations. My children would be from a background that is totally different from what mine was. Do his children get reservation? Yes, or No?
Lurker Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 What does this mean? Now that I am going to be an IAS officer, I will move to the creamy layer in reservations. My children would be from a background that is totally different from what mine was. Do his children get reservation? Yes, or No? If he moves to creamy layer, and I have no reason not to beleive him, then no his childrens would not be able to use Reservations.
fineleg Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 I agree with Lurker. However one correction to what Lurker says. Help should be given for economically underprivileged, not based on caste. The latter type of reservation should be abolished. Lurker - do you share this view?
observer1 Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 Thanks Lurker, for the update. Is that a policy (no reservation for the 'creamy layer', presumably based on family income or parental education) that holds good for the entire country? Or does the definition of 'cream' vary state to state?
Lurker Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 I agree with Lurker. However one correction to what Lurker says. Help should be given for economically underprivileged, not based on caste. The latter type of reservation should be abolished. Lurker - do you share this view? If I had my way I would do away with reservations completely. I will whole heartedly support uplifting backward section of the society - economic or castewise, but I will put my support in form of books, little(or no) tuition fees, scholarship etc. In my college days, for example, a General candidate could keep 3 books from the library at one time. However the SC/STs could keep unlimited number of books from a seperate part of the library called Book Bank. Often this would mean a SC/ST did not buy a single book. I have no problem if that is done for poor strata as well. What I dont support is that the standards of exams etc are lowered to accomodate them. Again going back to my example, these lads had already received help by being admitted to a REC. Once in they paid minimal fee, used Book Banks etc. So why should an ONGC lower its standards to accomodate them once they are out of college? And who is to say these facilities are not to be used even after the people start working in ONGC, for promotions etc?
Lurker Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 Thanks Lurker, for the update. Is that a policy (no reservation for the 'creamy layer', presumably based on family income or parental education) that holds good for the entire country? Or does the definition of 'cream' vary state to state? In this particular case, UPSC being a National level exams, the creamy layer is standard. However the definition certainly varies from state to state. This is basically because what is backward in Bihar is often not so in Rajasthan. Also the degree of prosperity in Punjab is not same as in Assam so yes it does vary. Probably the worse part is that not too many people willingly move to creamy layer. Quite often they would end up using the system even when they should not. This is of course no different from many of the other Indians who choose to milk Indian system even at the detriment of the nation.
coffee_rules Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 I thought reservations was caste-based. Even well-to-do people (businessmen, govt officials etc) who belong to those castes, can avail reservations. Is that not true anymore?
fineleg Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 I thought reservations was caste-based. Even well-to-do people (businessmen' date=' govt officials etc) who belong to those castes, can avail reservations. Is that not true anymore?[/quote'] Sadly, thats still true.
observer1 Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 this is what i thought happened Sadly' date=' thats still true.[/quote'] At least, it was still happening in 1994, and I dont much afterwards. I am pretty sure economics dont matter if you are non-creamy enoug...
Desi Cartman Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 the thing to learn from his story is that even after struggling so much and failing so many times he still believed in himself. We all think that our lives are stressful and we have pressure at work or how to gather enough money to buy a house and then look at this guy .. he was fighting for his poor family , his father's hard work .. his own ambitions and dreams ... Im impressed as for reservation , the lower caste has been suppressed for centuries and something needs to be done about their education & living standards. I remember going to my family village in Himachal Pradesh for the first and the only time, the only thing I was told by some people living in the village was "these houses belong to lower caste people, dont drink any water if they offer and stay away from them". It was weird that while I was coming back from the farm I felt thirsty and my mum asked one of those "lower caste" people for water and I couldnt believe their reaction , they just werent surprised in fact they were in shock .. for few seconds everything was at a stand still .. they did get us water and of course they were very polite (like a normal human) but yes couple of uncles who were following us just stared at us and walked away. Whenever I think about what I saw in that village one question always comes to my mind "what if I was one of them"...Im glad my parents showed me the right path... my mom could have easily asked me to wait for another 5mins but probably she wanted me to learn something that day..:icflove: This happened around 15-17 years ago and I cant wait to visit the same village again and see if the reservation and free education has made any difference. PS: im not sure if reservation is a good thing or a bad thing .. One possible solution might be to create small ITI institues in small towns and have some reservations there but Im not convinced about reservations in RECs , IITs and top medical schools
The Outsider Posted May 27, 2008 Posted May 27, 2008 Don't think the creamy layer exclusion has been introduced yet - there were some talks regarding it. Don't follow politics as closely as I used to, so might have missed out on something latest but as far as I can make out the guy is talking from a personal choice....he won't let his children use reservation.
graphic23 Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 When Ambedkar suggested the idea of reservations, I think it was a temporary solution to get all the "backward" caste people on par with everyone else. Unfortunately, its being misused today. I agree with Lurker - instead of reservations, merit-based aid would help students more.
Gambit Posted May 28, 2008 Posted May 28, 2008 Haven't the max number of tries been reduced to 4 now? Anyhow, that was a very inspiring story and I liked what he said about reservation at the end. This bit - If I continue taking the benefits of reservation, I would be doing injustice to society. So, I will not take the benefits again.
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