gakgupta Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 18 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Nah,BD plays more to loose more But BDs pace attack is way more superior to Afghans They have hired a proper fast bowling coach in Donald,this is what finance can do It will help BD in the longer run,they too need to get rid of Shakib, Mushfiqur and other oldmen now I'm hugely impressed by their pace bowling stocks That Hasan guy has a great future... Fizzy is their weak link in their pace bowling attack... they should get over big names and give chances to young talent who have big ceiling Suhaan 1 Link to comment
Lord Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 20 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Nah,BD plays more to loose more But BDs pace attack is way more superior to Afghans They have hired a proper fast bowling coach in Donald,this is what finance can do It will help BD in the longer run,they too need to get rid of Shakib, Mushfiqur and other oldmen now I'm hugely impressed by their pace bowling stocks you mean the pace attack against which we chase 256 comfortably,Eng scored 364 and NZ chased 248 easily? Frustrated 1 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Lord said: you mean the pace attack against which we chase 256 comfortably,Eng scored 364 and NZ chased 248 easily? Even then their pace attack is better than Afghans By that logic Aussies too are rubbish, You see the potential They too tend to bank on big names rather than facing reality They have improved their fast bowling attack,which is true Eng,NZ are top dogs They have always troubled us,good that we thrashed them handsomely now Edited October 24, 2023 by Suhaan Link to comment
MediumPacer Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 16 minutes ago, Lord said: you mean the pace attack against which we chase 256 comfortably,Eng scored 364 and NZ chased 248 easily? That's due to indian conditions. Link to comment
Lord Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Suhaan said: Even though their pace attack is better than Afghans By that logic Aussies too are rubbish, You see the potential They too tend to bank on big names rather than facing reality They have improved their fast bowling attack,which is true Eng,NZ are top dogs They have always troubled us,good that we thrashed them handsomely now Afghans pace attack is no barometer. Aussies had us at 2/3, bowled SL out after great start. Bangladesh has done no such thing. They are mental midgets Link to comment
Lord Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Just now, MediumPacer said: That's due to indian conditions. India,SA attack has done well in same conditions Link to comment
Suhaan Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Lord said: Afghans pace attack is no barometer. Aussies had us at 2/3, bowled SL out after great start. Bangladesh has done no such thing. They are mental midgets BD as a unit is known to brainfade, can't blame their current pace attack Australia has struggled to pick wickets in PP after our game As you said they are mental midgets,they don't cash in against top sides Edited October 24, 2023 by Suhaan Lord 1 Link to comment
MediumPacer Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 23 minutes ago, Lord said: India,SA attack has done well in same conditions Ind has mostly used spin,siraj has struggled. Sa are the best pace attack in this wc and even they got smashed vs sl. And we will always have a few exception regardless of conditions. Link to comment
Frustrated Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) Regarding the Afghan vs Ban debate, I feel one thing that stands out is that Afghan team is more entertaining to watch compared to Ban. Even if Afghan loses all matches, I would probably put my money on watching Mujeeb and Rashid bowl or even watch Gurbaz bat rather than watching Ban who usually play their boring & dull brand of cricket. Edited October 24, 2023 by Frustrated Lord 1 Link to comment
Lord Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, MediumPacer said: Ind has mostly used spin,siraj has struggled. Sa are the best pace attack in this wc and even they got smashed vs sl. And we will always have a few exception regardless of conditions. All Indian pacers have done much better than BD pacers, including Siraj. Getting smacked in one game is okay, what BD pacers are yet to do anything worthwhile, why are they being hyped? Frustrated 1 Link to comment
MediumPacer Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, Lord said: All Indian pacers have done much better than BD pacers, including Siraj. Getting smacked in one game is okay, what BD pacers are yet to do anything worthwhile, why are they being hyped? Pace bowlers are not as effective in white ball cricket in indian conditions ,so results will not always show on the scrorecard like with batsmen. But compared to their standards they were looking better.Ban have not been known for pacers and also they always look defeatish unlike Afghans who look like they belong. Link to comment
Lord Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 minute ago, MediumPacer said: Pace bowlers are not as effective in white ball cricket in indian conditions ,so results will not always show on the scrorecard like with batsmen. But compared to their standards they were looking better.Ban have not been known for pacers and also they always look defeatish unlike Afghans who look like they belong. That's not true. Pacers are still more effective than spinners. Its pacers which have got us the wins.Top 4 of the 5 wicket takers this WC are pacers. Link to comment
MediumPacer Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Just now, Lord said: That's not true. Pacers are still more effective than spinners. Its pacers which have got us the wins.Top 4 of the 5 wicket takers this WC are pacers. I haven't checked all these stats,one has to check when they got those wickets. Spinners generally keep things tight in these conditions .Even in the last match afghanistan pacers took 3 wickets whereas their spinners took 4 ,but is that a fair reflection of how they bowled. Link to comment
Lord Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 10 hours ago, Lord said: Their rise has been fast. Bangladesh still hasn't reached the heights. another reminder of that. What meek surrender by Ban Another great performance by BD fast bowlers @MediumPacer @Suhaan Link to comment
Suhaan Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Lord said: another reminder of that. What meek surrender by Ban Another great performance by BD fast bowlers @MediumPacer @Suhaan Against whom?SA are in tremendous form? What is the point talking about this,the other day Mark Wood travelled,Starc travelled against SA I made a point they have better fast bowlers than Afghans ,I didn't say they have best fast bowling among participating teams here Lord 1 Link to comment
MediumPacer Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, Lord said: another reminder of that. What meek surrender by Ban Another great performance by BD fast bowlers @MediumPacer @Suhaan They had started well but fell away,also conditions are different and sa are good against pacers. Lord 1 Link to comment
Lord Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Against whom?SA are in tremendous form? What is the point talking about this,the other day Mark Wood travelled,Starc travelled against SA I made a point they have better fast bowlers than Afghans ,I didn't say they have best fast bowling among participating teams here Afghan is worst pace attack. Being better then them is not much. Link to comment
putrevus Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Those craving for Allan Donald to become bowling coach of India, what has he done to deserve the craving. Link to comment
Suhaan Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 10 hours ago, Lord said: Their rise has been fast. Bangladesh still hasn't reached the heights. Rise is a function of collective efforts,don't care about other things when I was talking about the potential of their new fast bowling prospects under Donald,they have certainly improved We were smashed by WI in Wankhede of all sides,albeit in T20 That attack had Bumrah,Nehra,Hardik,Ashwin Lord 1 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Lord said: Afghan is worst pace attack. Being better then them is not much. My response was to a post comparing Afghan as and BD Why are you making it BD fast bowlers vs Others in the world? Link to comment
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