Lone Wolf Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Markaram Captain... Lots of new faces in T20 team. Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: Markaram Captain... Lots of new faces in T20 team. No Temba I will miss his 33(30) type inns. Link to comment
AKane Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 40 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: No Temba I will miss his 33(30) type inns. Temba will be there for the tests - him and Rabada. "Captain Temba Bavuma and Kagiso Rabada are amongst a group of players that have been omitted for the white-ball leg of the tour in order to play red-ball cricket as emphasis is placed on the Test series for which both will return" Link to comment
AKane Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) South Africa focusing on tests. This will be their test side Dean Elgar Aiden Markram Temba Bavuma Keegan Petersen David Bedingham Tristan Stubbs Kyle Verryne (wk) Marco Jansen Keshav Maharaj Gerald Coetzee Kagiso Rabada Lot of batting here - they could bring in another bowler like Nandre Burger who is more bowler or Wiaan Mulder who is more batter but can bowl a few overs - or go with Ngidi. Watch out for Tristan Stubbs. Edited December 4, 2023 by AKane tweaker and express bowling 2 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 hour ago, AKane said: South Africa focusing on tests. This will be their test side Dean Elgar Aiden Markram Temba Bavuma Keegan Petersen David Bedingham Tristan Stubbs Kyle Verryne (wk) Marco Jansen Keshav Maharaj Gerald Coetzee Kagiso Rabada Lot of batting here - they could bring in another bowler like Nandre Burger who is more bowler or Wiaan Mulder who is more batter but can bowl a few overs - or go with Ngidi. Watch out for Tristan Stubbs. Stubbs won't play 1st game... Reckon Wiaan Mulder will get a shot in 1st test. Going with only 4 bowlers with a rookie in Coetzee (who I think could be most dangerous for Indians) They'd need someone like Mulder Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 hour ago, AKane said: South Africa focusing on tests. This will be their test side Dean Elgar Aiden Markram Temba Bavuma Keegan Petersen David Bedingham Tristan Stubbs Kyle Verryne (wk) Marco Jansen Keshav Maharaj Gerald Coetzee Kagiso Rabada Lot of batting here - they could bring in another bowler like Nandre Burger who is more bowler or Wiaan Mulder who is more batter but can bowl a few overs - or go with Ngidi. Watch out for Tristan Stubbs. Tony de zorzi played vs WI so could be there as well. Bedingham is a domestic performer... Likely debut (in ODI side too) RvD dropped looks like Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 T20 2-1 India ODI 2-1 SA Tests 1-1... Maybe India will win in Newlands... Huge ask without Pant. @neel roy what do you think Link to comment
rageaddict Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Bavuma not playing in White Ball Matches, that's a massive disadvantage to India. He's playing in Tests where he usually performs well done the lower order like he did in the last series against India 2021. Should have been a 3 Match Test series. Anyway would be an exciting series in South African conditions in front of their crowds. AKane 1 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 Just now, rageaddict said: Bavuma not playing in White Ball Matches, that's a massive disadvantage to India. He's playing in Tests where he usually performs well done the lower order like he did in the last series against India 2021. Should have been a 3 Match Test series. Anyway would be an exciting series in South African conditions in front of their crowds. African crowd is rowdy... That Covid series really was a shame. Atmosphere in Joburg & Capetown & boxing day test in Centurion would be tasty. Even LOIs in main cities like Durban would be electric. Bull ring is always buzzing. Link to comment
AKane Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Stubbs won't play 1st game... Reckon Wiaan Mulder will get a shot in 1st test. Going with only 4 bowlers with a rookie in Coetzee (who I think could be most dangerous for Indians) They'd need someone like Mulder Hmmm.... In that case they will go with Ngidi...... Stubbs is a batsman, Ngidi a bowler. Wiaan is not good enough for tests in either. Like a Stoinis.... Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 Toss will be critical in Centurion than in Newlands.... Pitch really quickens up as Sun beats down on it. Day 1 batting is easiest. Kela & Mayank won us that test on day 1. SA have lost only 2 games there... Vs Aus in 2014.. Johnson show & India in 2021.. Kela Shami Mayank the heroes Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, AKane said: Hmmm.... In that case they will go with Ngidi...... Stubbs is a batsman, Ngidi a bowler. Wiaan is not good enough for tests in either. Like a Stoinis.... Mulder played last time as well in 1st game.. Playing Ngidi will shorten the batting. Would be a 50-50 call. Thank god we have a fit Jaddu this time. Only format where he is useful. Link to comment
harpicP Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: Mulder played last time as well in 1st game.. Playing Ngidi will shorten the batting. Would be a 50-50 call. Thank god we have a fit Jaddu this time. Only format where he is useful. Is jadeja useful? He has never scored in s.a and England has he? Don't recall Link to comment
test fan Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 South Africa bowling attack for first test . Rababa Jansen Ngidi Coetzee Maharaj cricketfan28 1 Link to comment
harpicP Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 2 hours ago, test fan said: South Africa bowling attack for first test . Rababa Jansen Ngidi Coetzee Maharaj We won't survive vs rabada. Jansen can be good. Coetzee can kill tail. Kohli can't play mahraj. Rohit caught keeper b rabada Link to comment
neel roy Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 17 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: T20 2-1 India ODI 2-1 SA Tests 1-1... Maybe India will win in Newlands... Huge ask without Pant. @neel roy what do you think I agree with the white ball series score test i am a bit unsure. There are no draws in saf. We might even win 2-0. Or lose 2-0. KL rahul has to play at no 5 instead of iyer. Also most importantly we have to win the toss.. last time inspite of winning all tosses we lost 2-1. Lone Wolf 1 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 2 hours ago, neel roy said: I agree with the white ball series score test i am a bit unsure. There are no draws in saf. We might even win 2-0. Or lose 2-0. KL rahul has to play at no 5 instead of iyer. Also most importantly we have to win the toss.. last time inspite of winning all tosses we lost 2-1. Toss will matter only in Centurion... Batting last there when Pitch quickens up & with indentations is a nightmare. Safe to say the side which wins the toss has a huge advantage. Newlands is more even for both sides. India has never won there & last 2 times we were unable to defend & in 2018 unable to chase. Pant's ATG knock in 2022 still hurts.. He had no support.. That knock was better in quality than even Gabba. One of the best you will ever see. Such a shame it wasn't in a winning cause. Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 12 hours ago, harpicP said: We won't survive vs rabada. Jansen can be good. Coetzee can kill tail. Kohli can't play mahraj. Rohit caught keeper b rabada Coetzee has just Y'day married at 23 lol... Hopefully he under performs Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 Pakistan has 2 test wins in SA... Durban & Port Elizabeth India has 4 Durban, Joburg (2006+2018), Centurion SL has 3 Durban (2012 + 2018) PE 2018 Only India has test wins in Highveld among Asian teams Joburg + Centurion. So at least in Aus & SA we have edge over Poyzz Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 2 hours ago, neel roy said: I agree with the white ball series score test i am a bit unsure. There are no draws in saf. We might even win 2-0. Or lose 2-0. KL rahul has to play at no 5 instead of iyer. Also most importantly we have to win the toss.. last time inspite of winning all tosses we lost 2-1. Also Saffers will pull every dirty trick to win... Their broadcasters are notorious. That dubious Mayank LBW call in Centurion (didn't cost us) but was a pre cursor to what happened in Newlands. Umpiring will be dodgy & Crowd will be rowdy. It's hard to win there. After Shock loss vs SL they hosted them in highveld next year & won 3-0.. Dravid botched us last time... Hopefully he has learnt some lessons. Link to comment
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