Disgraceful stuff from england. no sportsman ship

[zubinpepsi]

MailkBrother, r u seriously an idiot ..?? or ur jus arguing for the sake of it.. if u can read english properly.. u wud undst here no one here saying akthar is at fault or ICC gave sachin out wrongly.... if at the end ICC matters, then don cry foul abt collingwoods decision today..

[putrevus]

MailkBrother, r u seriously an idiot ..?? or ur jus arguing for the sake of it.. if u can read english properly.. u wud undst here no one here saying akthar is at fault or ICC gave sachin out wrongly.... if at the end ICC matters, then don cry foul abt collingwoods decision today..

But what I dont understand why nobody raised the spirit of game issue, I remember sachin going round eden gardens calming the crowd but like today there was no hue and cry about spirit of the game discussion then if there was i dont remember it .

[satishg]

But what I dont understand why nobody raised the spirit of game issue' date=' I remember sachin going round eden gardens calming the crowd but like today there was no hue and cry about spirit of the game discussion then if there was i dont remember it .[/quote'] dude wat do u expect..v were playing against pakistan..and pakis jus want Sachin out of the way in watever way possible..so y do u think they wud play in the spirit of the game..they are the same bunch of clowns who had claimed that bump catch against Sourav in the 99 chennai test match..wen the whole world cud see that the ball bounced before moin took the catch..they how do u accept anyone here to raise "The Spirit of the game" against Pakis man..its an India Pak match and there is no spirit there..win at all cost is how they play..for that matter Dravid and the Indian team appealing against Inzi blocking the ball wen Raina had a aim at the stumps is also against the spirit of the game..comeon the fatso wasnt trying to guard his wicket or didnt try to think taht the ball was coming towards the stumps..he jus thot it was gonna hit him and he blocked it..but our team appealed..so thats that for the spirit of the game in India Vs Pakistan..

[Desi Cartman]

Malikbrother , so as per your theory SRT was more interested in crashing with Akthar than saving his wicket :omg:.. if thats ur argument then Main kya keh sakta hoon

[Desi Cartman]

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[MalikBrother]

Malikbrother ' date=' so as per your theory SRT was more interested in crashing with Akthar than saving his wicket :omg:.. if thats ur argument then Main kya keh sakta hoon[/quote']

MailkBrother, r u seriously an idiot ..?? or ur jus arguing for the sake of it.. if u can read english properly.. u wud undst here no one here saying akthar is at fault or ICC gave sachin out wrongly.... if at the end ICC matters, then don cry foul abt collingwoods decision today..

Sadly, not many people aware of ICC rules. Feel sorry for y'all :hysterical:

[MalikBrother]

dude wat do u expect..v were playing against pakistan..and pakis jus want Sachin out of the way in watever way possible..so y do u think they wud play in the spirit of the game..they are the same bunch of clowns who had claimed that bump catch against Sourav in the 99 chennai test match..wen the whole world cud see that the ball bounced before moin took the catch..they how do u accept anyone here to raise "The Spirit of the game" against Pakis man..its an India Pak match and there is no spirit there..win at all cost is how they play..for that matter Dravid and the Indian team appealing against Inzi blocking the ball wen Raina had a aim at the stumps is also against the spirit of the game..comeon the fatso wasnt trying to guard his wicket or didnt try to think taht the ball was coming towards the stumps..he jus thot it was gonna hit him and he blocked it..but our team appealed..so thats that for the spirit of the game in India Vs Pakistan..

First of all, Pakistan bowlers like Wasim, Akhtar and Waqar have dominated Sachin more than Sachin did once in a 50 matches against Pakistan in the past :haha:. Pakistan doesn't need to do hook or crook like Australia does. If you look at history, then you will understand the whole movie...Sachin is nothing in front of them... Sachin has performanced once of 100 matches against Wasim....Mostly, It's Wasim who has dominated him...if not run out, then definitely would have bowled him out..... If Razzaq can clean bowled him, then it's not special for Wasim. :--D

[MalikBrother]

You guys have short memory ... Don't forget Gavaskar was given plumb lbw out, but he cried like baby and made a mockery of himself...It's Imran who has called Gavaskar back and asked him to bat again....It's India who need to stop cry like baby rather than questioning Pakistan spirit of cricket :haha:

[IndianRenegade]

There was no way Sachin could have been given not out, according to the ICC rules. It wasn't deliberate from Actor. The only way sachin could have been not out was if Pakistan didn't appeal and which they didn't...

[The Outsider]

Here is Prem Panicker's (one of objective and neutral voices around) piece on it. For those who don't remember it's worth remembering that Tendulkar's bat actually popped out of the crease after the collision. Have had too many discussions on the topic over the years so it's likely to be my only post on the subject,

Back to the controversy of yesterday, meanwhile. It took a few phone calls to track down the dramatis personae -- none of whom, for obvious reasons, can talk, at least on record. But from what I managed to piece together what transpired out there. When the appeal was made and it was referred to the third umpire, Dravid and Tendulkar met in mid-pitch, and Tendulkar smilingly told Dravid not to worry, as he had grounded his bat behind the line well ahead of deadline. The red light shocked Tendulkar to the core, as was in any event apparent in the way he dragged himself off the ground. Immediately on reaching the pavilion, Tendulkar headed for the match referee's cubicle and, within a toucher of tears, pointed out the relevant section of the rule book. It reads: Either batsman shall be out run out if in running or at any time while the ball is in play -- except in the circumstances described in Law 39. (Stumped) -- he is out of his ground and his wicket is put down by the opposite side. If, however, a batsman in running makes good his ground he shall not be out Run Out, if he subsequently leaves his ground, in order to avoid injury, and the wicket is put down. Tendulkar's argument -- a well taken one -- was that when he grounded his bat at the bowler's end, as he clearly had done, he had completed his run. The lifting of the bat subsequently was due to the collision, which comes under the 'in order to avoid injury' clause. And that, therefore, he could not have been given out, under the laws. He insisted that the match referee take another look at the replay, which was why the incident was shown two, three times while Azhar was at the crease. Cammie Smith, the match referee, rubbed salt in the wounds by consolingly informing the Indian batsman that he had a point, but that in any case, nothing could now be done about it as the next batsman had already addressed a few deliveries. Tendulkar then went back to the dressing room in tears -- and was less than enthused when, immediately thereafter, the officials, with Dalmiya for company, asked him to take a walk around the stadium and cool things down. That lack of enthusiasm in any case showed in the way he performed that duty, walking the perimeter with his head down, occasionally coming up with a half-hearted wave. In any event, the game has ended -- and with that, Calcutta's agony.

http://www.rediff.com/sports/1999/feb/20a.htm

[IndianRenegade]

I think Sidebottom did on purpose. Pietersen was there to get the ball' date=' but sadly Sidebottom pushed really hard to Elliot. It was pretty clear. Why do you think Elliot sounded hurt? I loved the dressing rooms scenes :--D[/quote'] Nonsense! now tell which ICC rule book says, that if some other fielder is going for the ball you shouldn't go for the ball? Moreover, pierterson would have reached the ball much latter than Sidebottom. It was a clear accident. Trying to make it look intentional just to justify the sachin run out will not help.

[Guest Hiten.]

Thanks Shwetabh!

Either batsman shall be out run out if in running or at any time while the ball is in play -- except in the circumstances described in Law 39. (Stumped) -- he is out of his ground and his wicket is put down by the opposite side. If, however, a batsman in running makes good his ground he shall not be out Run Out, if he subsequently leaves his ground, in order to avoid injury, and the wicket is put down. Tendulkar's argument -- a well taken one -- was that when he grounded his bat at the bowler's end, as he clearly had done, he had completed his run. The lifting of the bat subsequently was due to the collision, which comes under the 'in order to avoid injury' clause. And that, therefore, he could not have been given out, under the laws. He insisted that the match referee take another look at the replay, which was why the incident was shown two, three times while Azhar was at the crease.

Both the situation and ICC rules (which Malik is moaning about) is clearly addressed. Malik do you now agree with what we're saying ? or rediff printed illegitimate ICC rule ?

[satishg]

First of all' date=' Pakistan bowlers like Wasim, Akhtar and Waqar have dominated Sachin more than Sachin did once in a 50 matches against Pakistan in the past :haha:. Pakistan doesn't need to do hook or crook like Australia does. If you look at history, then you will understand the whole movie...Sachin is nothing in front of them... Sachin has performanced once of 100 matches against Wasim....Mostly, It's Wasim who has dominated him...if not run out, then definitely would have bowled him out..... If Razzaq can clean bowled him, then it's not special for Wasim. :--D[/quote'] dont even get me started on this..man if ur only aim is to start some stupid argument abt watever ppl post here then u can refrain frm posting..pls read Wasims biography abt Sachin before u even post these kind of ridiculous comments..no disregards for Wasim here..he is the greatest left arm fast bowler ever but then he dominated Sachin :hysterical::finger: both of them are greats and both of them have had even battles over the years..agreed tat Sachin did get out to Razzaq a few times so does that mean Razzaq is a gr8 bowler than Wasim or does that lower Sachin genius by any means..dude u are seriously funny have to give it to u..keep up ur postings u wud soon be the clown of ICF :giggle:

[IndianRenegade]

Thanks Shwetabh! Both the situation and ICC rules (which Malik is moaning about) is clearly addressed. Malik do you now agree with what we're saying ? or rediff printed illegitimate ICC rule ?

Here is the rule:

2. Batsman not Run out Notwithstanding 1 above, a batsman is not out Run out if (a) he has been within his ground and has subsequently LEFT IT TO AVOID INJURY, when the wicket is put down. http://www.lords.org/laws-and-spirit/laws-of-cricket/laws/law-38-run-out,64,AR.html

So tendulkar wasn't out! I retract my previous statement... abt saying that there is nothing in the rule book that could have saved Tendulkar....

[NeoCon]

First of all' date=' Pakistan bowlers like Wasim, Akhtar and Waqar have dominated Sachin more than Sachin did once in a 50 matches against Pakistan in the past :haha:. Pakistan doesn't need to do hook or crook like Australia does. If you look at history, then you will understand the whole movie...Sachin is nothing in front of them... Sachin has performanced once of 100 matches against Wasim....Mostly, It's Wasim who has dominated him...if not run out, then definitely would have bowled him out..... If Razzaq can clean bowled him, then it's not special for Wasim. :--D[/quote'] Downs Syndrome at its best. Most of your points are weak and you mix in more junk that adds to your pathetic and pitiful arguments. You're like a dog chasing its tail in a circle, in the hopes of doing anything and everything you can to defend the Cricket team of Pakistan. If you couldn't understand all those other intellectual replies to your senseless ranting, then you're hopeless. No matter how much you scream and cry about it, the truth will never alter, you're a complete retard that's too disillusioned to realize he's wrong.

[Desi Cartman]

Malik should also be informed about the laws on pitch tampering (Afridi) & Ball Tampering (Ws , Inzi etc etc ) :finger:

[DomainK]

Collingwood's aplogy looks very conveniently timed to me. He knew all along that he was wrong. He went ahead with the decision when it mattered and became apologetic once the match is over.

[DomainK]

Malik should also be informed about the laws on pitch tampering (Afridi) & Ball Tampering (Ws ' date=' Inzi etc etc ) :finger:[/quote'] If you start informing Malik about these things, he will spend a lifetim in this education.:D

[Chaos]

Downs Syndrome at its best. Most of your points are weak and you mix in more junk that adds to your pathetic and pitiful arguments. You're like a dog chasing its tail in a circle' date=' in the hopes of doing anything and everything you can to defend the Cricket team of Pakistan. If you couldn't understand all those other intellectual replies to your senseless ranting, then you're hopeless. No matter how much you scream and cry about it, the truth will never alter, you're a complete retard that's too disillusioned to realize he's wrong.[/quote'] OUCH! that should heart them in the HEART. Great post, targeted right in to thehearts!

[alicricket]

Colly may in trouble more than that - could get a ban for slow over rate and the poor form he is in with the bat, could lose his Test sport if his replacement impresses