Terror attack in Pahalgam 27 civilians killed

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3 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

India mogs Paxtan when it comes to missile tech & warfare.

Our LRAShM's anti ship missiles have hypersonic capabilities while Agni 5 and Angni P have MIRV capability.

 

Our shorter range Nirbhay and especially Pralay should be mass produced.  Pralay is cheaper carries more payload than Brahmos and is subsonic.

 

We can flatten out Pakistani border areas in an instant.

Maybe one of the reasons IAF lags behind is because we are so ahead in missile capability.

 

 

 

 

This also answers your artillary question. India has chosen Brahmos and Brahmos Mk2 across the three services  serve as a cheap artillary missile.

 

 

[Lone Wolf]

11 minutes ago, G_B_ said:

 

 

This also answers your artillary question. India has chosen Brahmos and Brahmos Mk2 across the three services  serve as a cheap artillary missile.

 

 

Nope Brahmos doesn't acts as MLRS .. per unit costs are 2million I think.  

Pralay is actually our response to Fatah 2.  It costs 1/3rd the price of Brahmos with bigger range and Payload..

Thing with Missile warfare is it takes escalation ladder several notches above too.

 

Chinese has even more advanced missile capability but their Rocket forces are second to none.

We need to go into similar direction.

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6 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Nope Brahmos doesn't acts as MLRS .. per unit costs are 2million I think.  

Pralay is actually our response to Fatah 2.  It costs 1/3rd the price of Brahmos with bigger range and Payload..

Thing with Missile warfare is it takes escalation ladder several notches above too.

 

Chinese has even more advanced missile capability but their Rocket forces are second to none.

We need to go into similar direction.

 

again, you are getting bogged down by classification. Geography dictates that all pak population centres are within 200km of the border.

 

Pralay, what is the speed? 

[Lone Wolf]

38 minutes ago, G_B_ said:

 

again, you are getting bogged down by classification. Geography dictates that all pak population centres are within 200km of the border.

 

Pralay, what is the speed? 

It is India's first Subsonic cruise missile.. like American Tomahawks that were employed successfully in Afghan war.  Muricans still love their Tomahawks 

500km+ range and higher payload capability than Brahmos.  Can be used tactically when needed without threatening nuclear threshold 

 

 

Brahmos are silver bullets too costly to be used on mass scale.  

https://idrw.org/more-firepower-indian-army-to-order-more-pralay-tactical-missiles/#:~:text=The Pralay missile%2C developed by,of up to 800 kilograms.

Edited May 4, 2025 by Lone Wolf

[jf1gp_1]

3 hours ago, Vicks57 said:

 

JSW owns 50-60 percent of MG cars in India.

didnt know that but engg has to be chinese

[jf1gp_1]

4 hours ago, Gollum said:

Barking dogs seldom bite

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Meanwhile Pakistan has solidified its ties with another major superpower 

 

Pakistan, Somalia reaffirm commitment to strengthen multilateral ties

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49 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

It is India's first Subsonic cruise missile.. like American Tomahawks that were employed successfully in Afghan war.  Muricans still love their Tomahawks 

500km+ range and higher payload capability than Brahmos.  Can be used tactically when needed without threatening nuclear threshold 

 

 

Brahmos are silver bullets too costly to be used on mass scale.  

https://idrw.org/more-firepower-indian-army-to-order-more-pralay-tactical-missiles/#:~:text=The Pralay missile%2C developed by,of up to 800 kilograms.

 

Brahmos has a much bigger impact radius. Will be used to take out airfields etc. Dont just look at cost. A brhamos lands and achieves its objectives > 1000+ artillery shells. 

[Lone Wolf]

38 minutes ago, G_B_ said:

 

Brahmos has a much bigger impact radius. Will be used to take out airfields etc. Dont just look at cost. A brhamos lands and achieves its objectives > 1000+ artillery shells. 

Brahmos carries roughly 300kg max warhead whereas Pralay carries around 800kg max Payload at longer distances.

 

There is a reason Indian army has requested more of them for mass production.  Has lower trajectory and extremely difficult to intercept.

 

Cost always matters.   That's why Rocket artillery is preferred more 

Also I was wrong Brahmos is hella expensive (5-9 million $ per unit) that's why Pralay and Nirbhay were developed... Coz there were serious question marks whether Brahmos can be deployed when it comes to Mass firing requirement.

Pralay was first seen this year's republic day Parade with a twin launcher and a 12×12 high mobility vehicle.

 

https://idrw.org/indias-over-reliance-on-brahmos-the-challenge-of-finding-affordable-indigenous-alternatives/

 

[Chaos]

9 hours ago, Vicks57 said:

 

Didn't even know Turkey is a popular destination among Indian tourists.

 

Heard Pakistanis go to Turkey to become beggars.

Begging is in their dna. They think its their right, its disturbing and they r ok with it. Brokistan 

[Chaos]

39 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Brahmos carries roughly 300kg max warhead whereas Pralay carries around 800kg max Payload at longer distances.

 

There is a reason Indian army has requested more of them for mass production.  Has lower trajectory and extremely difficult to intercept.

 

Cost always matters.   That's why Rocket artillery is preferred more 

Also I was wrong Brahmos is hella expensive (5-9 million $ per unit) that's why Pralay and Nirbhay were developed... Coz there were serious question marks whether Brahmos can be deployed when it comes to Mass firing requirement.

Pralay was first seen this year's republic day Parade with a twin launcher and a 12×12 high mobility vehicle.

 

https://idrw.org/indias-over-reliance-on-brahmos-the-challenge-of-finding-affordable-indigenous-alternatives/

 

Brahmos price tag went down quite a bit since its in mass production in the country now. I wouldnt mind unleashing every single brahmos on brokistan (but people say im a crude cuz there will loss of life). What about life of people who went just for vacation?. People forget loss of life for greater good is worth it. No one in their own country should be afraid to visit places for vacation. Its scary thought, if it was usa, they would have wiped brokistan off the map by now. 

[jf1gp_1]

Unbelievable 

 

 

 

Edited May 4, 2025 by jf1gp_1

[Chaos]

2 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said:

Unbelievable 

 

 

 

modi will say, we will hunt this loduu all the way to mars next. 

Edited May 4, 2025 by Chaos

[Chaos]

3 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said:

Unbelievable 

 

 

 

And youtube didnt delete this?

[Lone Wolf]

12 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Brahmos price tag went down quite a bit since its in mass production in the country now. I wouldnt mind unleashing every single brahmos on brokistan (but people say im a crude cuz there will loss of life). What about life of people who went just for vacation?. People forget loss of life for greater good is worth it. No one in their own country should be afraid to visit places for vacation. Its scary thought, if it was usa, they would have wiped brokistan off the map by now. 

Price tag is pretty high still... Depends upon whether it is land sea, air or submarine launched.

In one billion dollars we can have 1000-1300 Pralay missiles for example.

 

[Chaos]

2 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Price tag is pretty high still... Depends upon whether it is land sea, air or submarine launched.

In one billion dollars we can have 1000-1300 Pralay missiles for example.

 

i think brahmos price is bit too high there. Also, russia n india working on new one i heard

Edited May 4, 2025 by Chaos

[Lone Wolf]

12 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said:

Unbelievable 

 

 

 

On Social media Pakistanis were calling for Sonam Bajwa as Maaal e ghanimat.. with Indian going for Hania Aamir 

[Lone Wolf]

3 minutes ago, Chaos said:

i think brahmos price is bit too high there. Also, russia n india working on new one i heard

Similar price tags on Indian defence forums.

The latest and most advanced BrahMos cruise missile, including the extended-range variant, is priced at approximately Rs 34 crore (around $4.85 million) per unit. This is a significant increase from earlier estimates of $3.2 million to $3.5 million for the standard BrahMos missiles. 

 

Source: Buisness standard

Edited May 4, 2025 by Lone Wolf

[Chaos]

5 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Price tag is pretty high still... Depends upon whether it is land sea, air or submarine launched.

In one billion dollars we can have 1000-1300 Pralay missiles for example.

 

also brahmos can be launced in all modes.

[Lone Wolf]

1 minute ago, Chaos said:

also brahmos can be launced in all modes.

Yes that's why it's a silver bullet.  Land based rocket artillery should be cheaper and mass produced for barrages.

Hence Pralay was introduced.