ACC Men's Asia Cup Rising stars | 14th Nov - 23rd Nov | Discussion

[Suhaan]

26 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

T20s are supposed to be played on pattas. 

Yes,but ME has mostly sticky surfaces,too early to judge him

[Suhaan]

21 minutes ago, Tillu said:

 

Abhishek is not a hack. He has great offside game. Priyansh looks to muscle the ball from awkward positions through legside which makes him a hack.

 

He is still pretty young. Hope he too gets a training session with Yuvaraj who can correct his batswing and mistakes.

Muscle is needed to hit from the crease,he's raw doesn't know how to minute changes on different types of surfaces 

We need muscle power too in our setup

[Need4Speed]

Well this side doesnt a well rounded batting side and even in bowling too..

 

in any case this is an opportunity to provide them exposure..even though wicket isnt ideal from T20 perspective..

 

There is some possibility though if we reach finals and play against Pak again we may defeat them due to some individual brilliances..as only individual brilliances may give them winning chances..our side doesnt look well rounded/covered..atleast by the way they played..

[Lone Wolf]

Bowling was also shocking.  Yash Thakur is beyond mediocre.. folks like Prince Yadav should have been preferred who can bowl fast yorkers.

 

Gurjapneet should be behind Gurnoor in Pecking order but CSK quotas are always first priority.  Gurjapneet is as floaty as they come.

 

Suyash was okay.. not a lot of runs to play with and with rubbish bowling by Pacers.

 

 

Ubaid looked sharp (surprisingly)b& has talent.. that Aziz Guy has tape ball skills but little  raw Talent.

 

Maaz Sadakat is a good prospect for them.. better option than Ayub with no power.

[Lone Wolf]

44 minutes ago, Need4Speed said:

There is some possibility though if we reach finals and play against Pak again we may defeat them due to some individual brilliances..as only individual brilliances may give them winning chances..our side doesnt look well rounded/covered..

Agreed... Pakistan has selected a well rounded squad for these slowish conditions unlike us.  We didn't expect this at all.

 

We are also stretched thin with so much cricket happening home with Ranjit Trophy, India A vs SA A list A games,  test series, U19 tri series.

 

Coaching staff looks dehati on a paid vacation..  this is inept BCCI for you.

 

Gurnoor should have been there over both Gurjapneet or Yash Thakur.

[iroman]

4 hours ago, tapandrun said:

Yes they have made it sound v.difficult to understand. 

 

Found this on yt

 

Great explanation in the video.  Clearly India got robbed here, cuz the 3rd umpire didn't understand the rules.

[Lone Wolf]

7 hours ago, iroman said:

Great explanation in the video.  Clearly India got robbed here, cuz the 3rd umpire didn't understand the rules.

Wouldn't have made a difference they needed 44 off friggin 11 overs at that moment.

 

Match would have finished in 15th over instead of 13th

[tapandrun]

10 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Agreed... Pakistan has selected a well rounded squad for these slowish conditions unlike us.  We didn't expect this at all.

 

We are also stretched thin with so much cricket happening home with Ranjit Trophy, India A vs SA A list A games,  test series, U19 tri series.

 

Coaching staff looks dehati on a paid vacation..  this is inept BCCI for you.

 

Gurnoor should have been there over both Gurjapneet or Yash Thakur.

Ind has a v.decent side for the level of the compitition.

 

Pak batters all 4-5 are openers -- Naeem,maaz, yasir,faiq all top 4 are opners.

 

The wk Gori has only 1 six in his t20 career.

 

Pak bowlers bowled a good line and length had some lively pace to keep batters guessing interms of pace and bounce.

 

Ind bowler did nothing, Ind spinners' ball was not gripping as much.

 

In batting apart from Dhir every1 had issue.

 

And once Dhir and Vaibhav got out, Nehal and Jitesh got stuck not able to hit 4/6 and build pressure on them selves.

 

Nehal does not have off-side game and v.limited leg-side game as well. He can be easily contained. He played in similar fashion in last emerging asia cup too.

 

[tapandrun]

When we say some1 is a hack, what does it mean ?? What does it mean for a t20 batter ??

 

Any1 who has developed off-side game and legside game is not a hack. Any1 able to play spin and pace is not a hack.

PPl would be calling Head a hack. If you need to play at v.high rate you will be required to try to hit every ball. There is no pick and chose.

In such cases batter will miss some miss-hit some and connect some. With Aus and WI (of past) batters they have advantage of having good power game, their mishits goes for boundaries.

 

If Abhishek would not have produced the same kind of results ppl would have been calling him hack too. Some1 who plays away from body and throws the bat around.

As ppl suggested hitting from crease is a req, in modern day t20 cricket. Need to have developed power game, which takes time to achieve.

 

 

 

 

[Lord]

11 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Bowling was also shocking.  Yash Thakur is beyond mediocre.. folks like Prince Yadav should have been preferred who can bowl fast yorkers.

 

Gurjapneet should be behind Gurnoor in Pecking order but CSK quotas are always first priority.  Gurjapneet is as floaty as they come.

 

Suyash was okay.. not a lot of runs to play with and with rubbish bowling by Pacers.

 

 

Ubaid looked sharp (surprisingly)b& has talent.. that Aziz Guy has tape ball skills but little  raw Talent.

 

Maaz Sadakat is a good prospect for them.. better option than Ayub with no power.

 

Both Gurjapneet and Yash Thakur can't even get in IPL sides. How are they representing India?

 

Is our pace bowling cupboard so bare?

 

 

[tapandrun]

6 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

Both Gurjapneet and Yash Thakur can't even get in IPL sides. How are they representing India?

 

Is our pace bowling cupboard so bare?

 

 

yes there is no one after siraj and bhumrah. 

 

they wasted last 4-5 years on -- mukesh/ avesh/ unadkat, tushar, saini etc...

[Lord]

2 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

yes there is no one after siraj and bhumrah. 

 

they wasted last 4-5 years on -- mukesh/ avesh/ unadkat, tushar, saini etc...

 

FWIW I'd still prefer guys like Harshit, Kamboj, Simarjeet ahead of these guys. Spinners need to be guys like Sai Kishore and Digvesh

[tapandrun]

3 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

FWIW I'd still prefer guys like Harshit, Kamboj, Simarjeet ahead of these guys. Spinners need to be guys like Sai Kishore and Digvesh

Yes in fast bowling the TM is thinking in right direction.

 

Do not mind Yash thakur too, he is tall and can bowl fast. Have seen him in red-ball targets stumps. May be t20 is not his best format. But this Emerging Asia cup is low end of a tournament, Ind FC bowlers should be able to perform there , he has IPL exp. too.

 

 

 

 

 

[Lord]

2 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

Yes in fast bowling the TM is thinking in right direction.

 

Do not mind Yash thakur too, he is tall and can bowl fast. Have seen him in red-ball targets stumps. May be t20 is not his best format. But this Emerging Asia cup is low end of a tournament, Ind FC bowlers should be able to perform there , he has IPL exp. too.

 

 

 

 

 

Need format specific bowlers. Those who did well in IPL should be preferred for T20 tourneys

[tapandrun]

16 minutes ago, Lord said:

Need format specific bowlers. Those who did well in IPL should be preferred for T20 tourneys

So the thing with such event and Ind team selection.

They send 1-2 players who they think can transition to Ind side and rest they send any1 and every1, just that those any1 and every1 can not over shadow the player they wanted to select.

 

It like confidence building measure.

 

Ex:::: Last time they sent Kambooj, Slalam and  Aquib  (up) as they wanted to transition Kambooj into Ind side they selected 2 other bowlers with v.low potential for that time.

 

Though I think this is a v.decent T20 side for the tournament, and on batting if they would have played that Aisa cup they would have Played Ind senior team in the Finals.

These are v.good t20 batters, they need to sort out nehal, he has habit of getting stuck.

Edited November 17, 2025 by tapandrun

[Lone Wolf]

27 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

Yash thakur too, he is tall

Yash is probably 5"8 not tall at all

[Suhaan]

56 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

Both Gurjapneet and Yash Thakur can't even get in IPL sides. How are they representing India?

 

Is our pace bowling cupboard so bare?

 

 

Yash isnt that bad,he does overuse slower ones 

He has the ability to crank it upto high 140s but chooses not to as if there's a written rule to bowl 5 slower ones in an over for him

Harshit too over does it and gets hit,they don't use their stock deliveries much,maybe they don't know which one is their stock ones due to so many experiments with the ball

Apart from this Yash(Harshit too) isn't fit either 

[tapandrun]

3 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Yash is probably 5"8 not tall at all

Ohh.. thought he was ~6

Edited November 17, 2025 by tapandrun

[rollingstoned]

10 hours ago, tapandrun said:

yes there is no one after siraj and bhumrah. 

 

they wasted last 4-5 years on -- mukesh/ avesh/ unadkat, tushar, saini etc...

this is the worst format to develop fast bowlers tbh, none of the basics will get developed. they might get ruined infact and pick up bad habits and struggle to maintain line-length. 

[Lone Wolf]

India is not winning against BD A in Semi final.  They look pretty decent especially the bowling attack.

 

Their spin attack is superior than Pak and our guys can't play half decent spin.